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Old 12-09-2014, 10:58 PM
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It maintains the peak and goes flat .
Stock 6800rpm when changing gears drops to 5200. @5200 I'm at 420rw. At 6800 it's 470rw.
On 7500 tune when changing a 7500 it drops to 5800. @5800 I'm at 450rw and 7500 I'm at 470.
What's up Hagi! Did you have to ask Jeremy to raise it or was it part of the header tune?
Old 12-09-2014, 11:43 PM
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What's up Hagi! Did you have to ask Jeremy to raise it or was it part of the header tune?
Hey . Yea man just ask and you shall receive . My friend with tune only got 7300 and his kicking alot of cars a$$es.
Old 12-09-2014, 11:46 PM
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Hey . Yea man just ask and you shall receive . My friend with tune only got 7300 and his kick a lot of cars a$$es.
Sweet! I'm planning on installing my AR headers soon. I need to get a header matched tune after my installation. Do you think the raised 7300 or 7500 rpm is reliable?
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Sweet! I'm planning on installing my AR headers soon. I need to get a header matched tune after my installation. Do you think the raised 7300 or 7500 rpm is reliable?
I don't drive the car everyday anymore but when I do its get driven hard and so far the 7500 is doing fine. Start at 7300 work your way up.
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Awesome example of how efficient the engine runs to stay flat till 7500rpm.

Engine life will however DEFINITELY reduce. Can't fight plain physics here. The extra piston speed will add enormous stress to the rods.

How much life reduction? No idea, they are strong. Mine has seen 9300rpm when I picked her up - missing 3rd and going to 1st. OUCH... but has never missed a beat since.

On a weekend warrior it may not be a problem. On a daily driver - I'd flick it on after a year or two at regular 7500rpm pulls (and tell the new owner the rpm limit was raised).

I'm going to see if I can get different shift points between the C mode and S mode, and S+ mode. I'd leave C mode stock; run 7k in S mode, then 7300 in S+. If cut out came in right at 7500 you could run it in manual to 7.5 for drag racing on the paddles.
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You hit 9300 in the c63? Or another car ??
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You hit 9300 in the c63? Or another car ??

In my new 507 that I had just picked up.... it had 1750 miles on it ex UK



Was my first ever experience driving with paddles, and I f'd it up lol
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That's wierd , the ecu will not allow that to prevent damage , Is it tuned there fore factory failsafes disabled?
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That's wierd , the ecu will not allow that to prevent damage , Is it tuned there fore factory failsafes disabled?
Factory stock at the time as far as I know. I would have thought it would have locked me out of 1st gear - but I can assure you it went in

it sure rev'd
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We have tuned many cars running 7300-7500rpm limit. Protection RPM limits are not changed for high temp or limp modes (these are the protections features that still remain). RPM raising is a special request and is not included with our regular tuning packages. The M156 & M159 valvetrains are very capable of revving at this higher set rpm with out causing any damage or extra wear to components. MB/AMG test these engines at far higher rpms to ensure that parts are over-engineered to last.

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Originally Posted by SALES@OETUNING
We have tuned many cars running 7300-7500rpm limit. Protection RPM limits are not changed for high temp or limp modes (these are the protections features that still remain). RPM raising is a special request and is not included with our regular tuning packages. The M156 & M159 valvetrains are very capable of revving at this higher set rpm with out causing any damage or extra wear to components. MB/AMG test these engines at far higher rpms to ensure that parts are over-engineered to last.

Thx a lot for that info

So i should be save with raised 7500rpm limiter when i have installed the SLS valve Springs
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Originally Posted by SALES@OETUNING
We have tuned many cars running 7300-7500rpm limit. Protection RPM limits are not changed for high temp or limp modes (these are the protections features that still remain). RPM raising is a special request and is not included with our regular tuning packages. The M156 & M159 valvetrains are very capable of revving at this higher set rpm with out causing any damage or extra wear to components. MB/AMG test these engines at far higher rpms to ensure that parts are over-engineered to last.
nice. Now I can have more RpMs plz
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Alright... Now testing ECUProgram Stage 2+ (Long tube headers, full catless, high flow filters and 94 octane) with 7500 redline... Will report how she goes!

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Toxic do you use oe tune?
J: are you the only tuning company who can raise the rev limit with out modifying tcu? I remember many years ago when I was using another tuner, even though we increased rev limit the changes never occurred. At the time, correct me if I am wrong, but we were told the tcu had to modified too, to be able to increase the rev limit.

What other tuning companies increase rev limit?
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Toxic do you use oe tune?
J: are you the only tuning company who can raise the rev limit with out modifying tcu? I remember many years ago when I was using another tuner, even though we increased rev limit the changes never occurred. At the time, correct me if I am wrong, but we were told the tcu had to modified too, to be able to increase the rev limit.

What other tuning companies increase rev limit?
H, I am not sure what other tuners are able to do with regards to raising RPM. We have always been able to do this. 7300 for non-P31 cars & 7500 for P31 & M159 SLS.
Not sure who's tune Toxicxxx uses?
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Originally Posted by mthis
On the dash it goes to 7800-7900 but it's really 7500-7600 . Been running this set up for a while no issued and the extra rpm help with the lag issue big time now I don't hit rev limiter as much .


Wheels are F14s 18 inch. Just my car is slammed so they look bigger.
Sorry to bump an old thread but, I wonder if my tach just runs true. I got the limiter bumped to 7500 and I cant even make it to 7500 on the tach. let alone 7800-7900 like mthis avatar. in sport my car will wind out to right before 7k when I put it in manual and spin it higher I see at most 7200/7300 without hitting the limiter (which I hate to do).

where are your guys tachs with 7500 rpm rev limit? I'm sure not impossible but can mine just be a unicorn and run true? (little pun there LOL)
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my OE Tune has its redline raised. its great.
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my OE Tune has its redline raised. its great.
LOL c'mon man, you OE tuning guys are like android users.

how about post something useful or relevant. Seeing you have an E63 why not start with in M mode when you shift at 7500 where is the needle on your tach?

Thanks in advance
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I have a 7500 redline on my oetune and the tech clearly goes in the red zone past the 7k mark

some times I think I have an 8k limit because I swear I seen way past the middle between 7 and 8 k
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Originally Posted by skratch77
I have a 7500 redline on my oetune and the tech clearly goes in the red zone past the 7k mark

some times I think I have an 8k limit because I swear I seen way past the middle between 7 and 8 k
maybe that's how the c63's are, idk I cant get mine to half way through red unless I hit the limiter and it spikes that high. when I am in S it shifts right before 7k
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If you datalog via OBD2 you will you will see that the analogue tach is off and reads higher than actual operating data proves. We change RPM limits for each gear also, so you reach the correct RPM limit in each gear.
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wish mine went to 9,500 like my Toyota does.
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Factory stock at the time as far as I know. I would have thought it would have locked me out of 1st gear - but I can assure you it went in

it sure rev'd
Lol sorry man... no chance your car revved to 9300RPM. It's all in your head.
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Originally Posted by hachiroku
wish mine went to 9,500 like my Toyota does.
Which Toyota? I'm guessing not the 'Rolla in your sig that's sold...?

Mine does 9,000 on the street and 9,500 at the drag strip



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