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C63sc 01-09-2017 04:32 PM

From stock c63 to 800HP
 
Good day everyone, this is my first post in the form and I know it will be very interesting as I just beaten a Mclaren 650s and a moded Ferrari FF with my c63.

Like every other street racers we all are eager for more power and we will never be satisfied.
Let share my story and how far I have gone. I started with a Full IPE system for a yearlong then I decided to go for pp-performance tune along with BMC air filter.

Phase 1
Cart mods:
IPE full system
BMC air filter
PP-performance tune

Stock: 366whp
Mods: 466WHP/477RWTQ


Here in the middle east people are craving to race in the streets as we have huge roads with no pigs hovering around. I have raced an SRT8 with stroked engine 7.0L cams, ported heads and manifold. The guy got smoked easy (2nd gear hit rev limiter)

https://www.instagram.com/p/BLCarH-DRL4/?taken-by=c63sc

Later on I decided to go for a blower so I contacted WEISTEC for stage 2 as I was afraid to get stage 3 because it also requires the tranny upgrade as well.
I installed the blower myself at home with a help of a colleague. We had some minor issues but everything got fixed later on, we found that the MAP sensor extension cable was not tighten enough and I had all sorts of awkwardness when I put my foot on the gas.

Phase 2
Car mods:
IPE full system
BMC air filter
Stage 2 supercharger
Ice tank
Air/oil separator
WEISTEC spark plugs

Stock: 366WHP
Mods: 543WHP/ i don’t recall the WTQ

Guess what? I was shocked somehow as I was expecting much more power of what I felt inside the car.
I squeezed my mind on how to make extra power out of the same blower, so I decided to fabricate a smaller pulley as weistec are not offering any smaller size pulleys on stage 2.
I went from 57mm pulley to 50mm, car jumped from 543 to 577whp.
Still not satisfied yet!!!



Phase 3
Car mods:
IPE full system
BMC air filter
Stage 2 supercharger (50mm pulley)
Ice tank
Air/oil separator
WEISTEC spark plugs
Snowperformance stage 2 methanol kit
Boostane

Stock: 366WHP
Mods: 608WHP/575RWTQ

https://www.instagram.com/p/BLQNNpcDyN0/?taken-by=c63sc

Yaaa buddddyyyyyh, now we are talking, I was happy that I broke the 600whp boundaries. Car made 608WHP with 9psi , no tune was done on methanol or boostane. The stock tranny was holding all the power with no issues at all.
I drove the car for 2 months and then decided to go bigger ! yep I upgraded mine to stage 3 (gonnna fly)

I had to take the car to a shop to do the threads on the crank pulley for stage 3, I had to take the whole engine out so they can do it perfectly. First impression on stage 3 comparing to stage 2 was not promising as I was already in the 600 range. Boost was reading 10psi on stage 3 with the 67mm pulley.

I didn’t dyno the car on the stock pulley 67mm for stage 3, but I felt the tranny was NOT holding the power properly, I feel lag in shifting between gears. I knew by this that the car was making more power than what it had earlier.
A friend of mine decided to go for 60mm pulley on his s63 with same mods (bolt on meth etc…) we were afraid that the stock engine will not hold the power as we have poor gasoline quality in the middle east RON95. I raced couple cars then I was like “ lets try the 60mm pulley.”

Power level is SATISFYING!!!

Phase 4
IPE full system
BMC air filter
Stage 3 supercharger (60mm pulley)
Ice tank
Air/oil separator
WEISTEC spark plugs
Snowperformance stage 2 methanol kit
Boostane
Recaro seats 12kg for both front seats

Stock: 366WHP
Mods 60mm pulley: 651WHP/ 585RWTQ (tune was done on the 67mm pulley & tranny is slipping on the dyno & no meth was sprayed)

https://www.instagram.com/p/BOvK8A4DXnx/?taken-by=c63sc

I have done all the talking above lets watch some vids.

C63 VS Mclaren 650s

https://www.instagram.com/p/BOi3SwBDgDe/?taken-by=c63sc

C63 VS Ferrari FF (full exhaust system)

https://www.instagram.com/p/BOlIL91DaJr/?taken-by=c63sc

C63 VS Lambo Huracan (race fuel)
https://www.instagram.com/p/BOyBqGXhz9e/?taken-by=c63sc

C63 VS Mustang Roush Stage 3
https://www.instagram.com/p/BOjqXpEDCIU/?taken-by=c63sc

and more vids are in my IG: @C63sc :D

Problems:
My tranny couldn’t hold the power for stage 3 60mm pulley, after racing for 20 times I noticed the 4th and 5th gear slightly slipping, I also have a problem with boost which I had earlier on stage 2 and stage 3 now.
Boost only reads 5psi then suddenly it jumps to full boost. When I race, I had to start before the third honk so I can get full boost once they slam the gas.
Any suggestion to fix boost?

https://www.instagram.com/p/BO_f0IwhTJS/?taken-by=c63sc

Future plans:
I will be porting my heads and will be doing 3 angle cnc porting for the valves. Stay tuned am waiting for the tranny to arrive so I can travel to Kuwait for the cnc job as they do vacuum testing for the head and valves after they complete the work.

