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Old 12-10-2016, 03:29 PM
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W204 C63 vs. W212 E63

Having a really tough time making a decision on which to pick from between the W204 C63 and the W212 E63. I do think both are incredible and I've read a previous forum post on the matter but I think it's a bit outdated now. Looking to buy the car used and it's near impossible in my country (South Africa) to find either with under 100k kms (62k miles) on the odometer.

The C63 is ranging in price here from around $25000 to $29000 for the lowest on sale currently and prices increase due to mileage and whether the Performance Pack is present or not. The auctions currently on and that I'm looking at are for 2008 models and the rare 2009. I have a personal preference towards the C63 because of the monstrous exhaust note and the less "Retired Doctor" kind of feel and look.

The E63 that I'm looking at also has 117k kms ( 72.7k miles) on the clock and is up for $26,800 for a 2010 model, so the 6.2L V8 Naturally Aspirated. There are no doubt the E63 is an incredible machine and since we own a 2010 E200, the interior is a wonderful place to be.

Having a really hard time deciding so something I could decide is to ask the experts.
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The E is definitely in a higher class. As for exhaust note,you can always get a aftermarket exhaust.
with those milieage, i would cheack their respective head bolt if has been fixed or not.
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I feel like I can comment greatly on this, as I own both these vehicles and drive them on a daily basis. 2009 C63 and a 2010 E63.

They are both two different vehicles (as you already know), so it really comes down to what driving style you're looking for.

C63 is way more fun to drive, handling and acceleration is better, I use it more for daily errands and run around town.
E63 is more classy and is what I normally would take for a night out, the golf range or vacation.

A big thing for me is that the options in the E63 is far better than a loaded C63
There are some things that you just can't even get in a C63
-MCT transmission, race start
-bluetooth audio streaming
-phone book download
-cooling seats
-two piece front brake rotors
-keyless go

Best bang for your buck, hands down it's the E63.
BUT I LOVE driving the C63 over the E63, the main reason I still have it

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That's a great point there, the potential is still there on the E63. I'll be sure to ask the dealer to do a through check-up, Thanks.
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I feel like I can comment greatly on this, as I own both these vehicles and drive them on a daily basis. 2009 C63 and a 2010 E63.

They are both two different vehicles (as you already know), so it really comes down to what driving style you're looking for.

C63 is way more fun to drive, handling and acceleration is better, I use it more for daily errands and run around town.
E63 is more classy and is what I normally would take for a night out, the golf range or vacation.

A big thing for me is that the options in the E63 is far better than a loaded C63
There are some things that you just can't even get in a C63
-dual clutch transmission, race start
-bluetooth audio streaming
-phone book download
-cooling seats
-two piece front brake rotors
-keyless go

Best bang for your buck, hands down it's the E63.
BUT I LOVE driving the C63 over the E63, the main reason I still have it
I think I couldn't have asked for a better perspective, thank you. Definitely the E class is the better option in terms of options, also the specific one I'm looking at has the Harmon Kardon sound system which is a huge up. The MCT instead of the 7G is also a great point. Driving preference will always come down to the individual and coming from an owner of both it's keenly noted that you prefer driving the C63. The E63 though is now looking a neck ahead in my choice.
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There are some things that you just can't even get in a C63
-dual clutch transmission, race start
No DCT in E63. Same MCT as later MY C63.
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Originally Posted by ricecooker713
A big thing for me is that the options in the E63 is far better than a loaded C63
There are some things that you just can't even get in a C63
-dual clutch transmission, race start
-two piece front brake rotors
-keyless go
W212 E63 has the MCT (same as facelifted C63) and it isn't a dual clutch...it's a single wet clutch.

Two piece rotors were available as an option on the C63 (and 1.5 piece for the facelifted cars)

Keyless go also available although I'm not sure of the start year

E63 is definitely the better car (especially compared to a preface lift C63) and is a step up. Really it comes down to whether you want the larger car or not.
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Originally Posted by AsimBhatti
Having a really tough time making a decision on which to pick from between the W204 C63 and the W212 E63. I do think both are incredible and I've read a previous forum post on the matter but I think it's a bit outdated now. Looking to buy the car used and it's near impossible in my country (South Africa) to find either with under 100k kms (62k miles) on the odometer.

The C63 is ranging in price here from around $25000 to $29000 for the lowest on sale currently and prices increase due to mileage and whether the Performance Pack is present or not. The auctions currently on and that I'm looking at are for 2008 models and the rare 2009. I have a personal preference towards the C63 because of the monstrous exhaust note and the less "Retired Doctor" kind of feel and look.

The E63 that I'm looking at also has 117k kms ( 72.7k miles) on the clock and is up for $26,800 for a 2010 model, so the 6.2L V8 Naturally Aspirated. There are no doubt the E63 is an incredible machine and since we own a 2010 E200, the interior is a wonderful place to be.

