2015 W205 C63: articles, facts, specifications. Rumors: 5.5L V8 TT, M157, 4matic, DCT
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I'm sold if its a 4.0TT(450-480HP), AWD, DCT and 2-300lbs lighter. Then again the early renderings and spy pics don't make the W205 look so hot. Time will tell!
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But, if it's a 5.5 liter, it will be the ULTIMATE daily driver.
More displacement, means more low end torque and more power on pump gas.
I'm dying for a 5.5L TT.
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I think it almost certain that the new AMG C will not get the 5.5TT. Benz won't make the same mistake twice and offer the same motor thats in the $60K C as the $150K S AMG
There will be a clear delineation. You want big power.....you pay $90K+ and get the 5.5TT in the E/CLS/S/S Coupe/GL/G
You want quick agile performer....you pay $60K+ and get the 4.0TT
Everything in this thread is specualtion, except for some of the spy shots
There will be a clear delineation. You want big power.....you pay $90K+ and get the 5.5TT in the E/CLS/S/S Coupe/GL/G
You want quick agile performer....you pay $60K+ and get the 4.0TT
Everything in this thread is specualtion, except for some of the spy shots
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Don't forget that displacement is not directly related to weight. As far as I'm concerned, they can use the same exact block as the 5.5L TT and just destroke it to 4.8-5.0L. That will create differentiation.
Either way, we're probably looking at a V8TT, which is not going to disappoint. I just hope that they retain the drivability of the M156 in the new drivetrain.
Either way, we're probably looking at a V8TT, which is not going to disappoint. I just hope that they retain the drivability of the M156 in the new drivetrain.
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Regardless what the next generation C class AMG engine is going to have. It won't be a light weight. It will still be pushing 4k lbs. I would like this as a daily driver though.
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What I am liking and is certain is the DCT. Thats big news. Read an interview just yesterday however stating the c63 eill be kept as a RWD vehicle for now. They feel the c63 has the purpose of being a fun car and that at this time it will remain rwd. I have no objection to that.
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Weight will be the biggest issue and therefore a smaller motor will be paramount (no AWD also helps weight). I am all for a real M3 fighter with a real DCT (that doesn't overheat). The current C63 is almost there. It can dominate the M3 on fast tracks, but is still not as agile ultimately. I've had and tracked both.
4.0 V8 TT will have tons of torque don't need a 5.5 for that Look at the 335i or other highly boosted turbo motors including the A45. I agree with the comments here --while all is speculation-- that MB will not offer the big motor in the C AMG anymore. This is it's main performance mass seller and it will want it to be competitive while offering the larger motor with its broader power band in a higher model.
4.0 V8 TT will have tons of torque don't need a 5.5 for that Look at the 335i or other highly boosted turbo motors including the A45. I agree with the comments here --while all is speculation-- that MB will not offer the big motor in the C AMG anymore. This is it's main performance mass seller and it will want it to be competitive while offering the larger motor with its broader power band in a higher model.
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With their most recent 2.0T pushing 350 ponies it should be relatively easy for them to achieve 450 HP with a V6 3.0T. I'm hoping they will keep the V8 in there but I'm just not seeing it in this age of downsizing.
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Mercedes will use what is most cost effective. They will also want a clear delineation between the model ranges. We can argue (hell, that is what the internet was desigend for anyways, oh and ****) all day long about displacement, turbos, blah blah. In that case, I would like MB to drop one of those 2.4L F1 V8's into any one of our cars :P
Besides, rules for 2014 moved to 1.6 or 1.8L V6 (I cannot remember which and I am too lazy to search the intarwebs). Which means, they will be pouring money into making V6's more powerful, the only downside, V6 just does not make the same noise a V8 makes.
Besides, rules for 2014 moved to 1.6 or 1.8L V6 (I cannot remember which and I am too lazy to search the intarwebs). Which means, they will be pouring money into making V6's more powerful, the only downside, V6 just does not make the same noise a V8 makes.
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+1 They would be silly not to (which means it won't happen). The big motor in the little car is what made the C63 great. How many of you would have bought a C63 if it kept the 355hp 5.5L that the SLK had until recently? I wouldn't have.
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+1 on that. It's the only car that's a blast to drive in the snow. Pretty much everything else that's 4WD will give you the grip and utility but nowhere near the fun (well, maybe a Ferrari FF but I haven't driven one of those yet).