Stay tuned!!
I will be posting updates make sure you subscribe

mr747 01-09-2017 05:32 PM

beast bud :) and welcome

beaststunt 01-09-2017 05:43 PM

That is one serious car ,what a monster, you have to be blowing these supercar owners minds when you beat them

CarHopper 01-09-2017 06:44 PM

I like these c63's builds/projects that have been popping up here... Good stuff

MB Marko 01-09-2017 07:03 PM

:popcorn:

Schulminator 01-10-2017 10:09 AM

Great build, nice vids!! Laying it down on some high end cars. Keep us updated on your progress.

chrisridebike8 01-10-2017 10:57 AM

Great car and vids! I think the most suprising one was the Lambo. Just race gas and a tune and that thing was a beast!

CarHopper 01-10-2017 11:06 AM

10 points for waving at the FF. Buhhhh bye.

But man I want a Huracan.

Slow_c63 01-10-2017 11:08 AM

Thanks for sharing this.

INS1GNIA 01-10-2017 01:34 PM

Very cool and great work done the the C63. Welcome and look forward to future posts!

Also, this is how you should post for the first time. :y

Savage-wp 01-10-2017 02:16 PM

Your car is seriously strong. Nice one.
Welcome to the forums.

AdonisVA 01-11-2017 08:33 AM

This has made my HUMP DAY!

LondonFOB 01-11-2017 10:56 AM

amazing build

jay rick 01-11-2017 11:47 AM

It sure is an amazing built.
But it took almost 300 whp to beat them, im kinda dissapoited, specially how good the mclaren kept up.

mvp2765 01-11-2017 11:50 AM

nice work!!

beaststunt 01-11-2017 12:17 PM


Originally Posted by jay rick (Post 7021732)
It sure is an amazing built.
But it took almost 300 whp to beat them, im kinda dissapoited, specially how good the mclaren kept up.

I'll bet you the price of the c63 with all these mods doesn't even come close to mclaren money if you ask me it's a total win taking down such a supercar

Slow_c63 01-11-2017 12:31 PM


Originally Posted by jay rick (Post 7021732)
It sure is an amazing built.
But it took almost 300 whp to beat them, im kinda dissapoited, specially how good the mclaren kept up.

If we are comparing cost of both cars, including mods, AMG won in my book and was very satisfying. Not disappointed at all.

It doesn't seem like his car is dialed in correctly. I'm sure once he dials it in, fixes the transmission issue and correctly builds boost, the mclaren will be a walk in the park.

quaalude 01-11-2017 12:50 PM

Very nice build! Are you still running stock internals?

C63sc 01-11-2017 02:19 PM


Originally Posted by quaalude (Post 7021823)
Very nice build! Are you still running stock internals?

Yep still on stock internals 😌 Am getting chiller killer as well to keep my IAT as cool as possible to avoid any risk of overheating.

C63sc 01-11-2017 02:21 PM


Originally Posted by Slow_c63 (Post 7021780)
If we are comparing cost of both cars, including mods, AMG won in my book and was very satisfying. Not disappointed at all.

It doesn't seem like his car is dialed in correctly. I'm sure once he dials it in, fixes the transmission issue and correctly builds boost, the mclaren will be a walk in the park.


If you listen carfelly in the vids, in all races i had slipping issue in the transmission. If i get this fixed, trust me it will impress u

Adi-Benz 01-11-2017 02:24 PM

Awesome welcome!

Diabolis 01-11-2017 02:58 PM

It absolutely is an amazing build! It's just too bad that at the rate you're going you're likely going to die before the age of 30, and even worse that you could easily kill someone else that had nothign to do with your idiotic choice to race on public roads. Is there someone that you would like us top notify when you receive the Darwin award?

:crazy:

BLKROKT 01-11-2017 03:02 PM


Originally Posted by Diabolis (Post 7021975)
It absolutely is an amazing build! It's just too bad that at the rate you're going you're likely going to die before the age of 30, and even worse that you could easily kill someone else that had nothign to do with your idiotic choice to race on public roads. Is there someone that you would like us top notify when you receive the Darwin award?

