2014 507 Sedan or 2015 C63?
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2014 507 Sedan or 2015 C63?
Faced with the decision and have a good offer on a new '14 507 sedan.
Will I feel disappointed as soon as I see the '15? I'm sure the tuning potential will be unreal on the '15, but I don't typically modify my daily driver.
Currently I have an '11 sedan, and before that had an '09. I'm thinking that if I want to keep the C63 for the next few decades as a "collector's car", the 507 is the way to go. I don't foresee the value of the 507 appreciating, in fact quite the opposite, but I think it could be a neat car to still have 20-30 years from now.
Thoughts? Oh, and may I ask what purchase or 36 mo lease offers people have been receiving on a 507?
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Will I feel disappointed as soon as I see the '15? I'm sure the tuning potential will be unreal on the '15, but I don't typically modify my daily driver.
Currently I have an '11 sedan, and before that had an '09. I'm thinking that if I want to keep the C63 for the next few decades as a "collector's car", the 507 is the way to go. I don't foresee the value of the 507 appreciating, in fact quite the opposite, but I think it could be a neat car to still have 20-30 years from now.
Thoughts? Oh, and may I ask what purchase or 36 mo lease offers people have been receiving on a 507?
Thank you
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"If you wanna be one of those guys that buys the last year model right before the newer, better, faster comes out right after, then start rehearsing the justifications in your head as to why you didn't wait. Because it will be haunting you every time that 2015 pulls beside you and walks away.
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A member (callmiro) said this on a different thread, i agree with him.
Just sayin….."
A member (callmiro) said this on a different thread, i agree with him.
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"If you wanna be one of those guys that buys the last year model right before the newer, better, faster comes out right after, then start rehearsing the justifications in your head as to why you didn't wait. Because it will be haunting you every time that 2015 pulls beside you and walks away.
Just sayin….."
A member (callmiro) said this on a different thread, i agree with him.
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Really? Well... what if you don't want to be a beta-tester for an unproven product? What if you like the instant low-RPM torque that only a large-displacement N/A engine can provide? What if (like me) you think the new 2015 C looks fugly?
If the "who walks who" mentality is what matters the most in a car because that's how you measure the length of your schlort, then by all means wait and get the new one. If on the other hand you want a new car now and couldn't give a rats' **** if the new one has 17.6 more hp than the current model, buy the car now and watch the guy who is waiting for the new one turn green every time your 2014 pulls beside his GLK. Or even better, lease or finance it now and trade it in in three years when the new one has been sorted out.
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Really? Well... what if you don't want to be a beta-tester for an unproven product? What if you like the instant low-RPM torque that only a large-displacement N/A engine can provide? What if (like me) you think the new 2015 C looks fugly?
If the "who walks who" mentality is what matters the most in a car because that's how you measure the length of your schlort, then by all means wait and get the new one. If on the other hand you want a new car now and couldn't give a rats' **** if the new one has 17.6 more hp than the current model, buy the car now and watch the guy who is waiting for the new one turn green every time your 2014 pulls beside his GLK. Or even better, lease or finance it now and trade it in in three years when the new one has been sorted out.
If the "who walks who" mentality is what matters the most in a car because that's how you measure the length of your schlort, then by all means wait and get the new one. If on the other hand you want a new car now and couldn't give a rats' **** if the new one has 17.6 more hp than the current model, buy the car now and watch the guy who is waiting for the new one turn green every time your 2014 pulls beside his GLK. Or even better, lease or finance it now and trade it in in three years when the new one has been sorted out.
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I'd get the 2014. In fact... I did. I didn't go the 507 route, but I bought the "regular" AMG for the fact that the big NA V8's time is numbered and I wanted to get one of the last great examples before they are gone. I like the "lease now and upgrade later if you want to" idea mentioned before if you are not sure. I also agree that 1st year models are a little bit of a gamble as far as quality, and the last year of a model should have sorted out most of the problems already.
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don't be so sensitive.
