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bhamg 02-03-2012 11:49 PM

Propain - Can we just leave this minutiae crap out of these performance threads? Please let the participants, whether it be a fun run against another board member or a solo dyne run, enjoy their moment in the sun, IMHO. It reminds me of the crap that Mxx orchestrates to keep their name alive on this forum...something that both you and I have no patience for...the fun on being here and posting here can vanish in a hurry.

propain 02-03-2012 11:52 PM


Originally Posted by bhamg (Post 5037032)
Propain - Can we just leave this minutiae crap out of these performance threads? Please let the participants, whether it be a fun run against another board member or a solo dyne run, enjoy their moment in the sun, IMHO. It reminds me of the crap that Mxx orchestrates to keep their name alive on this forum...something that both you and I have no patience for...the fun on being here and posting here can vanish in a hurry.

You are probably right. I see your point. :y

bhamg 02-03-2012 11:57 PM

Yeah, I know you know where I'm coming from and that we're two peas out of the same pod so it's all good! Thanks for listening...

BK63amg 02-04-2012 12:40 AM

the real comedy in this whole 2 forum running thread is that had i pulled a car on Jon, nobody would even know about it (he certainly wouldnt have posted a video him losing and i wouldnt have cared enough to)...he pulls 1 car on my to 130 and it's on mbworld, bboost and youtube. :crazy:

seems par for the course though lol

ZephyrAMG 02-04-2012 03:33 AM

Nice runs. A car length is pretty significant. I didn't know Jon had a "back in the day" p30 which def translates to sitting lower and stiffer suspension. OE for the win...!

Jons95c36amg 02-04-2012 08:00 AM


Originally Posted by propain (Post 5037029)
I can tell by your 11.9. :D

Otherwise its the same reason why you finally removed your charcoals. To actually start winning some races. :rolf:

This is the reason why they miss you over there. In a not so good way.:rolf:

Jons95c36amg 02-04-2012 08:03 AM


Originally Posted by bhamg (Post 5037032)
Propain - Can we just leave this minutiae crap out of these performance threads? Please let the participants, whether it be a fun run against another board member or a solo dyne run, enjoy their moment in the sun, IMHO. It reminds me of the crap that Mxx orchestrates to keep their name alive on this forum...something that both you and I have no patience for...the fun on being here and posting here can vanish in a hurry.

+1

Jons95c36amg 02-04-2012 08:09 AM


Originally Posted by BK63amg (Post 5037086)
the real comedy in this whole 2 forum running thread is that had i pulled a car on Jon, nobody would even know about it (he certainly wouldnt have posted a video him losing and i wouldnt have cared enough to)...he pulls 1 car on my to 130 and it's on mbworld, bboost and youtube. :crazy:

seems par for the course though lol

I thought it was a good video. Comparing different tunes. I sent the video to sticky to post it. I never mentioned your name. Unfortunately it got out of hand. If it was Propain I wouldve rubbed it in.

Jons95c36amg 02-04-2012 08:19 AM


Originally Posted by ZephyrAMG (Post 5037203)
Nice runs. A car length is pretty significant. I didn't know Jon had a "back in the day" p30 which def translates to sitting lower and stiffer suspension. OE for the win...!

I believe all the tunes for the C63 are about equal. But not all cars are created equal. Which was post by Eurocharged on the dyno same day. Some were 15whp higher. This accounts for the engines being handmade.

propain 02-04-2012 08:26 AM


Originally Posted by Jons95c36amg (Post 5037306)
This is the reason why they miss you over there. In a not so good way.:rolf:

Who is "They"? Joe and about 2 other posters including yourself. Yes, Joe.. who was banned from here. LZH.. Who was banned from here. :rolf:

The only reason you got front page is because Joe thought it would get under my skin. A big miscalculation on his part. Also featuring a street race to 140 MPH on the front page of his "professional" website speaks volumes. Brilliant plan! :rolf:

khmergod 02-04-2012 09:31 AM


Originally Posted by propain (Post 5037009)
I believe the P30 sits lower than a standard C63 yes. The P31 does for sure. You have a racing suspension. You also weigh 60 pounds less. Not a wash. You definitely have the weight advantage and the suspension advantage. Even if it doesn't sit lower its still a stiffer racing suspension. Much better for high speeds runs.

I'm telling you, everyone needs to bring a 50lb bag of sand when they race you. That's the only way it will be even. LOL

Did you have your spare tire removed?

P31 is stoxk suspension. P30 sits lower than all other stock configs.

propain 02-04-2012 10:05 AM


Originally Posted by khmergod (Post 5037358)
P31 is stoxk suspension. P30 sits lower than all other stock configs.