:crazy:

I think notifications get sent to this guy: https://mbworld.org/forums/c63-amg-w...ight=king+york

Adi-Benz 01-11-2017 03:33 PM

He used boostane

s.e.a.n. 01-11-2017 03:53 PM

Follow you on IG.

Your car runs extremely well.


Originally Posted by Diabolis (Post 7021975)
It absolutely is an amazing build! It's just too bad that at the rate you're going you're likely going to die before the age of 30, and even worse that you could easily kill someone else that had nothign to do with your idiotic choice to race on public roads. Is there someone that you would like us top notify when you receive the Darwin award?

:crazy:

We all gonna die some day

Diabolis 01-11-2017 04:20 PM


Originally Posted by s.e.a.n. (Post 7022047)
We all gonna die some day

Absolutely... it's just that most of us won't take innocent lives with us.

BAD430BENZ 01-11-2017 06:07 PM


Originally Posted by Diabolis (Post 7022087)
Absolutely... it's just that most of us won't take innocent lives with us.

So you are telling me with the list of cars you have , you have never done any spirited driving ? The videos I saw show them racing each other side by side and I didn't see any weaving in and out of traffic . I'm 41 years old and finally got my dream car , Ferrari 360 Twin Turbo , and I wouldn't race through traffic but I sure as hell jump on the throttle when I get an open spot .

Slow_c63 01-11-2017 06:48 PM


Originally Posted by C63sc (Post 7021932)
If you listen carfelly in the vids, in all races i had slipping issue in the transmission. If i get this fixed, trust me it will impress u

I'm already impressed, very impressed. The fact that you're doing what some of us daydream about, is enough to impress the crowd in my book. Again, sick car and we can't wait for updates with build motor, transmission and hopefully your boost issue out of the way. :y



Originally Posted by Diabolis (Post 7021975)
It absolutely is an amazing build! It's just too bad that at the rate you're going you're likely going to die before the age of 30, and even worse that you could easily kill someone else that had nothign to do with your idiotic choice to race on public roads. Is there someone that you would like us top notify when you receive the Darwin award?

:crazy:

As much as I want to agree with you, I think that you're overreacting a bit, no? What's next, don't ride a bike because you might fall over and break your neck? You're a thief of joy, my friend.

tpliquid 01-11-2017 07:08 PM

some people do it as safe as they can some people just go 100% everytime traffic no traffic city driving residential .

like dis if u cry everytim

Johnnie58 01-11-2017 11:50 PM

While saftey is important yes , let's get back on topic maybe pm the saftey message

sweet motor man that thing halls ass

Diabolis 01-12-2017 11:12 AM


Originally Posted by BAD430BENZ (Post 7022207)
So you are telling me with the list of cars you have , you have never done any spirited driving ? The videos I saw show them racing each other side by side and I didn't see any weaving in and out of traffic . I'm 41 years old and finally got my dream car , Ferrari 360 Twin Turbo , and I wouldn't race through traffic but I sure as hell jump on the throttle when I get an open spot .


Originally Posted by Slow_c63 (Post 7022255)
As much as I want to agree with you, I think that you're overreacting a bit, no? What's next, don't ride a bike because you might fall over and break your neck? You're a thief of joy, my friend.

Hell no... I actually race cars - but those are risks that I and ALL other participans in the sport willingly assume (and furthermore the environment of a racetrack and the various safety equipment for the driver are such that it minimizes the potential of injury or death to participants). There are no people on the track driving home with their families that my behaviour is going to endanger. And yes, I have also driven at very illegal speeds on a public highway myself, but *ONLY* when the circumstances allowed it without endangering anyone else. On a straight piece of highway with abslutely no one in front of me for several kilomerters, four lanes to myself and a 30 meter wide median, I have been known to open it up and bed in a set of race brake pads. The key differentiator in both scenarios vs. what the OP is doing in the videos is the absence of danger posed to the general public. I am all for driving fast... just not where it puts other innocent people's lives in danger.

BLKROKT 01-12-2017 12:26 PM

To be fair..... those look like pretty deserted roads when/where they're doing that. The "King of NYC" guy is a total fool looking to get rammed in prison, but at least these guys aren't endangering anyone else.

Still. Kill videos are lame. Most of us evolved out of that kind of blatant stupidity a long time ago. We're not on a Honda forum.

Slow_c63 01-12-2017 12:34 PM

I feel the need to respond one last time.

OP, I apologize for going off topic and derailing your thread, which is clearly about your car.

