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Old 11-08-2015, 08:10 PM
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^Check the first post
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^Check the first post
The first post without the torque numbers they are requesting?
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A 71MB animated rendering of the Hammer supercharger...

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...nrc_asm.55.avi


And some images.
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I don't know about anyone else, but I could give a **** what it looks like. Where are the 1/4 mile times.
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Originally Posted by Southways
A 71MB animated rendering of the Hammer supercharger...

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...nrc_asm.55.avi


And some images.
looks good Ken

When are you going to do some testing at the track??
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Very nice runners as expected. It appears the lower manifold section is one piece including the supercharger? Very nice piece of engineering...
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Originally Posted by Southways
A 71MB animated rendering of the Hammer supercharger...

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...nrc_asm.55.avi


And some images.

no torque numbers for the superchargers to post yet?
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Very nice.
When will they be available?
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Originally Posted by BLKROKT
I don't know about anyone else, but I could give a **** what it looks like. Where are the 1/4 mile times.
We build superchargers, not race cars.
However, we have a couple of the early-release kits intended for customers that regularly run 1/4 miles.

Originally Posted by mr747
looks good Ken. When are you going to do some testing at the track??
We have done testing on circuit tracks - that's the track medium that we find best verifies durability & sustained load.

Originally Posted by HYPERTUNE
Very nice runners as expected. It appears the lower manifold section is one piece including the supercharger? Very nice piece of engineering...
Thank you. Yes, the Housing-manifold is integral.

Originally Posted by iShootYou
no torque numbers for the superchargers to post yet?
We will ... These units have been run on several independent dynos on two continents and we want to aggregate them & show multiple vehicle results. More data available shortly.

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Very nice.
When will they be available?
Available in limited numbers during December.
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I don't understand the delay in getting dyno numbers. If OE Tuning did the calibration they will have dyno's. Assuming they were done on the same machine they use for other cars there will be plenty to compare them to as well.
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South ways, no offense but it seems like your dodging 1/4 mile questions. Have there been any 1/4 mile tests? No doubt this kit will propel c63s into the 10s with ease, some of us would really love to see figures.

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I will be patient because 1/4 times have a lot of variables I just want to see a real dyno graph
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I will be patient because 1/4 times have a lot of variables I just want to see a real dyno graph
I agree 1/4 mile times introduce to many variables. Since OE tuning did the calibration we can compare the results to other cars they have done on the same dyno. Should be easy to measure delta's of other known setups.

The 20C temp with 2.24 correction factor seems odd. I am not sure I understand how that works. Right around 75 degrees F correction is zero. Colder temps get .xx and warmer gets x.xx correction factors.

If it delivers 500-525 WHP with stock exhaust in SMOG legal configuration on OE Tuning's dyno with Jeremy's stamp of validation I'll be all over it.

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Originally Posted by E55Madness
I don't understand the delay in getting dyno numbers. If OE Tuning did the calibration they will have dyno's. Assuming they were done on the same machine they use for other cars there will be plenty to compare them to as well.
Originally Posted by iShootYou
I will be patient because 1/4 times have a lot of variables I just want to see a real dyno graph
Data is being collated. It will be posted when verified.

Originally Posted by RNS-11Z
South ways, no offense but it seems like your dodging 1/4 mile questions. Have there been any 1/4 mile tests? No doubt this kit will propel c63s into the 10s with ease, some of us would really love to see figures.
Thanks
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Definitely not avoiding the question - answered in post #10.
"We have not run quarter-miles ...we all know that impressive 1/4m's is as much about the car setup/tyres/day as the power/torque delivery."


Originally Posted by E55Madness
I agree 1/4 mile times introduce to many variables. Since OE tuning did the calibration we can compare the results to other cars they have done on the same dyno. Should be easy to measure delta's of other known setups. The 20C temp with 2.24 correction factor seems odd. I am not sure I understand how that works. Right around 75 degrees F correction is zero. Colder temps get .xx and warmer gets x.xx correction factors. If it delivers 500-525 WHP with stock exhaust in SMOG legal configuration on OE Tuning's dyno with Jeremy's stamp of validation I'll be all over it.
Screen shot from OETuning's dyno during development. We have not yet had this dyno's calibration independently verified (unlike the previous posts).
Attached Thumbnails Magnuson "Hammers" the AMG C63-151015a_dynonumbers.jpg  

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Old 11-14-2015, 02:38 AM
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Only one way to test it out. Someone slam down the cash and bolt it on.

