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AutoTalent 01-17-2017 09:30 PM

C63 Black Series + FI Headers. Pics + Dyno Run
 
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Hi everyone. A somewhat local customer dropped off his car today for FI headers + pulley install. I thought some of you might enjoy these pictures. The car dynoed at 425whp and 404 ft lbs on our Dynapack. I will update this thread with the gains + sound clip!



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kjkidd21 01-17-2017 09:48 PM

How much more power are you expecting from the pulley alone? I have thought about doing a pulley, but the mixed feedback from members here always makes me nervous about pulling the trigger on one.

AutoTalent 01-17-2017 09:56 PM


Originally Posted by kjkidd21 (Post 7028057)
How much more power are you expecting from the pulley alone? I have thought about doing a pulley, but the mixed feedback from members here always makes me nervous about pulling the trigger on one.

Agency Power (the pulley we are installing) claims 10-20 so we unfortunately won't know the exact amount as we are pairing it with the long tube headers.

kjkidd21 01-17-2017 09:57 PM

How much do you sell the AP pulley for...?

wheelz 01-17-2017 11:09 PM

Can't wait for the results. Going to be a beast.

C SEXY 3 01-18-2017 01:22 PM


Originally Posted by wheelz (Post 7028110)
Can't wait for the results. Going to be a beast.

Can't wait to hear it in person!!


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INS1GNIA 01-18-2017 02:23 PM

Thx AutoTalent for the pics/vid. A super clean and beautiful BS for sure.

Robert AMG 01-18-2017 03:36 PM

did you logged AFR and timing on the stock BS software?

C63fora2w1 01-18-2017 04:27 PM

Was there an ECU tune as well ??

wheelz 01-18-2017 05:11 PM

Eurocharged V6

AutoTalent 01-18-2017 08:01 PM

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Celicasaur 01-19-2017 01:55 PM

:popcorn:

skratch77 01-19-2017 02:11 PM

how much for a full bolt on system from headers to mufflers ?

AutoTalent 01-19-2017 03:52 PM


Originally Posted by skratch77 (Post 7029771)
how much for a full bolt on system from headers to mufflers ?

PM incoming!

AutoTalent 01-23-2017 02:25 PM

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Results below. Car picked up 28WHP before the tune and added another 12WHP after the tune.






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Dyno with Eurocharged Tune


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Vpatriota 01-23-2017 06:44 PM


Originally Posted by AutoTalent (Post 7033657)
Results below. Car picked up 28WHP before the tune and added another 12WHP after the tune.


So this is the Eurocharged regular tune, done by MyGenius, right? Not the "dyno tune", correct?

I'm also installing LT headers w/ 200cells cat, w/ stock mufflers for now. Will install the valvetronic catback from iPE also. I'm also waiting for a new tune from Eurocharged, now that I'm putting new headers. Apart from the pulley, pretty much the same. You think I'll get similar numbers, maybe around 450whp at least?

skratch77 01-23-2017 07:07 PM

is there anyway you guys can dyno with pro dry filters and row air boxes?

wheelz 01-23-2017 07:53 PM

I think we can only get some much from this engine with out supercharging it. The tune was done by my genius and it is the V6. If eurocharged comes back out to SoCal, I might get it dyno tuned. Really happy with it now and can tell the difference and the sound is amazing.


Originally Posted by Vpatriota (Post 7033932)
So this is the Eurocharged regular tune, done by MyGenius, right? Not the "dyno tune", correct?

I'm also installing LT headers w/ 200cells cat, w/ stock mufflers for now. Will install the valvetronic catback from iPE also. I'm also waiting for a new tune from Eurocharged, now that I'm putting new headers. Apart from the pulley, pretty much the same. You think I'll get similar numbers, maybe around 450whp at least?


wheelz 01-23-2017 07:54 PM

The first dyno run was with row air boxes and AFE filters. Thats all I had done to it when I dropped it off to Auto Talent.


Originally Posted by skratch77 (Post 7033954)
is there anyway you guys can dyno with pro dry filters and row air boxes?


Vpatriota 01-23-2017 08:06 PM


Originally Posted by wheelz (Post 7033989)
I think we can only get some much from this engine with out supercharging it. The tune was done by my genius and it is the V6. If eurocharged comes back out to SoCal, I might get it dyno tuned. Really happy with it now and can tell the difference and the sound is amazing.

But your graph shows 465whp, which is very very good for a non-SC M156 - in my humble and not so expert opinion. I wish I could get that outta mine.

skratch77 01-23-2017 09:18 PM


Originally Posted by wheelz (Post 7033993)
The first dyno run was with row air boxes and AFE filters. Thats all I had done to it when I dropped it off to Auto Talent.

oh damn I wish it was stock as I was hoping you could get another 10-15whp

I was going to go full exhaust on my setup but I can't justify the cost 5k for 15-20whp assuming the pulley makes 10whp I might try that pulley though and see what that gets me.that is the next best thing in my case if I can get 10whp out of it I'm done.

thank you for posting this and doing the runs.it gives people that havnt modded yet a really good idea of what they can get out of it.

from my own testing I think the best bang for the buck to new guys are.

row/aFe filters 375-400
tune 700
and maybe the pulley.600

after that we need to spend alot to get minimum gains and might as well go for a supercharger.

s.e.a.n. 01-23-2017 09:38 PM

Have you consider getting a full exhaust, maybe Renntech's throttle body that will possibly bring you in the 480ish range

chrisridebike8 01-23-2017 09:49 PM


Originally Posted by s.e.a.n. (Post 7034088)
Have you consider getting a full exhaust, maybe Renntech's throttle body that will possibly bring you in the 480ish range



I think I would do a custom dyno tune to gain some power before doing something expensive like throttle bodies. There are a couple people here that made in the 480s on 91 octane I think.

wheelz 01-24-2017 10:41 AM

I think I am done putting mods into it. Dyno tune would be the only thing I would do now. I am happy with the results that I got from the tune and FI LT headers.

AutoTalent 02-02-2017 04:14 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4YL2mKOVUo


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