Diabolis,

I'm not sure if we watched the same videos, but as BLKROKT stated, the roads were very deserted and the racing was done very late at night. I re watched every video and maybe saw two cars on the road from all videos put together.I just feel like your first comment was very harsh and uncalled for. Telling him that he may die by age of 30 if he continues down this path. As I stated in my previous comment, I want to agree with you, but not they way you put it on paper.

;)

Ambystom01 01-12-2017 12:56 PM


Originally Posted by Slow_c63 (Post 7022865)
I feel the need to respond one last time.

OP, I apologize for going off topic and derailing your thread, which is clearly about your car.

Diabolis,

I'm not sure if we watched the same videos, but as BLKROKT stated, the roads were very deserted and the racing was done very late at night. I re watched every video and maybe saw two cars on the road from all videos put together.I just feel like your first comment was very harsh and uncalled for. Telling him that he may die by age of 30 if he continues down this path. As I stated in my previous comment, I want to agree with you, but not they way you put it on paper.

;)

Don't worry, that's just his style.

Diabolis 01-12-2017 01:13 PM

On the very first video I clicked on - Merc vs McLaren - there are four cars participating in the street race, and about five seconds into it you can see the car on the far right swerve into the middle to avoid a vehicle driving at normal speeds. On the second video I clicked on (and I don't remember which one it was - maybe the Ferrari), you can't see traffic ahead because the camera held by the passenger is trained on the driver and car on the left, but what you can see is tons of traffic travelling in the opoosite direction. A 30" concrete median is not going to prevent either of the two cars participating in the street race from flying over it at 200+ km/h and easily taking out half a dozen cars travelling in the opposite direction. I did not bother watching the rest. Perhaps the other street races were a little less asinine - I didn't see them - but why not go do it at a drag strip or a piece of road that is closed to the public? :nix:

Diabolis 01-12-2017 01:24 PM

Just watched the other two... the only other shot looking up ahead is in the last one:

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...86e7ccb5e9.png

The other two participants have their brake lights on... because the road ahead isn't exactly clear (and there was another car in the passing (far left) lane that went by them as they were staging the start and they subsequently overtook).

Diabolis 01-12-2017 01:31 PM


Originally Posted by Ambystom01 (Post 7022888)
Don't worry, that's just his style.

Yup... I call every a$$hole an a$$hole - and you yourself brought up the suppositories in the other thread so you're now venting here. Nice. :)

Ambystom01 01-12-2017 01:37 PM


Originally Posted by Diabolis (Post 7022923)
Yup... I call every a$$hole an a$$hole - and you yourself brought up the suppositories in the other thread so you're now venting here. Nice. :)

Oh the irony...

Diabolis 01-12-2017 02:23 PM

Slow_c63 - traffic fatalities are indeed harsh and uncalled for, and the OP is about to become and/or commit one by his reckless behaviour. I would think that telling someone that they are doing somethign very stupid is less harsh than death. If you have ever seen a traffic fatality in all of its gore, lost a loved one due to some idiot like the OP, or even counselled policemen, firemen or EMT personnel who suffer from PTSD because they've had to hold someone while they die and/or collect the severed body parts afterwards, that's harsh. Calling an idiot an idiot and hurting his feelings is nowhere near that.

s.e.a.n. 01-12-2017 03:03 PM


Originally Posted by Diabolis (Post 7022780)
Hell no... I actually race cars - but those are risks that I and ALL other participans in the sport willingly assume (and furthermore the environment of a racetrack and the various safety equipment for the driver are such that it minimizes the potential of injury or death to participants). There are no people on the track driving home with their families that my behaviour is going to endanger. And yes, I have also driven at very illegal speeds on a public highway myself, but *ONLY* when the circumstances allowed it without endangering anyone else. On a straight piece of highway with abslutely no one in front of me for several kilomerters, four lanes to myself and a 30 meter wide median, I have been known to open it up and bed in a set of race brake pads. The key differentiator in both scenarios vs. what the OP is doing in the videos is the absence of danger posed to the general public. I am all for driving fast... just not where it puts other innocent people's lives in danger.


Originally Posted by Diabolis (Post 7022905)
On the very first video I clicked on - Merc vs McLaren - there are four cars participating in the street race, and about five seconds into it you can see the car on the far right swerve into the middle to avoid a vehicle driving at normal speeds. On the second video I clicked on (and I don't remember which one it was - maybe the Ferrari), you can't see traffic ahead because the camera held by the passenger is trained on the driver and car on the left, but what you can see is tons of traffic travelling in the opoosite direction. A 30" concrete median is not going to prevent either of the two cars participating in the street race from flying over it at 200+ km/h and easily taking out half a dozen cars travelling in the opposite direction. I did not bother watching the rest. Perhaps the other street races were a little less asinine - I didn't see them - but why not go do it at a drag strip or a piece of road that is closed to the public? :nix:

I hope when you perform these illegal speeds there are no cars in the opposite direction either.