Like he said, they build blowers not race cars, it's not their responsibility to supply drag times.
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Originally Posted by E55Madness
I agree 1/4 mile times introduce to many variables. Since OE tuning did the calibration we can compare the results to other cars they have done on the same dyno. Should be easy to measure delta's of other known setups.

The 20C temp with 2.24 correction factor seems odd. I am not sure I understand how that works. Right around 75 degrees F correction is zero. Colder temps get .xx and warmer gets x.xx correction factors.

If it delivers 500-525 WHP with stock exhaust in SMOG legal configuration on OE Tuning's dyno with Jeremy's stamp of validation I'll be all over it.
not worth the money if its only going to push 500-525 whp ...theres C63s including mine that run pretty close to 500whp w/o a supercharger or headers..im pretty sure Kriston's c63 is almost pushing 500whp with headers on the east coast which is pretty impressive.
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Almost 500rwhp without headers, lol good one. Most header cars are around 460-480rwhp and that's at sea level. Guys not at sea level won't even see close to that. The blower will help guys at elevation tons and it does it carb approved.

Anyone doing a blower needs headers without a doubt.
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This kit is awesome. The base kit might make 525whp but im sure they will have some pulley upgrades for those of you who want to push the limit. I'm sure that the blower could handle 20psi.
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Almost 500rwhp without headers, lol good one. Most header cars are around 460-480rwhp and that's at sea level. Guys not at sea level won't even see close to that. The blower will help guys at elevation tons and it does it carb approved.

Anyone doing a blower needs headers without a doubt.
theres several posts of guys with a EC V5 tune only, nothing else, and they dyno like 550-570hp on crank on EC's dyno too, so probably 450-460whp (i highly doubt the c63 has more then a 20%+ loss) ..throw on row boxes, some exhaust work, pulley, throttle body etc etc (probably not legal though..like you said..this blower is carb approved)..500whp isnt that far away w/o headers if you're at sea level ..but yeah theres videos of c63s in Alberta getting spanked by stock evos ...but again as its been said before 100's of times, dynos aren't to be taken seriously, 1/4 times are.

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500 whp Dyno Jet = 435 whp Uncorrected Dyno Dynamics

People need to be real clear on this when talking dyno numbers. There is also a correction factor people use on a Dyno Dynamics that is NOT constant from shop to shop. I'm actually surprised no one has bought it yet. I know some of you guys have big bucks.

A C63 tire and suspension setup is going to be pretty generic. Your either on drag radials or not. DA of the track would be the difference maker.
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1/4 mile mph is usually what it is, adjusting for DA. Sure, ET can vary. But mph can tell you a lot more anyway.
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^ I agree, mph is king. Also taking Da into consideration. You can easily correct mph to sea level once you have your run.

550-570hp on a tune only come on. That's a verrrrry happy dyno
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theres several posts of guys with a EC V5 tune only, nothing else, and they dyno like 550-570hp on crank on EC's dyno too, so probably 450-460whp (i highly doubt the c63 has more then a 20%+ loss) ..throw on row boxes, some exhaust work, pulley, throttle body etc etc (probably not legal though..like you said..this blower is carb approved)..500whp isnt that far away w/o headers if you're at sea level ..but yeah theres videos of c63s in Alberta getting spanked by stock evos ...but again as its been said before 100's of times, dynos aren't to be taken seriously, 1/4 times are.
I'm in Alberta and I annihilate Evos buddy has one with larger turbo straight piped exhaust and I still beat him. Maybe if your roll racing in 7th?
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I'm in Alberta and I annihilate Evos buddy has one with larger turbo straight piped exhaust and I still beat him. Maybe if your roll racing in 7th?
Probably just granny shifting not double clutching like he should...


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