Cabon Fiber Ceramic brakes
08-09-2017, 02:41 PM
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C63fora2w1 (08-09-2017)
08-09-2017, 02:55 PM
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I had never heard of these pads before but did a little online forum research and then called a few people in the indie service arena. My conclusion is the company and product have been around for some time, appear to be totally legit and have established a good reputation . .
.The parent company is Centic brakes who has been around for awhile and well respected. The sad fact is this forum has a small group of people who run in a click who refuse to accept anything new and anything that is not uber expensive. You could show them independent scientific data of side by side comparison tests and show that these brakes are as good or better then the $500 set that they prefer and they would find any reason not to accept them. Its a small minded popular kid mentality and its really sad.
08-09-2017, 03:11 PM
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You spin your mouth off here with incorrect technical jargon over and over. You're non technical so stop pretending please....
The cost you paid for those pads was abnormally cheap. I don't recall "uber" expensive ever being mentioned in this thread as being a requirement.
I just hope (for your sake) they didn't cheap out on materials. The brake pad industry is NOT regulated (proof linked here that you probably didn't even know about until it was posted) and there are plenty of actual technical studies available to prove it.
Maybe it's a cost ratio situation where they can lose X on item Y because the sale quantities are low and made back on item Z where they are extremely high.
You're the same guy who keeps ranting about "AMG" tax so you obviously have no clue how R&D vs retail cost works.
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08-09-2017, 03:27 PM
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The parent company is Centic brakes who has been around for awhile and well respected. The sad fact is this forum has a small group of people who run in a click who refuse to accept anything new and anything that is not uber expensive. You could show them independent scientific data of side by side comparison tests and show that these brakes are as good or better then the $500 set that they prefer and they would find any reason not to accept them. Its a small minded popular kid mentality and its really sad.
The clique (that's how you spell it) that you're referring to consists of people that are skeptical of your claims, because you have no proof, past your subjective assessment, to support your claims. We are skeptical of brake pads that cost $50; less than the cost of the oil used in an oil change.
You have not provided any scientific comparisons showing these pads are equal to the trusted brands. None. So stop with your bull**** allegations.
It's hilarious that in another thread, you're chastising a guy for complaining about an $800 service, yet you run $50 pads on your $80,000 car.
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BLKROKT (08-09-2017)
08-09-2017, 03:49 PM
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A couple of people are stuck on the pricing of the pads. Does anyone know the cost of manufacturing brake pads and what the profit margins are??? The more expensive pads could have cost the same amount to manufacture as the cheaper power stop brand. Lots of things can be done cheaper on the car, its not a bad thing. Mobil 1 oil is dirt cheap and I buy it instead of more expensive liqui moly or redline. I know not the best comparison, safety of you and others around you is priority but the pad performance argument can go both ways, only way to settle it would be to do tests of pad performance, otherwise both parties can be wrong but there is a lot more than skepticism in this thread its more like ****ting on the pads for being low price.
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08-09-2017, 03:57 PM
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Y'all are so mean to eachother in here. As AMG owners we should know that a lot of our parts have ridiculous mark up and "AMG tax".
$50 is suspiciously cheap but OP posted great content for us. We should do research before bagging on him. Thanks for finding this and posting your review OP.
$50 is suspiciously cheap but OP posted great content for us. We should do research before bagging on him. Thanks for finding this and posting your review OP.
LMFAO!!! before even scrolling down to the replies I knew the viagra popping crew would pop in and post a bunch of bull**** about dangers and regulations and China and whatnot.
This is why this forum is one of the worst I've ever been part of. The same garbage no life members here ranting on and on across everything... it's really pathetic. It's like a posse of angry middle aged men going through a midlife crisis and that's what all y'all are a bunch of old losers with too much time, money and no common sense.
Everytime a cheap option or product or vendor is discovered here comes the old men "must be bad quality "wouldn't put that on my car" "I shudder to think how my precious supercar will respond". Someone posts a fun run "omg street racing wtf take to track".
You don't see this kind of nonsense on the //M forums or any other performance enthusiast forum. People share ideas and products and provide reviews and experiences so the community as a whole can benefit. Never fails to amuse me how stupid and thick headed some people really are.
This is the reason why the greedy vendors on here profit so much and there is not much innovation. You will notice these same members sucking these vendors dick.
Hey OP thanks for the links I ordered a set.
This is why this forum is one of the worst I've ever been part of. The same garbage no life members here ranting on and on across everything... it's really pathetic. It's like a posse of angry middle aged men going through a midlife crisis and that's what all y'all are a bunch of old losers with too much time, money and no common sense.
Everytime a cheap option or product or vendor is discovered here comes the old men "must be bad quality "wouldn't put that on my car" "I shudder to think how my precious supercar will respond". Someone posts a fun run "omg street racing wtf take to track".
You don't see this kind of nonsense on the //M forums or any other performance enthusiast forum. People share ideas and products and provide reviews and experiences so the community as a whole can benefit. Never fails to amuse me how stupid and thick headed some people really are.
This is the reason why the greedy vendors on here profit so much and there is not much innovation. You will notice these same members sucking these vendors dick.
Hey OP thanks for the links I ordered a set.
I'm gonna give this a shot.
If you want to buy cheap pads, tires, whatever critical component for your car, absolutely have at it. However, to justify those parts and say that other very, very tested manufactures are just overpriced is wrong.