Savage-wp 01-12-2017 05:18 PM


Originally Posted by BAD430BENZ (Post 7022207)
So you are telling me with the list of cars you have , you have never done any spirited driving ? The videos I saw show them racing each other side by side and I didn't see any weaving in and out of traffic . I'm 41 years old and finally got my dream car , Ferrari 360 Twin Turbo , and I wouldn't race through traffic but I sure as hell jump on the throttle when I get an open spot .

You have a twin Turbo Ferrari 360. Nice. That must be a blast to drive.
What power is it making.

Diabolis 01-12-2017 05:21 PM


Originally Posted by s.e.a.n. (Post 7023020)
I hope when you perform these illegal speeds there are no cars in the opposite direction either.

First of all, I no longer drive at highly illegal speeds on public roads... and the one time when I did do so, there most certainly weren't any other vehicles around that I could see for several kilometers. I believe the circumstances of said incident were even noted on the police report and that the prosecution took them into account, together with the facts that I was indeed bedding in my brakes on a completely empty road, not street racing, and that furthermore I had additional driver training and experience to safely operate said vehicle at the rate of speed at which I was going before they presented their submission to the judge... hence I can talk about it here in a public forum. And, I *NEVER* said that what I did back then wasn't stupid or irresposnsible. It certainly was. Even a single car incident would have resulted in indirect monetary damage to taxpayers - but it just as certainly wasn't anywhere near as reckless as engaging in street racing. The only lives that could have possibly been lost as a result of my own stupidity were my own and perhaps a rodent that may have been somewhere in the weeds by the side of the road, not those of other motorists or pedestrians. Furthermore, I would think that if you had bought gas at some gas station that made you engine seize, you'd warn others about it... so why shouldn't I warn others about my own stupidity if you will? After all, an engine is easy to replace... it's only money.

You show me one person that bought a sports car that hasn't broken the law by exceeding the speed limit once or twice and I'll show you a liar - but there is a clear difference between breaking the law and endangering others. I wouldn't care if the OP was doing 300 km/h on a deserted road - I'd actually be happy for him and probably a little bit jealous. On the other hand, I have seen complete idiots driving on the autobahn in Germany where they weren't breaking any laws but were indeed presenting a serious danger to themselves and others. That is the distinction I am trying to make here. And, when people like this guy and others advocating said behaviour and calling my words harsh get into an accident, it reflects poorly on all of us. Think of this guy or Paul Walker and Roger Rodas next time you get your auto insurance bill or when you get pulled over by a police officer for a loud exhaust or some other nuisance that no one would even notice if you were in a Toyota.

As for traffic fatalities in the middle east, here's just one relevant tidbit of information: https://www.greenprophet.com/2010/03...-toll-driving/.

Ambystom01 01-12-2017 05:24 PM

If no cars were around, how did you get caught by the police? Not arguing, just curious how that happened.

Brunty88 01-12-2017 06:05 PM


Originally Posted by BAD430BENZ (Post 7022207)
So you are telling me with the list of cars you have , you have never done any spirited driving ? The videos I saw show them racing each other side by side and I didn't see any weaving in and out of traffic . I'm 41 years old and finally got my dream car , Ferrari 360 Twin Turbo , and I wouldn't race through traffic but I sure as hell jump on the throttle when I get an open spot .

I think we are all missing the point here
This guy has to share more information !!!!!

Diabolis 01-12-2017 06:31 PM

Because I didn't and couldn't see him... he was hiding in the median (valley) behind some tall weeds maybe 15 meters from the side of the road, about a kilometer ahead of where I started to speed up and then hammer on the brakes twice. Needless to say, if I had seen him - or anyone else for that matter - I would not have chosen to bed in the Pagids there and then. :cop: :mercy:

Diabolis 01-12-2017 06:49 PM


Originally Posted by Brunty88 (Post 7023240)
I think we are all missing the point here
This guy has to share more information !!!!!

Glad I could provide some entertainment... but seriously, *please* don't street race. There are things that I've seen myself or heard of directly from first responders that are extremely disturbing... and while it may be hypocritical of me to preach here, I am hoping that by not condoning reckless behaviour when I see it I may be able to save someone's life or prevent an injury. Take it as you wish.


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