Eurocharge V6 wishlist
10-13-2016, 03:34 PM
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10-13-2016, 03:35 PM
#127
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I deserved that.
But we did deserve some info too. No need to be coy, Roy.
But we did deserve some info too. No need to be coy, Roy.
10-13-2016, 03:37 PM
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I have $20 that right now someone is thinking "Why is 604 calling him Roy?" lol.
10-13-2016, 04:03 PM
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Why are you calling me Roy?? Do I win the $20? Lol.
I just started working here last week. I'm learning the MB platform and all the other cool things we do here. So be nice to me. (:
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10-13-2016, 04:10 PM
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Check your email. You may find Im not as cranky as it seems.
AND I make good on my bets
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10-13-2016, 04:53 PM
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10-13-2016, 05:50 PM
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Hey all, this is Dave from Eurocharged ATX, in Austin. I wanted to join the discussion about the V.6 tune and also talk a little bit about an exciting new project we're developing in conjunction with the V.6 tune here at Eurocharged.. I'm sure we all know that some of the fastest current 1/4 mile and 1/2 mile cars are taking advantage of Ethanol - it's ability to cool the air charge, and it's stoich point allow it to be injected in higher quantities, which both cools the cylinder, and creates more power... Up until this point tuning for E85 on Mercedes vehicles has been difficult because of the wide variance of ethanol content you can get at the pump. This brings me to our announcement... FLEX FUEL for Mercedes!! We have spent years working on an E85 solution, and been in development for some time on a kit for Mercedes. It's now a reality. We currently have development kits on a C63, and an E55.
2012 C63 Sedan
- Eurocharged Tune, ROW, and is otherwise bone stock. With 70% Ethanol in the tank, the car makes 477WHP/435WTQ
2004 E55 Sedan
- Eurocharged Tune, 178mm Crank, Longtubes, 82mm TB, 750cc injectors. With 75-80% Ethanol the car makes 578WHP/602WTQ
With V6 nearing its release, it will give the ability to further customize your Eurocharged Tune. V.6 will already have a power increase (about 5hp) but also includes refinements to throttle maps, timing maps, and fueling. It will include the option to set your Rev Limiter, and delete the "Cold Start" function. With the new Ethanol controller, we can also give you the ability to run custom maps tailored specifically for Ethanol. If you have a MyGenius Handheld, you can have a custom Ethanol map for the track, and you can flash back and forth as you desire. Keep in mind that the system is FLEX, so you don’t need to always run an "ethanol tune" and worry about putting 93 in the tank... use 93/91, or ethanol and switch back and forth - the system will take care of everything.
On the 55 (M133K) cars, 750cc injectors are required in most cases; please contact us for information on this subject. Good news for the M156 guys - the stock injectors/fuel system can support up to 550WHP, so you're good to go.
We are also working on a V12 in the coming weeks, and possibly an AMG 32 motor, so if you have one of those, please stay tuned!
One more thing I want to touch on is the upcoming TT kit that will be available for the M156 platform. It is in the works and testing has and is being performed currently. Houston will be the best point of contact for information about the TT. For E85, contact Adam (PACougar on this Forum) at the Eurocharged ATX location. We look forward to further development with Ethanol, especially in conjunction with the TT kit and current supercharged cars. We are very excited to be able to now take advantage of all the benefits that Ethanol has provided other manufacturers - We look forward to hearing what the forum members think about it
2012 C63 Sedan
- Eurocharged Tune, ROW, and is otherwise bone stock. With 70% Ethanol in the tank, the car makes 477WHP/435WTQ
2004 E55 Sedan
- Eurocharged Tune, 178mm Crank, Longtubes, 82mm TB, 750cc injectors. With 75-80% Ethanol the car makes 578WHP/602WTQ
With V6 nearing its release, it will give the ability to further customize your Eurocharged Tune. V.6 will already have a power increase (about 5hp) but also includes refinements to throttle maps, timing maps, and fueling. It will include the option to set your Rev Limiter, and delete the "Cold Start" function. With the new Ethanol controller, we can also give you the ability to run custom maps tailored specifically for Ethanol. If you have a MyGenius Handheld, you can have a custom Ethanol map for the track, and you can flash back and forth as you desire. Keep in mind that the system is FLEX, so you don’t need to always run an "ethanol tune" and worry about putting 93 in the tank... use 93/91, or ethanol and switch back and forth - the system will take care of everything.
On the 55 (M133K) cars, 750cc injectors are required in most cases; please contact us for information on this subject. Good news for the M156 guys - the stock injectors/fuel system can support up to 550WHP, so you're good to go.