Thanks! I thought the P31 included the suspension. :y

ZephyrAMG 02-04-2012 10:22 AM


Originally Posted by Jons95c36amg (Post 5037322)
I believe all the tunes for the C63 are about equal. But not all cars are created equal. Which was post by Eurocharged on the dyno same day. Some were 15whp higher. This accounts for the engines being handmade.

True. I would think that the tunes don't vary by a GIGANTIC difference, it may come down to weight, add ons, removals, and ultimately the driver. But OE has been slapping it down pretty good.

ZephyrAMG 02-04-2012 10:24 AM


Originally Posted by propain (Post 5037329)
Who is "They"? Joe and about 2 other posters including yourself. Yes, Joe.. who was banned from here. LZH.. Who was banned from here. :rolf:

The only reason you got front page is because Joe thought it would get under my skin. A big miscalculation on his part. Also featuring a street race to 140 MPH on the front page of his "professional" website speaks volumes. Brilliant plan! :rolf:

Ouch...bragging about public street racing = NOT GOOD. Didn't know LZH got banned...why?

ZephyrAMG 02-04-2012 10:25 AM


Originally Posted by propain (Post 5037380)
Thanks! I thought the P31 included the suspension. :y

P30 was the only car with the lowered stiffer suspension in the '08 release nicknamed the "bone crusher" or "bone breaker" because it was so stiff even for DD...

propain 02-04-2012 10:31 AM


Originally Posted by ZephyrAMG (Post 5037400)
Ouch...bragging about public street racing = NOT GOOD. Didn't know LZH got banned...why?


LZH got banned probably a year ago for being.... well.. for being LZH. :D

ZephyrAMG 02-04-2012 10:34 AM


Originally Posted by propain (Post 5037410)
LZH got banned probably a year ago for being.... well.. for being LZH. :D

Hahaha....I'm picking up what your putting down...:y

khmergod 02-04-2012 10:42 AM


Originally Posted by propain (Post 5037380)
Thanks! I thought the P31 included the suspension. :y

NP. We are all enthusiasts helping each other understand our beloved C63s. I've learned so much from this forum, more than any dealership or service department ever could teach me. The irony is that we often know more than salespersons and service advisors.

Jons95c36amg 02-04-2012 11:02 AM


Originally Posted by propain (Post 5037329)
Who is "They"? Joe and about 2 other posters including yourself. Yes, Joe.. who was banned from here. LZH.. Who was banned from here. :rolf:

The only reason you got front page is because Joe thought it would get under my skin. A big miscalculation on his part. Also featuring a street race to 140 MPH on the front page of his "professional" website speaks volumes. Brilliant plan! :rolf:

Well its working for sticky. Alot of hits. Even without you.:)

Jons95c36amg 02-04-2012 11:07 AM


Originally Posted by ZephyrAMG (Post 5037403)
P30 was the only car with the lowered stiffer suspension in the '08 release nicknamed the "bone crusher" or "bone breaker" because it was so stiff even for DD...

Thats why I got All Season tires. Which softens the ride a little.

Jons95c36amg 02-04-2012 11:09 AM


Originally Posted by ZephyrAMG (Post 5037400)
Ouch...bragging about public street racing = NOT GOOD. Didn't know LZH got banned...why?

Nobody was bragging about anything. Just a video comparison.

dodger63 02-04-2012 12:55 PM


Originally Posted by Jons95c36amg (Post 5037019)
You joking? Spare removed?:rolf: LSD adds lbs. Means its a wash for lighter rotors. Also his car sits lower-front lip. Lower than any C63 stock.

Where did you get your info? You think the stock open diff weighs less then the stock LSD? Did you weigh both can you please show some proof, also lighter rotors = rotational mass and they are in the front of the car which should help weight transfer in acceleration.. Also every 100lbs in this car equals 1/10 in the 1/4 mile that's prob about a 1/2 a car length at 110-120..

dodger63 02-04-2012 01:04 PM


Originally Posted by BK63amg (Post 5037086)
the real comedy in this whole 2 forum running thread is that had i pulled a car on Jon, nobody would even know about it (he certainly wouldnt have posted a video him losing and i wouldnt have cared enough to)...he pulls 1 car on my to 130 and it's on mbworld, bboost and youtube. :crazy:

seems par for the course though lol

Bk prior to this run how many practice runs have you done lets say 60-130 to find the sweet spots in the trans..

My suggestion for anyone listening is to not race Jon and also don't street race.

SALES@OETUNING 02-04-2012 03:19 PM

Nice Driving Jon!

BK63amg 02-04-2012 04:57 PM


Originally Posted by dodger63 (Post 5037576)
Bk prior to this run how many practice runs have you done lets say 60-130 to find the sweet spots in the trans..

My suggestion for anyone listening is to not race Jon and also don't street race.

None really - this "race" was pretty spontaneous. Prior to this run, I had done three 60-130 a pulls a few months ago.


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