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Valvestud 11-03-2017 01:00 PM


Originally Posted by MercedesDad (Post 7302934)
Hey guys,

60,000 miles and my ML63 has run like a top in my four year ownership. Not even a hiccup; ever. Even after killing Maseratis on the Interstate or towing heavy vintage AMG's on 2K mile trips.

That said, I have a couple extra bucks in my pocket and I am considering a head bolt upgrade for my own piece of mind. My idea is to keep my beast for many more years to come.

How do I know if my engine is in the potentially affected range? VIN is 4JGBB7HB8AA620104

Thank you and please keep up this informative thread.

All 2010 and older and some early 2011s are affected.

victoryimminent 11-17-2017 08:45 AM

Hey there. I've been lurking for a bit and finally decided to get serious about picking up an E63 AMG. The car I'm looking at has a VIN of WDDHF7HB8BA366727. Would I please be able to see if it is affected by the head bolt issue? Thanks!

Valvestud 11-17-2017 08:47 AM

Not affected..

Ed954 11-20-2017 03:52 PM

Hey everyone,
considering buying another mercedes. It's a W164 with m156 engine. I did record some videos at dealership. Do you hear the ticking sound or it's me just being paranoid about the header bolts/lifters issue?

Does this engine sound OK?



Thanks in advance!

hachiroku 11-20-2017 04:16 PM

that engine sounds good with no ticking. also sounds low miles.

kamalpatel12448 11-22-2017 03:39 PM

Don't let paranoia set in, there are more engines with miles and no issues than engines with issues. If you are really following your ear on this to check, cold starts after they are sitting for a few days are a better test on ticking. Good luck and enjoy it without concerns.

jumborx 11-01-2018 11:53 PM

So I had the headbolts replaced as a preventative bolt replacement. C63 2010 model with 100,000km well maintained car. The 20 bolts were all fine, there were no cracks, no real pitting in the bolts the photos look bad the bolts were totally fine.
Only things worth noting were the 5 of the bolts from the 10 on each head had stretched the very slightest as shown in the photo below, also
when drying the bolts to photograph them there was quite a bit of crud on the surface of the bolts and bolt threads meaning some would be left in the head from removing the bolts so when your pulling them out dont muck them in and out much and clean out the head as best you can.




https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...821e5750ce.jpg
1 side in a line showing all bolts are straight from the bold head also
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...ae682033ce.jpg
From 1 head side there were 5 headbolts that were shorter and 5 headbolts that were stretched by a tiny bit as shown in the gap in the photo
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...86208756fc.jpg
Photo of headbolts they were fine just had a bit of crud
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...6ce5500d97.jpg
Bolts were in good condition. the staining is on the surface only
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...cdb56116f4.jpg
Another image of 5 other bolts from the 20 replaced
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...287db8baa2.jpg
Photo of other bolts
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...900baa8ef5.jpg
Photo of the crud that came of the bolts onto a white cloth just drying the bolts not cleaning them.

Gabrielc714 03-30-2022 01:56 PM

Old thread I know sorry
 

Originally Posted by Valvestud (Post 7314039)
Not affected..

can you help me out on checking mine. Thank you WDBUF77X88B274041

Valvestud 03-30-2022 02:50 PM


Originally Posted by Gabrielc714 (Post 8537936)
can you help me out on checking mine. Thank you WDBUF77X88B274041

Any amount of checking on the forum would have told you that you have the old bolts. You have one of the oldest engines still out there.

Tafira 03-30-2023 12:25 PM


Originally Posted by MercedesDad (Post 7302934)
Hey guys,

60,000 miles and my ML63 has run like a top in my four year ownership. Not even a hiccup; ever. Even after killing Maseratis on the Interstate or towing heavy vintage AMG's on 2K mile trips.

That said, I have a couple extra bucks in my pocket and I am considering a head bolt upgrade for my own piece of mind. My idea is to keep my beast for many more years to come.

How do I know if my engine is in the potentially affected range? VIN is 4JGBB7HB8AA620104

Thank you and please keep up this informative thread.

.

Tafira 03-30-2023 12:51 PM

C 63 Amg. Problem
 

Originally Posted by Mort (Post 6538610)
I have not heard of any FL (LCI) cars with head bolt issues. It is not unusual to have the coolant go down a little over time. It happened to our R Class diesel quite a few times and to my 2010 C63 a couple of times with no other issues.

I always recommend adding a 50/50 mix of distilled water and MB coolant in the same colour that is in your cooling system. This will maintain the properties of the OEM coolant in your engine which is 240,000 km or 15 years. If you add straight water (distilled or not) or other brands of coolant this coolant change interval is no longer valid and the coolant should be changed much sooner.

Hello is new to the site.
Should buy c 63 amg 204 487 hkr

model 2014.

I read about the engine problem here.

Does anyone know if this also applies to the 2014 model?

duuder 03-30-2023 02:29 PM

no, definitely not!


Originally Posted by Tafira (Post 8750090)
Hello is new to the site.
Should buy c 63 amg 204 487 hkr

model 2014.

I read about the engine problem here.

Does anyone know if this also applies to the 2014 model?


marylandspotter 11-26-2023 04:10 PM

Question on my C63 W204
 

Originally Posted by Valvestud (Post 5495076)
Your engine number is 156985 60 052223. It is in the affected group.

Regards,

Joe


Hey! I believe i am the new owner of this exact car and i am doing a history report on it in fact, if you could please give me AS MUCH information on my exact car as possible i would really appreciate it!!

VIN: WDDGF7HB7AF420063
you provided: 156985 60 052223

Kind regards,
Eric.

Valvestud 11-26-2023 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by marylandspotter (Post 8883074)
Hey! I believe i am the new owner of this exact car and i am doing a history report on it in fact, if you could please give me AS MUCH information on my exact car as possible i would really appreciate it!!

VIN: WDDGF7HB7AF420063
you provided: 156985 60 052223

Kind regards,
Eric.

Datacard attached. No LSD or P30 performance package.

Regards,
Joe

marylandspotter 11-26-2023 06:27 PM

Thank you!! Life saver!! Is there any way to find the day it was produced? I only see the day shipped?

Thank you so much again!
Eric

Valvestud 11-27-2023 11:36 AM


Originally Posted by marylandspotter (Post 8883131)
Thank you!! Life saver!! Is there any way to find the day it was produced? I only see the day shipped?

Thank you so much again!
Eric

Nope.

Tonytho 12-25-2023 04:14 PM

2008 cl63 mixing oil with coolant
 
Hello to everyone!

I’ve 2008 Cl 63 with m156 engine, this thing is mixing oil in coolant, new engine oil cooler radiator(dealer), no white smoke no misfires no overheating nothing drives perfectly fine. I’m excluding headbolt failure as I’ve no white smoke.. what could be a problem? Where else should we take a look to find a reason?
Any idea will be appreciated!


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