I'd get the 2014. In fact... I did. I didn't go the 507 route, but I bought the "regular" AMG for the fact that the big NA V8's time is numbered and I wanted to get one of the last great examples before they are gone. I like the "lease now and upgrade later if you want to" idea mentioned before if you are not sure. I also agree that 1st year models are a little bit of a gamble as far as quality, and the last year of a model should have sorted out most of the problems already.
Good luck.
I'd get the 2014. In fact... I did. I didn't go the 507 route, but I bought the "regular" AMG for the fact that the big NA V8's time is numbered and I wanted to get one of the last great examples before they are gone. I like the "lease now and upgrade later if you want to" idea mentioned before if you are not sure. I also agree that 1st year models are a little bit of a gamble as far as quality, and the last year of a model should have sorted out most of the problems already.
Good luck.
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I never attacked anybody. I merely disagreed with the statement you posted about how those that have bought a current generation car are undoubtedly going to be haunted by their bad decision at the sight of a newer model which may or may not have marginally more power. If that would make you feel regret about your decision, you have self-esteem issues you need to work on.
It was neither an attack nor heated in any way. You need to turn down the sensitivity button a bit.
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Anyway, back to the topic which seems to have derailed slightly:
I think this is more a matter of how you feel rather than what's smart. Basically there is no good nor bad decision. If you take the 507, you get a great 6.2 NA limited edition car. If you wait however, you get a faster car with a more luxurious feel in it. Honestly i would wait. In the end the old model suffers in terms of value if it's not a black series, and sooner or later you're still gonna want the new one. Problem is that you will get it soonest late this year. if we're lucky. Which we usually are not. New model + 1 year = AMG. I probably did not help, but still my 2 cents on the question
I think this is more a matter of how you feel rather than what's smart. Basically there is no good nor bad decision. If you take the 507, you get a great 6.2 NA limited edition car. If you wait however, you get a faster car with a more luxurious feel in it. Honestly i would wait. In the end the old model suffers in terms of value if it's not a black series, and sooner or later you're still gonna want the new one. Problem is that you will get it soonest late this year. if we're lucky. Which we usually are not. New model + 1 year = AMG. I probably did not help, but still my 2 cents on the question
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I appreciate the responses, and the passion behind them. Internally I am placing a lot of emphasis on the thought that maybe I will want to keep the 507 for a few decades. I have an E39 M5 that falls into that category. I never intend to sell the M5 because it was a "last of its kind" in my mind, and I kind of feel the same way about the C63. The 507 is a tweaked version of a car that was built with no concern about fuel economy, and knowing that plus the displacement of the engine brings me joy. I don't predict any value appreciation of the car in the next 30-40 years, and if it does it will be after the CLK black series, SLR, etc... all of which have incurred significant depreciation. I just want a car that I can go out to in a decade or two, turn on and remember the good times I had with it and know there is nothing like it sold new anymore. Lower displacement and forced induction is likely here to stay, and while I think launch control + AWD + 600+ HP is fun, I think that is here to stay too and will be available when I look for the next daily driver. I may have just talked myself into going the 507 route.
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I appreciate the responses, and the passion behind them. Internally I am placing a lot of emphasis on the thought that maybe I will want to keep the 507 for a few decades. I have an E39 M5 that falls into that category. I never intend to sell the M5 because it was a "last of its kind" in my mind, and I kind of feel the same way about the C63. The 507 is a tweaked version of a car that was built with no concern about fuel economy, and knowing that plus the displacement of the engine brings me joy. I don't predict any value appreciation of the car in the next 30-40 years, and if it does it will be after the CLK black series, SLR, etc... all of which have incurred significant depreciation. I just want a car that I can go out to in a decade or two, turn on and remember the good times I had with it and know there is nothing like it sold new anymore. Lower displacement and forced induction is likely here to stay, and while I think launch control + AWD + 600+ HP is fun, I think that is here to stay too and will be available when I look for the next daily driver. I may have just talked myself into going the 507 route.
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You are looking at almost a year away for the new C63, and they wont have any discounts for many months after, so will pay a premium.
I say go enjoy a car now. Plan for the next C63 in about 2 years once good deals can be had.
