Removing upper dash for Alcantara wrap
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Not sure if this has been addressed before. I am dying to remove my upper dash and wrap it in Alcantara. Like this:
http://www.prior-design.de/PD2014/wp...edes_main1.jpg I've been researching this for some time, and got some great pointers on this forum: http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show....php?t=2401575 I'm reasonably confident that I can pull this off, and have it look the way I want. The plastic dash kills me every time I look at it. The problem is... I have zero idea how to get the dash apart. Can someone who has done it, or someone with the applicable exploded diagram from the service manual, help explain to me how to get it out? Seems like the perfect project for these mid-winter days. In return for help I'll construct a VFAQ so that the process is documented. Thanks |
Alcantra Dash was only standard on the C63 DR520 Edition.
And Leather dash was standard on C63 Edition 63 http://www.topgear.com/uk/imageresiz...615&Height=347 http://liveimages.carsales.com.au/ca...Pad&width=1050 |
That's fascinating, thanks. But do you know how to get the dash off.
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Whoa ressurect!
I've always been interested in this as well and stumbled across this thread. Any new solutions since? |
Too many projects and not enough time. I should have done it this winter, but too busy with work to tear into my car much.
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Have considered going to like Jo-Anns or something LOL and buying some leather/alc, cut it to dimensions and have some light duty double sided tape, with stitching done myself.
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The major tricky points are a) figuring out how to get the upper dash apart with all the hidden clips etc, and getting it back together correctly so it doesn't rattle, and b) finding an adhesive (double-sided tape won't work at all, you need to cover the dash in a thin consistent layer of special adhesive that upholsterers use) for the alcantara that won't bubble or lift with the temperature variations that part of the dash sees.
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The tricky part is also the airbag, got to make sure it can actually deploy when needed.
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Originally Posted by ricecooker713
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The tricky part is also the airbag, got to make sure it can actually deploy when needed.
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I'll dig into this and see what I can do.
Also good call on the airbags, I totally forgot. I wonder how it will work to incorporate the safety part of it [similar to why seat covers wouldn't work well here either] |
It would be hot, for sure. First time I drove a c-class (C350) I said to my sales guy "why would I drive this when a VW Golf has better quality plastic?".
Then I drove a 63 and I couldn't care less what the interior looked like. But it would be a yuuuuuge upgrade on the feel of the car. |
On the plus side I have lots of materials from my car mats along with stitching materials so on that end I should be good to go! Alcantra won't work as well for my interior since I don't have any so I'll try the leather route. The bad part is I don't have any time lol.
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Originally Posted by Adi-Benz
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Have considered going to like Jo-Anns or something LOL and buying some leather/alc, cut it to dimensions and have some light duty double sided tape, with stitching done myself.
The rubber material on the dashboard never bothered me but I did consider getting in done in black leather and grey stitching. Getting the dash done is quite costly, because it requires skill, experience and removal/install done by a professional. Don't cheap out by trying to remove and install the dash yourself. If you really want to get it done in alcantara, find a specialist shop who will do it properly. You will regret it if the stitches are crooked or the fabric will start peeling in the hot sun. |
Doesn't look so bad. But then again, I have a habit of doing things that probably shouldn't be done by myself...
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It's actually rather easy I did my 944 in alcantara and the dash was surprisingly easy to do, I forget what adhesive I used but basically you just cut fabric to fit, stitch portions that are going to have any sharp changes in contour and or wherever visually you want stitching
add adhesive, slowly apply material and stretch it in palce. the trickiest part was reinstall not messing up the work and being that it is wrapped and has more material the fit is a little tighter only ****ty part is you pretty much have to do the doors and centre console or it will look dumb |
Theres also the low risk route of doing it as a cover instead of a wrap and you just integrate it as best you can. The material won't flow around under the dash but you can't see most of it anyway.
No, it's not a joke. If you can be crafty enough its possible. This isn't rocket science. :nix: |
Originally Posted by Adi-Benz
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Theres also the low risk route of doing it as a cover instead of a wrap and you just integrate it as best you can. The material won't flow around under the dash but you can't see most of it anyway.
No, it's not a joke. If you can be crafty enough its possible. This isn't rocket science. :nix: |
http://www.seriouswheels.com/pics-20...d-1280x960.jpg
Something like this for me ^ Check out this thread, has some relevant stuff: http://www.benzworld.org/forums/w126...d-leather.html |
^^^yeah that looks pretty good. Maybe a little too much white for my taste but definitely better than the cheap plastic dash we have.
