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Old 09-10-2015, 12:22 AM
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Suspension for C63.

So i'm wanting to lower my C63, but i don't want to affect the handling performance of it. Has anyone done just lowering springs without negatively affecting how the car handles? Would it be noticeably better to do koni yellows and H&R springs together? Thanks.
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I don't see how lowering would decrease the handling performance...? I'm on V3s 1.5" drop all around and the difference is night and day.
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Installing lowering springs on stock shocks and struts supposedly ruins them and the feel of the car.
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I heard H&R springs make car pull to the right.
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Originally Posted by saitesd1
Installing lowering springs on stock shocks and struts supposedly ruins them and the feel of the car.
What he said!

It would be best to get feedback from someone who has changed springs on their C63. I have not, but prior experience with shorter springs and stock shocks has never been good. Shorter springs need to be stronger (stiffer). Stronger springs need stronger shocks to control them. Shorter springs also need shorter shocks to keep from bottoming them out. Changing springs without going to a shock that is tuned to match it usually does more damage than good.
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Suspension for C63.

Generally speaking, you can run stock shocks depending on how much (or little) you drop the car. I ran slightly shorter springs on a different car with stock shocks with no problems. Never did suspension changes at all on the C63, so of course I would wait for others with personal experience to chime in.
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Everything is a trade off. If you like the stock feel the. Leave it alone

H&R springs are only a .75" drop. The stock shocks are fine with that. Of course they will be stiff as they are shorter and they increased the spring rate to keep you from bottoming out.

I have H&R coilovers. They are a stiffer ride but the car drives great. It also looks killer dropped on the right wheels/tires.

KWv3's will give you the best ride and they are the most expensive option.

Our cars have NO stock camber adjustment and camber bolts don't help a lot. So be ready to run a decent amount of camber. As for pulling right on springs only it seems to be hit or miss. On my coil overs I put my car on scales and adjusted the springs for even weight distribution. It drives perfectly straight lowered.

Food for though.
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Originally Posted by Eric ATP
Our cars have NO stock camber adjustment and camber bolts don't help a lot. So be ready to run a decent amount of camber.

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Old 09-16-2015, 10:07 AM
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I run H&R on my 63 with stock shocks no issues the ride is a lot better than stock, much more responsive and the tail feels planted not as much body roll going on. I would recommend putting in the taller spring spacers from Mercedes in the rear it makes the stance look better

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