Having a really hard time deciding so something I could decide is to ask the experts.
As you noted finish is higher in the E 63 but it is heavier than the C63 so maybe handling and performance will suffer.
Any chance you can drive both before you get into it?
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No DCT in E63. Same MCT as later MY C63.
You're correct, my fault

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W212 E63 has the MCT (same as facelifted C63) and it isn't a dual clutch...it's a single wet clutch.

Two piece rotors were available as an option on the C63 (and 1.5 piece for the facelifted cars)

Keyless go also available although I'm not sure of the start year

E63 is definitely the better car (especially compared to a preface lift C63) and is a step up. Really it comes down to whether you want the larger car or not.
If he was looking into a P30 packaged C63, than yes, two piece rotors. The two piece rotors comes standard on a E63.
I think Keyless go is available for MY10, but the OP is looking at 08-09s.

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my 08 C63 has keyless go.

but like whats mentioned above. both are GREAT cars but E63 is a higher class wherever and however you look at it. if price is not a big jump, ill go for the E.

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I think it would come down to the styling and how each drive. Test drive each and see. Get pictures of each at different angles with the exact color/options you want and see which one you like better. I have heard that members with both cars enjoy the C63 due to the rawness and it's fun to drive but they also extremely love the E63.
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Originally Posted by ricecooker713
I feel like I can comment greatly on this, as I own both these vehicles and drive them on a daily basis. 2009 C63 and a 2010 E63.

They are both two different vehicles (as you already know), so it really comes down to what driving style you're looking for.

C63 is way more fun to drive, handling and acceleration is better, I use it more for daily errands and run around town.
E63 is more classy and is what I normally would take for a night out, the golf range or vacation.

A big thing for me is that the options in the E63 is far better than a loaded C63
There are some things that you just can't even get in a C63
-MCT transmission, race start
-bluetooth audio streaming
-phone book download
-cooling seats
-two piece front brake rotors
-keyless go

Best bang for your buck, hands down it's the E63.
BUT I LOVE driving the C63 over the E63, the main reason I still have it
Not to nitpick, but that may not apply to facelifted C63's. My 2013 P31 has the MCT trans, bluetooth audio streaming, phone book download (*I believe, haven't tried it yet), the two piece rotors, and keyless go.

As for the actual question, I was originally shopping for an E63S before I got my C63. After doing a ton of research, the C63 was a better fit for me. It's much more aggressive in every way and a lot smaller overall which makes it feel much more nimble. The interior feels pretty much exactly the same IMO (2013 C63 vs 2014 E63)

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Not to nitpick, but that may not apply to facelifted C63's. My 2013 P31 has the MCT trans, bluetooth audio streaming, phone book download (*I believe, haven't tried it yet), the two piece rotors, and keyless go.

As for the actual question, I was originally shopping for an E63S before I got my C63. After doing a ton of research, the C63 was a better fit for me. It's much more aggressive in every way and a lot smaller overall which makes it feel much more nimble. The interior feels pretty much exactly the same IMO (2013 C63 vs 2014 E63)
None of which you listed (besides two piece rotors on a p30) comes on a 08-09 in the US.
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'10 and '11 E63 has true 2 piece brakes, but there is no way you can buy just the rotors. Yup, that means you will have to buy the whole thing and toss out the hats from before, so there is no cost saving. It's better just to replace the oem with Girodisc when worn out.

The current W212 E63 also has airmatic just for the rear, which is both a positive and negative depending on how you look at it. I see airmatic as a negative because it is problematic. BTW, the new W213 will having airmatic all around...I see that as doubling the headache.
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Originally Posted by jsbzoh6
As for the actual question, I was originally shopping for an E63S before I got my C63. After doing a ton of research, the C63 was a better fit for me. It's much more aggressive in every way and a lot smaller overall which makes it feel much more nimble. The interior feels pretty much exactly the same IMO (2013 C63 vs 2014 E63)
The interior is night and day between the two. The c63 is all plastic such as the dash / doors where the E63 is completely wrapped in stitched leather. Not to mention things like ambient lighting and what not. So, while you may not see the difference, there are big ones.

And that doesn't even address the heated or cooled massaging seats or the dynamic bolsters so if you don't want to be in a cocoon 100% of the time you don't have to be, but if you want to take the corners the bolsters will tighten/extend depending on the direction of the corner you're taking. That can also be just turned off.

The center console is also quite different with a better looking shift knob (opinion of course) but I also like all of the buttons to the left of the knob (suspension, amg setting, traction control) in addition to the dial you get.

Also, the temperature control area is completely different and instead of spinning plastic dials you get solid levers among other little touches.