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This is the stuff right here. $200 worth of material, plus glue and a lot of patience, should do the whole dash and doors.
http://www.jpmsupplyco.com/collectio...ant=7349017093 |
Originally Posted by BLKROKT
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This is the stuff right here. $200 worth of material, plus glue and a lot of patience, should do the whole dash and doors.
http://www.jpmsupplyco.com/collectio...ant=7349017093 Wow, thats a lot of colors to choose from. An artsy person can really make a badass interior with that selection. |
That looks good but $100/yard? You can get similar for less somewhere else for sure.
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Originally Posted by Adi-Benz
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That looks good but $100/yard? You can get similar for less somewhere else for sure.
Thats what you're paying for. Is it better quality? Idk, most likely as everyone wants Italian fabrics. |
My cousin has his business and imports italian and turkish materials all the time. I will talk to him and see what he has.
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Originally Posted by Adi-Benz
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That looks good but $100/yard? You can get similar for less somewhere else for sure.
It's something that has to look good and be durable enough to last. I know for sure that genuine alcantara is up to that task. What are you going to save on 2yds (because that's all the material it takes) by going with something else, a couple of bucks? On something that's a $200 project total? On something that looks you in the face every time you drive the car so you better make sure to get it right? I don't want to have to wonder about the material. Whatever, suit yourself man.... |
My point is that I've seen places selling it for like $50/yard online. Compare to fake suede, just for example, it is $13/yard to a relatively big gap. This is definitely something worth doing right, just was suprised that they were selling it for that much.
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Ah, got it. I didn't think there was another source for genuine Alcantara. I think those guys are the exclusive US distributor but I could be wrong.
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Originally Posted by BLKROKT
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Ah, got it. I didn't think there was another source for genuine Alcantara. I think those guys are the exclusive US distributor but I could be wrong.
Just for reference, http://jalopnik.com/what-the-hell-is...way-1604799947 Having trouble finding if Ultrasuede is a more cost effective solution :smash: Edit: maybe this? http://www.ebay.com/itm/ECO-AUTOMOTI...-/221178452709 Edit again: I guess some stuff was lost in translation but its a fake alternative I suppose. Not the one I originally saw but hey, something to read. |
Eh. For $200 vs $100 I'm not going to lose any sleep over getting the Alcantara, which I know will work great, with the right durability, color and thickness, versus taking a blind shot on something which might turn out to be crap.
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Agreed. I have time next weekend so I might be able to pull a few things together and get started. This of course is dependent on if my car won't be in the shop / or looking for new car to replace it.
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Good luck. I'd like to do this but I have a HID headlight project that's currently in a million pieces that I'll never get finished if I get started on this too. Keep us updated.
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Originally Posted by BLKROKT
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Good luck. I'd like to do this but I have a HID headlight project that's currently in a million pieces that I'll never get finished if I get started on this too. Keep us updated.
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Originally Posted by SuperFastYo
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I wanna see the headlight project!
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Good DIY here as well: http://www.6speedonline.com/forums/9...ower-dash.html
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Another one here: http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/458...r-project.html
I'm ordering the Alcantara today, **** it. I think the color "anthracite" should do it - it's between "jet black" and "dark charcoal". This should take no more than a day to do. Will let you guys know what I find when I start pulling the dash apart. |
Originally Posted by BLKROKT
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Good DIY here as well: http://www.6speedonline.com/forums/9...ower-dash.html
Good catch. A good tip he mentioned is using painters tape and then spraying adhesive on top of that, so the dash won't be damaged (and if we bollocks it up, it can be easily removed) |
Originally Posted by Adi-Benz
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Good catch. A good tip he mentioned is using painters tape and then spraying adhesive on top of that, so the dash won't be damaged (and if we bollocks it up, it can be easily removed)
And the airbag area should be easy. You can see in pics that the passenger side airbag comes out of the dash in a defined way along defined lines. If I cut it right and just glue it back down, the cut lines should be practically invisible. |
Originally Posted by BLKROKT
(Post 7063741)
Another one here: http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/458...r-project.html
I'm ordering the Alcantara today, **** it. I think the color "anthracite" should do it - it's between "jet black" and "dark charcoal". This should take no more than a day to do. Will let you guys know what I find when I start pulling the dash apart. https://mbworld.org/forums/c-class-w204/507518-dashboard-removal.html this guy wanted to do similar but the thread died, shame when they never post conclusion |
Yeah I still haven't found a good step-by-step of a W204 dashboard removal, only one for a W203 where the guy had to replace his evaporator core. Can't be so much different, but you're right that there are a lot of hidden clips inside the vents etc
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Originally Posted by BLKROKT
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The Ferrari guy was going to lay down some 1/8" neoprene first for a bit of cushion. I think that might give a better smoother surface for the alcantara to adhere to. But then you run the risk of two different delamination events, plus the dash will be significantly thicker. I'm not so worried about messing up the dash, I just don't care that much, but I may look for a junkyard donor. Decisions decisions....