We are also working on a V12 in the coming weeks, and possibly an AMG 32 motor, so if you have one of those, please stay tuned!
One more thing I want to touch on is the upcoming TT kit that will be available for the M156 platform. It is in the works and testing has and is being performed currently. Houston will be the best point of contact for information about the TT. For E85, contact Adam (PACougar on this Forum) at the Eurocharged ATX location. We look forward to further development with Ethanol, especially in conjunction with the TT kit and current supercharged cars. We are very excited to be able to now take advantage of all the benefits that Ethanol has provided other manufacturers - We look forward to hearing what the forum members think about it
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10-13-2016, 08:57 PM
#135
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Awesome. A lot of irons in the fire!
One question though.....
Who the hell would want to delete the cold start function?!?!?! lol.
Looking forward to the rollout Dave. Thank you for posting.
One question though.....
Who the hell would want to delete the cold start function?!?!?! lol.
Looking forward to the rollout Dave. Thank you for posting.
10-13-2016, 10:37 PM
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10-13-2016, 10:44 PM
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10-13-2016, 11:46 PM
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10-14-2016, 01:31 AM
#139
Im all over this V6 tune for my 2010 E63. Hopefully it launches before your October sale is over!!
10-14-2016, 04:56 AM
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That's incredible. Safe to assume 500whp with headers will be a reality! 
10-14-2016, 09:46 AM
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10-14-2016, 10:24 AM
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Its amazing because there is VERY little information in the E63 forums regarding this stuff, but to its own defense, the E63 platform hasn't had much M156 offerings in the past several years for obvious reasons.
10-14-2016, 11:29 AM
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So it sounds like just doing the V6 tune for the M156 C63 should make it FLEX FUEL ready? Without any other additional hardware/parts?
And I agree with 604C63, why would we want to delete the cold start function???? please don't do that Dave!
And I agree with 604C63, why would we want to delete the cold start function???? please don't do that Dave!
10-14-2016, 12:09 PM
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1. V.6 will NOT have the ability to convert the car to FLEX FUEL all by itself, as MB has no hardware provisions to accomplish this. The E85 kit we are developing will be required if you desire FLEX and want to break into 500+ territory N/A (I realize some are there already, having invested in ported heads, cams, N20, etc. but this will benefit them even more in the way in the cooling effect). ***I have attached a photo of the FLEX kit in its testing configuration. It's already waterproof and lives in the engine bay, all connections are heat shrunk w/sealant. It's very simple to install (~2 hrs), and comprehensive detailed instructions will be included with each kit.***
2. V.6 WILL NOT delete Cold Start by default - it's possible so that item is by request.
3. The best thing about V.6 is you don't just "get what you get"... you have the option to set up some of the parameters based on your preferences.
Anything else, please ask
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10-14-2016, 01:20 PM
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To clear up any confusion:
1. V.6 will NOT have the ability to convert the car to FLEX FUEL all by itself, as MB has no hardware provisions to accomplish this. The E85 kit we are developing will be required if you desire FLEX and want to break into 500+ territory N/A (I realize some are there already, having invested in ported heads, cams, N20, etc. but this will benefit them even more in the way in the cooling effect). ***I have attached a photo of the FLEX kit in its testing configuration. It's already waterproof and lives in the engine bay, all connections are heat shrunk w/sealant. It's very simple to install (~2 hrs), and comprehensive detailed instructions will be included with each kit.***
2. V.6 WILL NOT delete Cold Start by default - it's possible so that item is by request.
3. The best thing about V.6 is you don't just "get what you get"... you have the option to set up some of the parameters based on your preferences.
Anything else, please ask
1. V.6 will NOT have the ability to convert the car to FLEX FUEL all by itself, as MB has no hardware provisions to accomplish this. The E85 kit we are developing will be required if you desire FLEX and want to break into 500+ territory N/A (I realize some are there already, having invested in ported heads, cams, N20, etc. but this will benefit them even more in the way in the cooling effect). ***I have attached a photo of the FLEX kit in its testing configuration. It's already waterproof and lives in the engine bay, all connections are heat shrunk w/sealant. It's very simple to install (~2 hrs), and comprehensive detailed instructions will be included with each kit.***
2. V.6 WILL NOT delete Cold Start by default - it's possible so that item is by request.
3. The best thing about V.6 is you don't just "get what you get"... you have the option to set up some of the parameters based on your preferences.
Anything else, please ask
