carlssoncclass

The car drive like a beast and the driveshaft still working perfectly fine.
I do recommend this mod if you can accept the price tag because it is a bit expensive.

carlssoncclass

not at all, cause below the drive shaft we still have the exhaust.

blindfold

was just bored to browse the weistec website and saw this new driveshaft and transmission fluid pan, i was surprised to see two new pieces even though it seems its been out for an year. Anyways, I have an acpt CF driveshaft on my powerless brz, and it allowed the engine to rev faster, would this make a difference on performance figures, i am not sure but it sure did make the driving experience more enjoyable.

Now, onto c63 application, since brz does not make much torque versus a very torquey V8, would the difference be not as significant with OEM piece versus CF one? I am told this is similar to a light weight flywheel, it's just the weight is removed on the transmission side instead of the engine side where the flywheel is, so it allows for easier revs.

Hope to see some feedback if any others have installed this, especially coupled with a tune and long headers if there is such a car, thanks.

Vladds

I am bringing this thread back with two questions:
1. Is the weistech shaft the same as the driveshop shaft? Maybe both made by a third party? (They look very similar)
2. I am reading in a different thread that for the CLK, in order to install this, not only the center bearing has to come off, but the mounting point welded to the chassis have to be cut too, so this is a no return type thing.
I am hoping that the OP will post what he did with this.


I have run two carbon driveshafts in my Subaru to date.

BLKROKT

I only see CLK driveshafts and axles on the DSS website? They used to have C63 axles, but I don't see them anymore. Will they still make them, and how did the price compare?

Vladds

I looked at retailers, not at the manufacturer site.
But the DSS for C63 was $1600, for my Subaru the ACPT brand was $1200.
I am looking at pictures of the C63 weistech shaft and DSS and they seem to be the same unit with different stickers.
I see the Weistech at $2990

Honestly, at that type of price $2990, I think the OEM AMG GT carbon driveshaft may become a competitor.
I can't bring up the GT in my Xentry software or I would have checked the OEM price a long time ago.
But strangely the AMG GT can't be brought up as a valid model in part sites either, or maybe I'm doing something wrong. What was the first year of the GT?

BLKROKT

I'd trust anything that DSS sells as a quality item. And at 1/2 price of the Weistec one it sounds too good to pass up.

Doubt that the GT driveshaft would bolt right up, geometry is just way different.

Can you please provide a link for where you're seeing the DSS W204 C63 carbon driveshaft? I'd like to have a look thanks.

Vladds

Ok, bare with me, I'm at work and subject to all kinds of limitations.
If you Google I see
Horsepower freaks model number MBSH-C63-C
$1699.99
I see vividracing same price
Same model number.
Now when you look at the picture, it looks very different that the Weistech.
But when you search installation on this forum, the CLK 63 comes up in a thread called carbon driveshaft from 2013.
Now I think the picture at vivid and horsepower freaks is a generic picture while the one on the CLK forum is the actual one. And the actual one looks just like the Weistech.

And I just looked, there's an AMG GT carbon driveshaft on eBay for $1200, that's amazing
And: it's got a part number!!!!!!!!

BLKROKT

You're right that the pictures on those sites are "for marketing purposes only, actual product may vary")

HorsepowerFreaks has the Weistec driveshaft (Part #: 01-156-00575-0) for $2995.
HorsepowerFreaks has the DSS driveshaft (Part #: MBSH-C63-C) for $1699.
https://www.horsepowerfreaks.com/adv...3%2BAMG&page=1

HorsepowerFreaks also list the DSS rear axles

I wouldn't think that the CLK or GT driveshafts would bolt right up. Without measuring it's going to be impossible to tell.

Vladds

I am asking the vendor to measure
Edit: both the AMG GT and the SLS AMG are transaxle so these are not going to work.

marioflex

I have the Weistec CF drive shaft and in it is a bolt on piece. And I bought my DSS axles thru Real Street. Very easy to install.

Vladds

Mario, as far as the center bearing carrier, once you removed it, did you have to also cut the bolts that are welded to the chassis?

mr747

this is awesome Great find bud

Jordan@Weistec

Thank you guys for bringing this thread back.

If anyone has any questions about a Weistec performance product feel free to PM me, and I will answer any questions you may have.

jd_hinks

I've recently been in touch with a QA-1 fitment technician a while ago. They custom design carbon drive shafts in house. They quoted me 1600 just depending slip yokes and/or other attachments. Here is their process.

BLKROKT

Thanks for entering the discussion here Jordan.

I'm sure many people like myself would like to know the difference between the DSS carbon fiber driveshaft and the Weistec one. It's not an immaterial difference in price, so it's probably in everyone's interest to know on this post what they're getting that's better for the additional $1300 if one were to choose your product (rather than via PM which doesn't really help anyone).

If you could help us out here it'd be appreciated.

BLKROKT

I'd be interested in learning more about your conversations with them. Maybe this isn't the thread for discussing it, but perhaps QA1 would be interested in a Group Buy if we could get 5 people or so lined up for this?

jd_hinks

Agreed. Good point.

mr747

I recon it will be the weight of the weistec item why the weistec product is superior

But i could be wrong

BLKROKT

Yeah Brad that could very well be the case. That's what I'm saying - surely Weistec knows the differences. And if there's a good reason(s) for paying the higher price, than I'm sure many of us would. But if they're basically the same - DSS QA1 and Weistec - then the decision gets even easier...

mr747

100% mate get what your saying

I can get us hooked up on the price for the weistec Item if need be

Im sure if i speak to 1 of the boys they can help us out

BLKROKT

If they can match the competition then it sounds like a deal!

But seriously, the QA1 product sounds like the real deal from what I'm reading. And we know that DSS knows what they're doing. I hope that's not 'AMG Tax' I'm catching a whiff of from your boys...

Vladds

Carbon Dated

Adding a CFDS was one of my favorite modifications on my previous hot rod.
I'd be interested in this for the C63 if the price was reasonable.
3 grand seems like it's about double what it needs to be.

Vladds

So just as a matter of record, the GT OEM carbon driveshaft is 67" 3/8 long.
I'm going to post here the part number too, just in case.
It won't fit if I'm right and the GT is transaxle because a shaft designed for transaxle is not designed to carry the multiplied torque that comes out of the transmission but only the shaft torque of the engine.
There was another one for sale at around $700.

The other thing with these is that there seems to be a recall on them.