And the airbag area should be easy. You can see in pics that the passenger side airbag comes out of the dash in a defined way along defined lines. If I cut it right and just glue it back down, the cut lines should be practically invisible. |
Closest thing I could find; facelift, so no help for me lol but it might help you
https://youtu.be/ST0Ux5a-M4o |
Are you gonna do stitching?
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Originally Posted by Adi-Benz
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Are you gonna do stitching?
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Originally Posted by BLKROKT
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Nope. Don't care for it that much and trying to keep it simple. Just want the shiny plastic covered.
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Not a W204, but this might help: http://bayhas.com/mercedes/w211/cont..._dashboard.htm
Someone posted something like this once for the W204 C63 from one of those super-old-looking webpages like this where you had to go through a bunch of submenus (some obvious and some hidden) to get to the information. I can't seem to find it, but I know it's out there and gave a step-by-step like this for all sorts of great things. |
Don't you track your car? It may not be much, but wouldn't the whole idea be to lose weight? Not add it?
Going down this road as a DIY is risky. If you jack it up you'll be pissed and can only point the finger at yourself. Plenty more opportunities to mess it up than get it perfect too. And perfect is what it needs to be. IMO, if you really want this done, take it to the pros. This way you can at least point the finger at someone else when it doesn't look right. |
I can't imagine that it would add enough weight for him to care much. Your other arguments are definitely valid though. If all goes well I will be starting tomorrow but we'll see. Plus theres lots of people who have done it before (not necessarily on the w204 platform but in general).
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I just won't eat lunch that day. The weight is negligible and getting rid of windshield glare and just making it a nicer place to spend time is worth the extra pound in weight IMO.
I can appreciate your other points, but if you think I'm going to leave my car at an upholstery shop for a week you're wrong. I don't want anyone to point fingers at but myself, and I don't trust anyone to be as crazy perfectionist about it as me either. So I'm just down to color now. Poked around the dash a bit more with the help of that guide and it doesn't look too bad actually. Driving around trying to figure if I want "Deep Black" or "Anthracite". Hmmmm.... |
2x2yds of Anthracite Alcantara and glue on the way! Now, time to go look at pulling the dash apart....
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Originally Posted by BLKROKT
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I can appreciate your other points, but if you think I'm going to leave my car at an upholstery shop for a week you're wrong. I don't want anyone to point fingers at but myself, and I don't trust anyone to be as crazy perfectionist about it as me either. |
Thanks Purple, I really don't think it's going to be that tough to get right. Just need to be patient.
Found a couple more good DIYs if anyone else is interested. http://www.nsxprime.com/forum/showth...-1-The-gluing? https://lifewithjson.com/2015/01/11/...ith-alcantara/ http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=964523 http://rennlist.com/forums/993-forum...erior-diy.html |
Originally Posted by BLKROKT
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2x2yds of Anthracite Alcantara and glue on the way! Now, time to go look at pulling the dash apart....
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So I hadn't been in my car for a few weeks...
Lol the dashboard is so small this shouldn't be that hard! Got used to the chrysler 300 dashboard which is wayy bigger lol. Didn't get a chance to buy material over the weekend and now I have to get the car in the shop also among other things so >project pushed back> Also weather sucks. Doing it in cold might not be good cause stuff expands then when it warms...then again you're pulling it out so you should be fine. |
Originally Posted by BLKROKT
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2x2yds of Anthracite Alcantara and glue on the way! Now, time to go look at pulling the dash apart....