I say go enjoy a car now. Plan for the next C63 in about 2 years once good deals can be had.
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I was trying to make the same decision, 2014 or 2015. I really didn't care for the look of the interior of the 2015s... but what sold me was getting the last of the 6.2 and the sound they make. I know the new one will sound good, but I love how my 507 sounds.
Really it comes down to what you want... but as the previous poster said be prepared to pay a premium for the 2015 when it comes out.
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Really it comes down to what you want... but as the previous poster said be prepared to pay a premium for the 2015 when it comes out.
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I think you should get the 507.
I was looking at a similar dilemma. I have a 2003 e39 that I love but it's time to move on. I bought the BMW because it's one of the greatest of all times. I want to replace it with a similarly classic car that has proven itself. After a ton of research I decided on a C63. I don't think I'll ever regret the decision.
I don't want or need the latest or greatest. I thought about waiting for the 2015 but it's an unknown at this point. I'd rather have something tried and true. That's just me. I think the c63 may match the e39 some day as a classic. I plan on driving my c63 for a decade, during which time many cars will come and go. It won't bother me one bit because I'll be happy with the car I bought.
Another factor I took into consideration is the the 2015 will be built in the US. I know there is some discussion on this but I don't trust the quality control in the US plants. The AMG engine will still be built in Germany and then shipped to the US for assembly.
I was looking at a similar dilemma. I have a 2003 e39 that I love but it's time to move on. I bought the BMW because it's one of the greatest of all times. I want to replace it with a similarly classic car that has proven itself. After a ton of research I decided on a C63. I don't think I'll ever regret the decision.
I don't want or need the latest or greatest. I thought about waiting for the 2015 but it's an unknown at this point. I'd rather have something tried and true. That's just me. I think the c63 may match the e39 some day as a classic. I plan on driving my c63 for a decade, during which time many cars will come and go. It won't bother me one bit because I'll be happy with the car I bought.
Another factor I took into consideration is the the 2015 will be built in the US. I know there is some discussion on this but I don't trust the quality control in the US plants. The AMG engine will still be built in Germany and then shipped to the US for assembly.
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I never attacked anybody. I merely disagreed with the statement you posted about how those that have bought a current generation car are undoubtedly going to be haunted by their bad decision at the sight of a newer model which may or may not have marginally more power. If that would make you feel regret about your decision, you have self-esteem issues you need to work on.
It was neither an attack nor heated in any way. You need to turn down the sensitivity button a bit.
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It was neither an attack nor heated in any way. You need to turn down the sensitivity button a bit.
Cheers,
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I appreciate the responses, and the passion behind them. Internally I am placing a lot of emphasis on the thought that maybe I will want to keep the 507 for a few decades. I have an E39 M5 that falls into that category. I never intend to sell the M5 because it was a "last of its kind" in my mind, and I kind of feel the same way about the C63. The 507 is a tweaked version of a car that was built with no concern about fuel economy, and knowing that plus the displacement of the engine brings me joy. I don't predict any value appreciation of the car in the next 30-40 years, and if it does it will be after the CLK black series, SLR, etc... all of which have incurred significant depreciation. I just want a car that I can go out to in a decade or two, turn on and remember the good times I had with it and know there is nothing like it sold new anymore. Lower displacement and forced induction is likely here to stay, and while I think launch control + AWD + 600+ HP is fun, I think that is here to stay too and will be available when I look for the next daily driver. I may have just talked myself into going the 507 route.
I'll give you another example. Last spring, I traded in a completely perfect Z06 (normally aspirated V8 with 7.0 liters of displacement) for a ZR1 (Supercharged 6.2 liter). It's my biggest regret! I'm not making this same mistake/regret with my new Benz.
I look at it like this. If I lived in Germany, where I could take advantage of the slight performance difference, then I'd go with FI. Likewise, if I was just (1/4 mile) drag racing. I'm not.
Living in the U.S, with these ridiculous speed limits, I'll take big normally aspirated engines, with smooth and deep torque curves, all day long. The glorious sound of a big naturally aspirated V8 is the icing on the cake.
GL/Cheers,
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