Here's a pic that does a good job of showing all that. Notice the stitching on the door inserts, center console arm rest, and then the top of the dash and display surround is completely wrapped in leather.

W204 C63 vs. W212 E63-2014-mercedes-benz-e63-amg-4matic-wagon-interior_zpshb72tzym.jpg

Still has the stupid ****ing plastic door pins though


The c63 definitely feels more sporty and more like a toy, no doubts there.
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Also, the temperature control area is completely different and instead of spinning plastic dials you get solid levers among other little touches.

The top of the dash and display surround is completely wrapped in leather.
Double edged sword with the temperature control levers. It's difficult to change to a temperature as quickly as a turn of the wrist and there has been complaints from E-class owners about that. At the same time, look and function is both subject as the rotary temperature dial is also found in the CLS class.

I think there might be an option to spec the dash in leather. However, most of them are actually MBTex. I prefer MBTex especially for the sun-exposed areas because I don't think I would want to deal with shrinking of leather and other problems like that. I'm mostly a low maintenance kind of person.
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Double edged sword with the temperature control levers. It's difficult to change to a temperature as quickly as a turn of the wrist and there has been complaints from E-class owners about that. At the same time, look and function is both subject as the rotary temperature dial is also found in the CLS class.

I think there might be an option to spec the dash in leather. However, most of them are actually MBTex. I prefer MBTex especially for the sun-exposed areas because I don't think I would want to deal with shrinking of leather and other problems like that. I'm mostly a low maintenance kind of person.
Again, while some things are a matter of taste there are definitely differences in the interior, even if subtle. As for the complaints of not having a dial to quickly change the temp... Maybe there are legitimate complaints, maybe there aren't. But for those who complain about that... just wow.

How often do you adjust the temp in the car? Some people maybe once or twice a trip (get the car warmed up and then cool off when you're hot or vice versa) or people like me that touch it maybe a dozen times in a year.

I agree and accept that a lot of these touches can be argued to be minor except for maybe the dash, and obviously it comes down to preference. But when I see w204 c63 interior basically the same as w212 e63 interior my mind goes to "Well that's like saying a Camry has basically the same interior as a w204 c63 aside from minor touches."

At the end of the day they are two different cars with two different purposes though.

OP -- I'm in a w212 e63s now coming from 2 c63's. I love the e63s but I do admit at times it feels like something is missing. You guys will call me crazy but I wouldn't bet against me getting a 3rd c63 in the future.

If I absolutely had to choose between the two I'd take the w212 e63.
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I was considering getting a used e63 vs the c63 but the price difference was huge. Also there were only a few available.
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Again, while some things are a matter of taste there are definitely differences in the interior, even if subtle. As for the complaints of not having a dial to quickly change the temp... Maybe there are legitimate complaints, maybe there aren't. But for those who complain about that... just wow.

How often do you adjust the temp in the car? Some people maybe once or twice a trip (get the car warmed up and then cool off when you're hot or vice versa) or people like me that touch it maybe a dozen times in a year.

I agree and accept that a lot of these touches can be argued to be minor except for maybe the dash, and obviously it comes down to preference. But when I see w204 c63 interior basically the same as w212 e63 interior my mind goes to "Well that's like saying a Camry has basically the same interior as a w204 c63 aside from minor touches."

At the end of the day they are two different cars with two different purposes though.

OP -- I'm in a w212 e63s now coming from 2 c63's. I love the e63s but I do admit at times it feels like something is missing. You guys will call me crazy but I wouldn't bet against me getting a 3rd c63 in the future.

If I absolutely had to choose between the two I'd take the w212 e63.
Having had a W212 E wagon for 4 yr I have to say that I see the interior of my C63 as being as good as that car albeit because of the interior options when it was built.
That said I have never driven an E63 W212 but my guess is that the differences between a W212 E350 and a E63 of the same vintage will be in an order magnitude as between a W204 and a W204 C63.
I like the W204 C63 more than the E350 wagon because it is more nimble albeit smaller in the rear seating area. That said I would not turn my back on an E63 either.
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Oh man. An E63 wagon would be amazeballs. I wish we could get the C63 wagon.
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Oh man. An E63 wagon would be amazeballs. I wish we could get the C63 wagon.
Amen brother. My guess is we will never see a C wagon in NA again. They just did not sell any time they brought them in at least in Canada.
As to an E63 wagon, MBUSA did offer it in 2016 5.5L V8 Biturbo 577 hp and 4Matic as I recall.
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^^yeah. I just don't have $100k to spend on a car.
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It depends on what you want it for. As a comfortable high speed cruiser, the E63 is the way to go.
But if you are looking for a fun nimble toy, then the C63 is the way to go. It is such a blast to drive.
Also, for the price of a E63, could you not get a facelifted C63. The interior on the face lifted C63 is much better.

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