Good luck!! Can't wait to see your results!! |
I did a similar job when I had my 350z. I alcantara wrapped the headliner, A-pillars, B-pillars, center armrest, and some other interior parts to match.
The most difficult problem I foresee on this dash job would be those complex curves, particularly the ones in the corners around the gauge pod and display. Those will be tough to get perfect without any wrinkling since the fabric doesn't have any stretch (at least mine didn't). Without doing stitched seams there, you'll need to cut slices or wedges into any fabric that gets wrapped around the backside of the panel. Not sure what adhesive you bought, but I used 3M Hi-Strength 90 spray adhesive. It handles the interior teperatures far better than the 3M 77. It lasted 3+ years before I sold the car, I can only assume its still going strong. |
Did you get your alcantara yet?
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Nice! hahaha!!!!
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I wanna do the same subscribed
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Originally Posted by Jasonoff
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Originally Posted by Oshammo
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https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...35c8491e8d.jpgEnough evidence buddy?
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Originally Posted by BLKROKT
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I knew you had your eye on that pink mat
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If the interior doesn't work out, you can always try the exterior....
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...1a3cd7be60.jpg https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...f0b601fab9.jpg |
So where did you get your inspiration?
http://cdn-03.independent.ie/incomin...w620/dandd.jpg Lol ok lets not derail anymore this is an interesting thread. |
My car is officially in the /shop/ so whenever you start let us know, I'm gonna be far behind
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Originally Posted by Adi-Benz
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So where did you get your inspiration?
http://cdn-03.independent.ie/incomin...w620/dandd.jpg Lol ok lets not derail anymore this is an interesting thread. |
Are you done yet? God. I don't know if I can handle another reddragon type of project duration.
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Cant wait to see finished product.
I got a quote to do mine in leather here in Toronto. $850 including materials. A lot for labor and Re/Re I guess. It does transform the interior though. |
Taking the dash apart now. As I thought, it's really NOT easy.
Also tried to install my red seat belts. After taking all of the side interior trim off, and looking at all of the warnings and connections on the existing belt hardware, thought it best not to touch anything. It works well now, and I'd like it to stay that way. Anyone want a set of front red belts? |
Originally Posted by BLKROKT
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Also tried to install my red seat belts. After taking all of the side interior trim off, and looking at all of the warnings and connections on the existing belt hardware, thought it best not to touch anything. It works well now, and I'd like it to stay that way. Anyone want a set of front red belts?
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Do you have the WIS? Because the laptop I had it on is dead. I'm currently doing it by poking around and pulling things until they either come off or break.
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Originally Posted by BLKROKT
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Do you have the WIS? Because the laptop I had it on is dead. I'm currently doing it by poking around and pulling things until they either come off or break.
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Awesome thanks. I was just installing my EPC/WIS on another computer and it was taking forever.
If you get a chance can you run it for the upper dash too? I'm starting to break things. |
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Originally Posted by BLKROKT
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Awesome thanks. I was just installing my EPC/WIS on another computer and it was taking forever.
If you get a chance can you run it for the upper dash too? I'm starting to break things. |
Yeah that helps thanks
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I went to the store on friday to check out materials. There was nothing good. Its gonna be on the side for me as I'm gonna be working on my steering wheel whenever I get a chance. Don't break anything!
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Spent a couple hours on this tonight. I gotta tell you, it's really not at all easy. Super tedious stuff. Tons of hidden bolts and tabs and clips and such that have to come out a very specific way or else they'll break. I want to shoot Mercedes engineers right now. I got my WIS working again, and printed out all of the subsections this time. The upper dash looks like it's a separate piece from the radio surround and lower sections. Let me tell you, it is definitely NOT. That whole damn thing has to come out, which means removing the instrument cluster, glovebox, center console, radio, command unit, A/C controls, A pillar trims, and then the steering wheel and column trim too. I got real tired of it, and my car's going to Harry @ Bergen in the morning for the KWs and subframe bushings, so I gave up while I was sure the car would still operate fairly normally. It looks like a theft recovery right now. I have the glovebox here and other assorted trim pieces, and I'll start practicing on those for the next week or two while the car's in surgery. Will post any progress.
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Sounds like a fairly big job then. Good luck.
