vote46

Hello y'all, i'm about the pull the trigger on a c63, coming from an e46 m3 zcp supercharged SMG, it was time to me to change for something a bit different and the e92 doesn't appeal me...

I really appreciated de competition package on my M3 and I was wondering if the P31 worth the extra money. I have spotted a P31 and a regular one, the difference in pricing is something around 7k, both have the same options except the PP and no one has an LSD... I also spotted a P30 with more mileage, but LSD.

By any chance anyone can give me their impressions/comparaisons in both transmissions?

whoover

By both transmissions, I assume you mean the old torque convertor box through 2011 versus the MCT box starting 2012? If so, the later one is vastly improved in my opinion.

I'd keep looking. You want the LSD and you want a face-lift (2012) model for the tranny and other stuff. That way you also avoid the weak early head bolts that can ruin your day.

The P31 is nice if you're not a major modder. The better and lighter brakes are worth the price of admission in my opinion, but brakes can be upgraded. The engine is definitely a little stronger, but again if you're going to tune it that's not that big a deal. Same with the increased max speed. 155 is so boring but a tune can fix that.

Exhibit13

As someone who just purchased a c63 I would say my answer is it depends on your budget. Personally after looking at the differences in features between the model years I wanted a 2010 or higher. Also because I bought a 2010 I was still able to add the MB warranty (though I had to jump through hoops to be able to buy it, long story).


The 2012+ has a better transmission but still no where near as good as the BMW transmissions. But I stayed at 2010 because the price increase between a 2010 and a 2012 was more than I felt it was worth for the better transmission and I personally like the look of the prefacelift c63 better than the facelift c63.


As for the p31 or not I got a great deal on a p31 so it was worth it, if you can find a good price on a p31 it is worth the cost. And I would do the LSD for sure. that's my .02

kb24forlife24

If you have the extra money, I'd wait for the W205 C63, unless you're craving for that M156 engine.

Exhibit13

As bad as AMG's depreciate I would not agree. If you want a 2015 wait till 2017 or 2018 and pick one up with 35k miles on it for 45% off MSRP.

alexmtl

Doesn't Performance package include LSD ? I know in Canada we have the LSD in the P31 package..
I believe LSD is a must. MCT is probably a very nice to have too.

Exhibit13

As crazy as it may sound, in the USA it was an option on top of the p31. Yep a totally separate money grab!

whoover

LSD but not engine mods was part of P30. Engine mods but not LSD was part of P31 (and 507). Think both of those are true for Canada as well as US.

Mort

In Canada that was true for 2010 and the LSD was an optional extra ($2400) on top of or separate from the P31. I believe from 2011 on the LSD was included in the P31 (APX) package in Canada.

C63KES

Question for Exhibit13 and anyone else:
I recently bought a 2011 C-63, with 15,000 miles, in CA, still has manufacturers warranty until November of 2014.

I spoke to the local dealership, and they stated that I could not get the Mercedes-Benz extended warranty. Do you mind telling me how were able to obtain the extended warranty? Thank you very much.

You can either send me pm, or post this as a thread for the benefit of other forum members if you don't mind sharing the info

LFM_Vancouver

From what I was told you have to be the original owner to get the MB extended warranty. You have to go for a pre warranty expiration inspection at your cost to see if you qualify for the warranty. You can purchase 3rd party extended warranty if you are not the original owner. I priced it out and the 3rd party have way more options and better pricing.

Spearsba

I bought my 2011 C63 in January 2014. I bought it CPO during a CPO special. They extended the warranty two extra years with unlimited mileage, So my EW goes out to October 2016. They tried to sell me two more years of unlimited mileage EW for about $4500. I can still purchse it, but will now have a 15% premium added becasue I did not but at time of car purchase.

So I think the key to getting the EW is buying CPO from a MB dealer. I know they have a CPO special on now. However, with the CPO special on AMGs you don't get the two years of prepaid maintenance. My dealer messed up and promised it to me. They later tried to recind, but I made them stick to the offier in writing.

Decame

As long as the original warranty has not expired you are eligible to purchase an extended warranty. July of last year I purchased a used 2010 C63 from a local used car dealer. The original warranty expired in September of 2010. About two weeks prior to the expiration of the original warranty I purchased a 3 year 75K miles extended warranty from an out of state Benz dealer. You must shop around as prices are all over the place. My local Benz dealer wanted $5K but I got one for $2.5K. Hope it helps

m a x i m u s

ELW pricing and eligibility are all over the map. i would just call around to various dealerships until you find one that will sell you one. seems like the minimum requirement is that the original factory warranty is still in play.

(btw, i was still under original warranty and got an ELW as a second owner, no inspection).

whoover

I really hate having to dicker for the extended warranty, but you do. I keep cars a long time so always get the 3-year extension when I buy the car new. Same drill with this C63 last month. First they give me a line that MB insists on the set price for the warranty. So I had them reduce the sales price of the car, after it was settled, to reduce the warranty price. After all that, the finance manager asks me if I have a Costco card. That turned out to be worth another $1,000+ off the warranty cost "because we demo our cars in their warehouses." It's like buying from a Persian rug merchant.

On second thought, it's kind of fun. My wife just sits there looking at her shoes but guys eat this stuff up.

m a x i m u s

lol. strange, when i bought a previous AMG, the dealership actually took the negotiated price reduction out of the warranty price, not the car price. these guys do whatever they want, which, as you say, has it's advantages.

roadtalontsi

i personally prefer the older torque converter transmission over the mct. The mct is jerky in parking lots and not always consistent with throttle inputs at take offs in comparison to the torque converter. Ya it shifts a little snappier but eventually the clutch packs will wear out. not to mention the launch control in it is useless. I'd personally shoot for a 2011. I like the older interior better with the flip out screen. It's all personal preference though, c63's hold up really well as long as no dumbasses have been attempting to maintain them

whoover

My transmission is totally smooth, even in S or S+. In C (starting in 2), you can't feel the shift at all. Maybe early MCTs were jerky but not any longer.

roadtalontsi

give it a few years