And, -1 on the CTS-V. Was briefly looking at it before I bought the Benz. It is absolutely crude in comparison in every respect.
And, -1 on the CTS-V. Was briefly looking at it before I bought the Benz. It is absolutely crude in comparison in every respect.
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Unlikely. Mercedes will not make a C-class car with the same engine and rated power as the comparable E-class (in this case, the E63). At any rate, if it's a forced induction engine (which it will be) and in particular a turbo instead of a supercharger, it will be relatively easy to get extra power out of it -- essentially all you have to do is turn up the boost pressure.
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Mercedes will use what is most cost effective. They will also want a clear delineation between the model ranges. We can argue (hell, that is what the internet was desigend for anyways, oh and ****) all day long about displacement, turbos, blah blah. In that case, I would like MB to drop one of those 2.4L F1 V8's into any one of our cars :P
Besides, rules for 2014 moved to 1.6 or 1.8L V6 (I cannot remember which and I am too lazy to search the intarwebs). Which means, they will be pouring money into making V6's more powerful, the only downside, V6 just does not make the same noise a V8 makes.
Besides, rules for 2014 moved to 1.6 or 1.8L V6 (I cannot remember which and I am too lazy to search the intarwebs). Which means, they will be pouring money into making V6's more powerful, the only downside, V6 just does not make the same noise a V8 makes.
Somehow, I think that a blown V6 with an 8-speed MCT (unrelated to the F1 engines, of course) is what we can expect to see in the new AMG C.
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I find that unlikely only because every article pertaining to the 2025 c63 discusses the 5.5L or the new "in the works" 4.0L v8. A DCT is already known, theyve stated. Rwd has also been stated, while many amg's will offer awd in the future, the c63 was said to not be one of them. I dont think theyre shooting for the fastest quarter mile so awd is not necessary.
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Weight will be the biggest issue and therefore a smaller motor will be paramount (no AWD also helps weight). I am all for a real M3 fighter with a real DCT (that doesn't overheat). The current C63 is almost there. It can dominate the M3 on fast tracks, but is still not as agile ultimately. I've had and tracked both.
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I find that unlikely only because every article pertaining to the 2025 c63 discusses the 5.5L or the new "in the works" 4.0L v8. A DCT is already known, theyve stated. Rwd has also been stated, while many amg's will offer awd in the future, the c63 was said to not be one of them. I dont think theyre shooting for the fastest quarter mile so awd is not necessary.
On the other hand, Diablios has been wrong on everything.
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I find that unlikely only because every article pertaining to the 2025 c63 discusses the 5.5L or the new "in the works" 4.0L v8. A DCT is already known, theyve stated. Rwd has also been stated, while many amg's will offer awd in the future, the c63 was said to not be one of them. I dont think theyre shooting for the fastest quarter mile so awd is not necessary.
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I think it almost certain that the new AMG C will not get the 5.5TT. Benz won't make the same mistake twice and offer the same motor thats in the $60K C as the $150K S AMG
There will be a clear delineation. You want big power.....you pay $90K+ and get the 5.5TT in the E/CLS/S/S Coupe/GL/G
You want quick agile performer....you pay $60K+ and get the 4.0TT
Everything in this thread is specualtion, except for some of the spy shots
There will be a clear delineation. You want big power.....you pay $90K+ and get the 5.5TT in the E/CLS/S/S Coupe/GL/G
You want quick agile performer....you pay $60K+ and get the 4.0TT
Everything in this thread is specualtion, except for some of the spy shots
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From the July '13 U.K. edition of Car magazine, p. 31:
"....The flagship C63 AMG will use a 462 bhp 4.0 litre V-8 - a jump of 5 bhp - and there'll be a Black Series offering 485 bhp. The platform is also engineered for the new nine-speed automatic, but most models at launch will use the 7G-tronic instead."
"....The flagship C63 AMG will use a 462 bhp 4.0 litre V-8 - a jump of 5 bhp - and there'll be a Black Series offering 485 bhp. The platform is also engineered for the new nine-speed automatic, but most models at launch will use the 7G-tronic instead."
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The publications are also speculating. The only people who know what is going to happen, are inside the offices of Mercedes/AMG and they are not talking, yet.