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Wow, I feel your pain. :crazy:
But don't worry the dingle balls and fuzzy dice will go much easier. :D |
Oh I missed the update
Man sounds like a mess lol, any practice pieces done? |
Don't give up....take your time and hang in there. From pics I have seen from other cars in Europe, it will look awesome...Godspeed
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https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...889f7b9013.jpg
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...0e5f2fd763.jpg https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...4a218485e9.jpg https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...138d77ccf7.jpg https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...79971650a7.jpg https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...fd0dc88293.jpg https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...9ed1ec2891.jpg https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...4c6e17ff47.jpg Yup, definitely a one piece dash....But it doesn't look like there are that many fasteners used to secure it....However I have taken most of my Merc apart a dozen times and I'm sure you have to remove every component AND in a defined order.....I do upholstery work in addition to everything else I do and you were right in one of your earlier posts, it is NOT that hard, just very tedious due to all of the nooks, crannies and contours-but very doable if you do your research and TAKE YOUR TIME |
Do yourself a favor and watch this video, every minute of it....This guy really does know exactly what he is doing and most importantly the process of pre-working your piece, as in cutting material out of the way BEFORE you get to the gluing it down part and also how to fill recessed places, ridges, unusual inner and outer curves....This video shows a pro at work and in a manner you can follow as you go
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This thread got me thinking, I wonder if they'll have to remove the entire dash to replace the passenger airbag for the takata recall?
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I have an annoying squeak definitely coming from the top right side. If I push down on it gently, it squeaks. I'm gonna try to see if I can't get under there through the glove box and see what's going on. I'm thinking it's a loose fastener of some kind.
JP, is there a way to get up in there under the top of the dash? Does the glove box come out in some fashion? |
Glove box comes out pretty easy. Take the lower cover off under the dash that contains foot A/C ducts (2 screws). There's a screw under the side trim cover that has to come out. Then there are 5 screws for the glovebox itself. Once you have that out, there's room to poke around, however if your issue is in the upper corner of the dash you're not going to get up in there due to the airbag and A/C hardware being in the way.
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...49ac002b5f.jpg |
Originally Posted by jptaylor
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Yup, definitely a one piece dash....But it doesn't look like there are that many fasteners used to secure it....However I have taken most of my Merc apart a dozen times and I'm sure you have to remove every component AND in a defined order.....I do upholstery work in addition to everything else I do and you were right in one of your earlier posts, it is NOT that hard, just very tedious due to all of the nooks, crannies and contours-but very doable if you do your research and TAKE YOUR TIME
Here are the only screws actually holding the dash on https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...45d724dc14.png
Originally Posted by jptaylor
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Do yourself a favor and watch this video, every minute of it....This guy really does know exactly what he is doing and most importantly the process of pre-working your piece, as in cutting material out of the way BEFORE you get to the gluing it down part and also how to fill recessed places, ridges, unusual inner and outer curves....This video shows a pro at work and in a manner you can follow as you go
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Originally Posted by m a x i m u s
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I have an annoying squeak definitely coming from the top right side. If I push down on it gently, it squeaks. I'm gonna try to see if I can't get under there through the glove box and see what's going on. I'm thinking it's a loose fastener of some kind.
JP, is there a way to get up in there under the top of the dash? Does the glove box come out in some fashion? http://www.pelicanparts.com/techarti...ox_Removal.htm ...And as for you Mr. ROKT, I say rock on my Friend!!! I agree with you about cutting the dash into an upper and lower half to make it easier(but I would DEFINITELY devise a method to mechanically reattach them back together PRIOR to reinstall so that you don't have any squeaks or rattles. Hell, the worst that could happen is you end up with a dash that looks like **** or you screw it up cutting and fitting....Even if that were to happen you can get used dashes from eBay and car-part.com all day long for as low as around $200....If it were me,and considering how cheap they are, I would prolly just go ahead and buy a used take-out dash to actually modify and wrap. That way you can take your time and do it right WITHOUT either feeling rushed to get your original back in OR screwing it up and having to scramble to find a replacement after the fact....The pics I posted above are actually from a current eBay posting for a used take out, I just know that eBay sellers typically take LOTS of pics of used parts from ALL angles to help with their sale(I use eBay pics all the time to find out details of pieces I am removing on vehicles) |
That's a really great idea JP. I'll take a look on the bay now. It would make this project so much better.
