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Old 10-31-2020, 02:18 AM
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After Market LSD option?

G'Day Folks,

I was just thinking about fitting an OEM Limited Slip Differential to my C63, so Googled it up, and located this potential aftermarket option;
https://www.tractionconcepts.com/Mer.../tcxmb5732.htm

I just found this potential replacement diff?

Any personal experience with this, or advice from anybody regarding this option, would be appreciated.

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you don't want that fake LSD mod. kleeman uses the same thing. it helps but is not even half as good as a real limited slip differential. wavetrac's and quaife's go for 800-1000. saving a few hundred for a worse part isn't worth it.
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Go OEM (cheap used) or use a clutch-type like Drexler if you’re serious about traction. The helicals are junk, none of them provide traction when one wheel is at zero load (i.e. slipping), with the possible exception of WaveTrac.
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I wished OEM were cheap used. they sell for 900+ these days from eby or the wreckers. I've been on the lookout for something to replace my pegleg for not to much money.
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I wished OEM were cheap used. they sell for 900+ these days from eby or the wreckers. I've been on the lookout for something to replace my pegleg for not to much money.
I’d still pay that for a used OEM clutch-type diff 100/100 times over $1k+ for any helical. Even better if that’s for the whole pumpkin, couldn’t be an easier install vs all the disassembly, trimming and shimming that’s has to be done to fit a helical.
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G'Day Folks,

Thank You one and all, for your informative replies, Very Much Appreciated!

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Get the OEM. Keep rebuilding it and you’re future proof
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I’d still pay that for a used OEM clutch-type diff 100/100 times over $1k+ for any helical. Even better if that’s for the whole pumpkin, couldn’t be an easier install vs all the disassembly, trimming and shimming that’s has to be done to fit a helical.

I always liked the torsen style (quaife, peloquin) that my Audis all have.

never had one do a one wheel peel on me.
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G'Day Fella's,

Thank You also, for your replies and advice on this subject, Very Much Appreciated!
I'll start looking for a OEM, LSD.

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Originally Posted by Homer Oz
G'Day Fella's,

Thank You also, for your replies and advice on this subject, Very Much Appreciated!
I'll start looking for a OEM, LSD.

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G'day mate,

Have a look at OS Giken diffs. Difflabs sells them. And they're based in Aus. They run about $2kish. Here is the link

https://www.difflab.com.au/products/...89d44c3b&_ss=r

Enjoy!
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G'Day Fella's,

Thank You for that advice and Link Panzerbiscuit, Very Much Appreciated.
I'll go and have a look.

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OS Giken is on my radar as they need very little rebuilding if any. In the world of racing, the OS Giken LSD has the longest service interval of any clutch type LSD on the market. My friends who race professionally swear by it as less rebuilds require less time and money. Helical LSD's versus Clutch style LSD's perform very differently. Clutch style LSD's are offered in 1 way, 1.5 way, and 2 way engagements. Helical LSD's are not available in such format.
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yeah thanks. I used your thread as a guide but it seems them wreckers have wised up. each one of them now knows that the X while looking down the axle socket means it's a locking or sport differential.
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Originally Posted by hachiroku
yeah thanks. I used your thread as a guide but it seems them wreckers have wised up. each one of them now knows that the X while looking down the axle socket means it's a locking or sport differential.
Well some of them do know that. It took me about two month to find one.
The one I bought did not have the image showing the X. I went by the VIN to look up the option.

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Thank you to you also, for this confirmation and Link, Very Much Appreciated!

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Im located in canada and swapping my oem LSD from my 2014 c63 507 coupe out for a Wavetrac, will be selling my oem one. Comes with the lsd only, not the housing.

Gonna sell localy likely but possibly toying with the idea of shipping. It'll be a few months atleast till i grab it from the shop (i live 3h away from the shop building my car right now).

PM me if you want and i can get your # and keep you posted if anything. Has just under 69, 000 Kilometers on it.



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Im located in canada and swapping my oem LSD from my 2014 c63 507 coupe out for a Wavetrac, will be selling my oem one. Comes with the lsd only, not the housing.

Gonna sell localy likely but possibly toying with the idea of shipping. It'll be a few months atleast till i grab it from the shop (i live 3h away from the shop building my car right now).

PM me if you want and i can get your # and keep you posted if anything. Has just under 69, 000 Kilometers on it.

PM’d you.
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Originally Posted by the_indian_kid
Im located in canada and swapping my oem LSD from my 2014 c63 507 coupe out for a Wavetrac, will be selling my oem one. Comes with the lsd only, not the housing.

Gonna sell localy likely but possibly toying with the idea of shipping. It'll be a few months atleast till i grab it from the shop (i live 3h away from the shop building my car right now).

PM me if you want and i can get your # and keep you posted if anything. Has just under 69, 000 Kilometers on it.
before you sell can you post pics of the removed LSD unit? also if it has any serial numbers or markings to identify. I'm curious to see the design, if its forged, the cam design, etc.
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before you sell can you post pics of the removed LSD unit? also if it has any serial numbers or markings to identify. I'm curious to see the design, if its forged, the cam design, etc.
Gonna need to ask my parts guy to track the OEM lsd too. I can’t find part numbers anywhere. I almost guarantee it’s a shared LSD between platforms.
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supposedly all same generation V8 Mercedes AMG vehicles came with the same LSD unit although in a different housing. the LSD unit may be fitted to the 300C SRT8 as well as they did not come with a factory LSD option from what I recall. the 300C SRT8 shares the same differential as ours and gives us further options in regards to ring and pinion gear ratios.

from what I gather, the W212 bi-turbo 4matic also came with the same LSD unit. those on ebay are selling upwards of 1,250 but much lower miles and with less damage than earlier generations of vehicles.
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before you sell can you post pics of the removed LSD unit? also if it has any serial numbers or markings to identify. I'm curious to see the design, if its forged, the cam design, etc.

It's been 2-3yrs since installing OEM MB LSD with upgraded plates/ramps by Florian at LimitedSlip.de and unfortunately can't locate any photos, but the OEM MB LSD is made by Drexler, with casing exactly like this:

https://shop.drexler-motorsport.com/...mercedes?c=103

There are more photos of the OEM MB LSD on Celicasaur's 3.06 Final Drive Swap Thread:
https://mbworld.org/forums/c63-amg-w...e-changer.html

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...3b5a395546.jpg

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G'Day Folks,

Thank You MBNGR, for that information and those links.

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