We KNOW PFC, Endless, Porterfield, Pagid, Project Mu, make exceptional products and therefore the prices are justified based on the testing, reputation, and the performance those products are known for.
On the flip side, the OP's $50 pads *might* be fine, but we don't know and for the OP to come in here saying that everything is A okay and that they're in line with other high end pads is not necessarily true.
Now, if the OP says they're okay for street driving, what exactly does that mean? Does it slow the car when he presses the brake pedal? If that's the criteria, then yes, I'd agree, those pads are suitable. Outside of that, however, what's the fade like? How's the pedal feel? Do they work well cold? Do they make noise? A million other questions can be asked and right now we just don't know which is why we cannot definitely say that these pads are as good a X pad.
And for the record, I'm not old, rich, or grumpy.
08-09-2017, 04:05 PM
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I'm just going to add my experience as I have been running these pads for almost 2 years now. I got them because my oem pads were squeaky and horrifically dusty, and the Powerstops have been great. No noise, no dust, and excellent stopping power, once they are warm. Like most ceramic pads, they feel a bit wooden when cold. I even ran them at one track day and they held up fine, my brake fluid boiled before the pads started fading. Sorry to anyone who thinks that more expensive = better.
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08-09-2017, 04:28 PM
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08-09-2017, 06:19 PM
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No, sounds about right.
08-09-2017, 06:28 PM
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I would love to see a side by side comparison test but the same people who squawk the loudest in here have scoffed at that idea and refused the prospect. Also when several members who use the same pads have left comments about their experiences the same individuals prove my point by scoffing at the posibility these could be a decent pad.
So far I have not noticed any fade, peddle feel is good and braking force is strong and smooth. The brakes a completely silent .. no squeaks or rattles. Of course im just a non-technical noob who can't possibly know anything because I am not one of the cool kids... kind of like the v7 post.. This entire post was intended to benifet the community as a whole by leaving a review about a product that I found that is a dust free alternative to more well known expensive pads but the cool kids just couldn't allow that to happen.
Jasonoff nothing I wrote was ever directed toward you. Sorry if you took it that way.
So far I have not noticed any fade, peddle feel is good and braking force is strong and smooth. The brakes a completely silent .. no squeaks or rattles. Of course im just a non-technical noob who can't possibly know anything because I am not one of the cool kids... kind of like the v7 post.. This entire post was intended to benifet the community as a whole by leaving a review about a product that I found that is a dust free alternative to more well known expensive pads but the cool kids just couldn't allow that to happen.
Jasonoff nothing I wrote was ever directed toward you. Sorry if you took it that way.
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08-09-2017, 06:31 PM
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A Service - spending ok
Fake carbon fiber seatbacks - spend almost a grand here
Brakes to stop the car - buy the cheapest you can find cause you can't see them
I'm pretty sure this is indicative of some sort of mental illness.
Complete service history is an important part of ownership and will have a direct impact on your resale value. Look at it this way your car only needs service at 10k intervals which for most people is once a year. You own an 80-90k car and if you can't afford $800 a year to maintain it then maybe this is not the car for you. Its not a Honda civic or a chevy that you do all the service yourself and it doesn't matter.
Fake carbon fiber seatbacks - spend almost a grand here
Brakes to stop the car - buy the cheapest you can find cause you can't see them
I'm pretty sure this is indicative of some sort of mental illness.
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08-09-2017, 07:31 PM
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I would love to see a side by side comparison test but the same people who squawk the loudest in here have scoffed at that idea and refused the prospect. Also when several members who use the same pads have left comments about their experiences the same individuals prove my point by scoffing at the posibility these could be a decent pad.
So far I have not noticed any fade, peddle feel is good and braking force is strong and smooth. The brakes a completely silent .. no squeaks or rattles. Of course im just a non-technical noob who can't possibly know anything because I am not one of the cool kids... kind of like the v7 post.. This entire post was intended to benifet the community as a whole by leaving a review about a product that I found that is a dust free alternative to more well known expensive pads but the cool kids just couldn't allow that to happen.
Jasonoff nothing I wrote was ever directed toward you. Sorry if you took it that way.
So far I have not noticed any fade, peddle feel is good and braking force is strong and smooth. The brakes a completely silent .. no squeaks or rattles. Of course im just a non-technical noob who can't possibly know anything because I am not one of the cool kids... kind of like the v7 post.. This entire post was intended to benifet the community as a whole by leaving a review about a product that I found that is a dust free alternative to more well known expensive pads but the cool kids just couldn't allow that to happen.
Jasonoff nothing I wrote was ever directed toward you. Sorry if you took it that way.
08-10-2017, 02:48 AM
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I feel left out on the action so I'll post this: Porterfield is Carbon Kevlar and have a friction level up to .41. They claim to have more consistency with fade resistant. I'm interested to see how OP rotors will stand up to the Z pads.
08-12-2017, 11:26 PM
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08-13-2017, 01:16 AM
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08-13-2017, 01:56 PM
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https://www.carpartsdiscount.com/dis...l?3593=1370686
08-13-2017, 05:21 PM
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2nd fail in this thread man... Rears are tiny and shared over multiple platform.
That's a visit to hell AND a fiery death now.
Which one comes first?Are you trolling or completely missed the part where the brembo brake pads are always around that price?????????? How do you know they are discounted? The list price is different every website you look at. If you want to order some 50 dollar brembo pads I put up a link.
https://www.carpartsdiscount.com/dis...l?3593=1370686
https://www.carpartsdiscount.com/dis...l?3593=1370686