First search result. And I can be sure it's new and the top trim option for the C63 as it came off a 507. The only thing is that I would have to strip everything off of my existing dash - electrical connectors, brackets, airbag hardware, screw clips, etc. It's still probably the right idea. https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...c8ed5bfa9.jpeg |
Originally Posted by BLKROKT
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That's a really great idea JP. I'll take a look on the bay now. It would make this project so much better.
If you need access to any special tools or materials that I may have in the shop just pm me, what's mine is always available to guys trying to diy things for themselves |
...And THIS is where I'd separate the dash into 2 pieces, there is already a factory parting line that is just not cut ALL the way through.
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...ae159a44cd.jpg Keep this in mind though, when you cover the 2 pieces in material(granted Alcantara is already pretty thin) you MAY see that where the 2 pieces meet you then have too much material for them to go back together how they were before....The word you need to know here is SKIVING. Skiving is basically shaving the back side of a material along the edges so that you have less material thickness that may interfere with panel alignment/fitment upon reinstallation |
Haha exactly I just drew this. :y
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...d856ca20e0.jpg There aren't enough screws holding the lower dash in to keep the split part in place tightly, but there is all the other stuff keeping it in place like the radio and A/C control units. I was thinking about wrapping each piece separately. That way things can be removed more easily in the future, I won't have to worry about that seam (I can make that gap bigger so the top and bottom half of the dash just slide against each other), I won't have to worry about mechanically attaching the two pieces, and I won't have to worry about the Alcantara wrapping funny or coming unglued where they join. The only consideration is if that lower dash will be held in securely enough, or if it will fall off. With my luck probably while I'm on a track. Edit: I think we are saying the same thing. I don't want to mechanically attach the upper to the lower dash if I don't have to though. To secure them together properly, you'd have to find a couple of spots behind the dash where they can be screwed together without interfering with any clearances or function of vents or anything. Too much work. I just want the upper dash to be held in by its 4 screws, and the lower held on by theirs plus the center console and all the control units. The width of that existing gap, once cut out will make up for the width of the 2 facing layers of Alcantara (wrapped around the edges). |
Thanks for the info, guys. The squeak happens when I press down on the top of the dash near the circular vent. I'll take a gander and see what's up.
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Originally Posted by m a x i m u s
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Thanks for the info, guys. The squeak happens when I press down on the top of the dash near the circular vent. I'll take a gander and see what's up.
not to go off topic but I have found/remedied dash squeaks in SEVERAL W204s to be in the speaker grills.....there are no fasteners holding them down, they have j hooks and slide towards the center to lock, a pillar to remove...grab some adhesive backed THIN THIN THIN felt from Michaels/Hobby Lobby, remove the a pillar, remove grill, place felt around perimeter, trim any excess flush with a razor, reinstall grill, pop a pillar back on.....may solve your problem |
Originally Posted by jptaylor
not to go off topic but I have found/remedied dash squeaks in SEVERAL W204s to be in the speaker grills.....there are no fasteners holding them down, they have j hooks and slide towards the center to lock, a pillar to remove...grab some adhesive backed THIN THIN THIN felt from Michaels/Hobby Lobby, remove the a pillar, remove grill, place felt around perimeter, trim any excess flush with a razor, reinstall grill, pop a pillar back on.....may solve your problem
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Originally Posted by m a x i m u s
(Post 7115936)
Thanks for the tip, and I also apologize for going off topic. I know sound travels but I'm pretty certain it's from the top of the dash bc it squeaks even when I press down very slightly. But I will check out that speaker in the A pillar and try to isolate the noise.
I need to make a correction....I said speaker grille when in all actuality there is NO speaker under there....This is the grill I'm referring to Maximus https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...7b0ba36e52.jpg |
I thought that's what you meant at first but then as I kept reading, I was thinking of the "speaker" on the door by the A pillar. Thanks for the clarification.
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is there a situation update?
nice signature(s!) btw. |
New dash gets delivered Thursday. I'm just going to take my time on that. Car has been in the body shop for the past couple weeks fixing my "track rash", so I haven't had a chance to take more apart.
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Gotcha. Let us know and take it easy!
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Originally Posted by Adi-Benz
(Post 7053826)
I'll dig into this and see what I can do.
