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Old 03-17-2016, 05:04 PM
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MBH LTH/Mids/X-pipe + Evotech Tune Results

Recently had MBH long tube headers, MBH mid section and MBH x-pipe installed and custom road tuned with evotech on 91oct. Prior mods are ROW with aFe dry filters. The results were 485whp and 444wtrq on a dyno jet.






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sounds like some good numbers! have you had a baseline done?

I have LTH + ROW going in next week along with a retune. I didnt have an untuned baseline taken but tuned with just x pipe and charcoal delete made 416/394, so I am expecting my gains to put me in a similar ballpark to you.
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I did actually. Here's a base run along with the previous mods and a eurocharged v5 canned tune. Maybe hard to read but base is 380/374 and after is 448/409


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Out of curiosity, why the change away from Eurocharged tune to the Evotech?
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105whp at the end of the day. Dang I need headers.

Good stuff, and I see the wheels haven't moved yet. At least they look great!
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Out of curiosity, why the change away from Eurocharged tune to the Evotech?
Evotech has a local dealer that guaranteed I would pass my yearly emissions with their tune for my headers. Also a custom road tune is the best tune.
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105whp at the end of the day. Dang I need headers.

Good stuff, and I see the wheels haven't moved yet. At least they look great!
I have a video for each of the runs I did. Any way to post them on this thread directly?
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I have a video for each of the runs I did. Any way to post them on this thread directly?
You have a YouTube account? I'd just upload there and then post links.
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Originally Posted by Mag1c Carp3t
Evotech has a local dealer that guaranteed I would pass my yearly emissions with their tune for my headers. Also a custom road tune is the best tune.
Where's your emissions because decatted lths ain't passing emissions
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Where's your emissions because decatted lths ain't passing emissions
Arizona obd2. It shows as not supported. The shop has done several c63 and has a personal bi turbo decatted. All passing emissions.
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Very nice. You ever go to the pavillions? Would love to check out your car someday.
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Very nice results. That is almost identical to the set up I am running except I have race cats in the mids and running EC V5 tune. Enjoy!
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I might do another dyno run to see what my new MBH resonator deletes do paired with step colder plugs from weistec. Also with fresh oil this time.

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Originally Posted by dlefty
Out of curiosity, why the change away from Eurocharged tune to the Evotech?
EC header tune run on the richer side. There are a few members, including myself that have switched tunes.
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EC V5 tune runs pig rich, I inquired about having it leaned out, but got denied. I will possibly try OE tuning this year.
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Originally Posted by dubzAMG
EC V5 tune runs pig rich, I inquired about having it leaned out, but got denied. I will possibly try OE tuning this year.
Im thinking the same thing...
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Some nice big gains there from the headers and tune.
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Huge gains....just goes to show that a bespoke tune is the way to go. Nearly every car that's made this kind of power from just headers, had a custom tune.
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Originally Posted by I am Jeff
EC header tune run on the richer side. There are a few members, including myself that have switched tunes.
Who did you switch to?
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Interesting.

Can anybody show a before and after dyno of EvoTech vs Eurocharged?

I've got EC V5 right now, it came with the car.
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Originally Posted by Phil Chow
Interesting.

Can anybody show a before and after dyno of EvoTech vs Eurocharged?

I've got EC V5 right now, it came with the car.
Not sure how I missed this. Evotech seems to be very uncommon here. So I guess the before headers with EC tune chart and the headers with evo tune chart are the only comparisons.
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That's great power output for a no-charger engine. Liked it!

Let me drop a very NOOB question here: can I go with MBH/MHP or any other nice brand header and a iPE valvetronic catback with no trouble? Sorry to deviate your thread.

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Jeez.... so looking back at this thread, my reading is that you gained ~40whp just switching from the canned EC V5 to the Evotech dyno tune, everything else the same (headers, ROW, etc etc)? Did you test back-to-back on the same dyno same day, or were they done at different times?

Have you had a chance to look at your AFRs at WOT?
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Jeez.... so looking back at this thread, my reading is that you gained ~40whp just switching from the canned EC V5 to the Evotech dyno tune, everything else the same (headers, ROW, etc etc)? Did you test back-to-back on the same dyno same day, or were they done at different times?

Have you had a chance to look at your AFRs at WOT?
I need to change my tune! 380 whp stock. 425 whp tune only. 447 whp with headers/v5. I see black some sometimes under WOT with my catless headers. I know there has to be more left in this motor. It's the tune. And I'm still on 93 octane. Time to research tunes or places in california fo custom tune.
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This isn't apples to apples, but with my previous E55 I had a shelf box tune from EC and then did a custom dyno tune with EC. I made 37rwhp more with the dyno tune. And I told EC to be as conservative as possible, yet it still made a good bit more power.

Every tune and every car is different on the dyno, but a custom tune on the dyno gives the tuner more opportunity to tune the car to the motor's liking.


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I bet if you went back to EC and did a dyno tune, you'd see similar results as you did jumping to the Evotech. Nothing beats a dyno tune. Period.
I still have a couple years before my warranty is up, so plenty of researching and thinking to do for headers/dyno tune setup I want after it's up.


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