Also good call on the airbags, I totally forgot. I wonder how it will work to incorporate the safety part of it [similar to why seat covers wouldn't work well here either] Our passenger air bag doors are a blind door just to the left of the video display (see page 46 ish of owner's manual). That is to say it is not actually a door but score lines cut into the underside of the IP where the bag sits that weaken it such that with the explosion of the charge the force tears these lines and lets the bag deploy. With bright light or on a sunny day if you look closely you should see these lines. So if you wrap the IP the bag will definitely not deploy. When I had my R170 I wanted to do a two tone change but while the pro I know would do the seats and console, he would not do the door inserts because painting them would change the deployment and that he said was illegal so please think it through. |
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Nice girl scout knife...
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Originally Posted by Jasonoff
(Post 7144989)
Nice girl scout knife...
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Originally Posted by Alex.currie44
(Post 7141681)
Guys, I made cover stock for molded IPs in Hondas and Toyotas and nearly had all the Ford molded business so I can offer some insight here.
Our passenger air bag doors are a blind door just to the left of the video display (see page 46 ish of owner's manual). That is to say it is not actually a door but score lines cut into the underside of the IP where the bag sits that weaken it such that with the explosion of the charge the force tears these lines and lets the bag deploy. With bright light or on a sunny day if you look closely you should see these lines. So if you wrap the IP the bag will definitely not deploy. When I had my R170 I wanted to do a two tone change but while the pro I know would do the seats and console, he would not do the door inserts because painting them would change the deployment and that he said was illegal so please think it through. |
Originally Posted by BLKROKT
(Post 7145005)
Your mom left it here the other night. I didn't know she was a Girl Scout. That would explain her knowledge of knots.
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You two
[QUOTE=Jasonoff;7145025]Am I gonna have a new brother or sister soon? :rolf:[/QUOTe
You two are hilarious!!! |
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[QUOTE=BLKROKT;7145010]Understood and thanks for your feedback. I examined those door/score marks, and am going to score or cut the Alcantara in the same pattern. When laid (glued) down to the dash surface, it should be all but invisible.[/QUOT
Looking forward to seeing it done. if you remember take some pics of the score lines you cut. |
Originally Posted by BLKROKT
(Post 7145005)
Your mom left it here the other night. I didn't know she was a Girl Scout. That would explain her knowledge of knots.
I wanna see a pic of the guts, please. Show us the inside of the dash. |
Originally Posted by Alex.currie44
(Post 7145043)
Looking forward to seeing it done.
if you remember take some pics of the score lines you cut. https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...50917aca55.jpg |
Like SKINNING A DEER BLKROKT.
....and then throwing some more skin on? |
Quite an endeavor. Can't wait to see how it turns out.
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Man what a project!! Can't wait to see the end result.
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Did you ever get anywhere with this? I was looking at doing it myself and found a shop locally that has done something similar with an E55 estate and it came out quite nice.
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Eh. I got a dash to work on but never found time. Maybe this winter. Getting my existing dash out is proving to be the biggest problem. |
Which reminds me, I did find one that did have the top done in Alcantara. However I don't remember if I saved the picture. I'll see if I can find it.
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That looks terrible |
Interior of the 2012 Brabus Bullit 800 with the bi-turbo V12 |
Yep, issa Brabus.
I just thought it was interesting since it only covers half. Also V12 Biturbo, whynot |
Originally Posted by BLKROKT
(Post 7600791)
That looks terrible The dash (again minus the red stitching) looks good. I'm of the opinion that fully wrapping the dash in alcantara would be overkill and end up looking like a couch. |
Reminds me of this I saw the other day https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...c4ec96377.jpeg |
^^^I think that one looks MUCH better. The orange is not what I would do. All black, maybe a light grey, or even a mocha brown would look good. Orange is too flashy for me. But as far as the dash, that one is clean IMO
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If it wasn't orange (as mentioned) I'd like it.
I'm more Interested in how he retrofitted the AMG GT (or is that SLS) console |
Originally Posted by Adi-Benz
(Post 7604033)
If it wasn't orange (as mentioned) I'd like it.
I'm more Interested in how he retrofitted the AMG GT (or is that SLS) console |
Originally Posted by Adi-Benz
(Post 7604033)
If it wasn't orange (as mentioned) I'd like it.
I'm more Interested in how he retrofitted the AMG GT (or is that SLS) console https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...cdf43ca43.jpeg |
Ah. Makes sense.
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