My Merc is Mad "C63 AMG Tracktool"
#29
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I am running 10w60 castrol TSW Oil at the moment. Use it over 7.000 miles now. Every trackday I fill in new Oil and get rid of the old used Oil. It's not expensive and I feel better. You dont have to change the filter. It'S good for at least 3-4 Oil changes if you switch Oil every 600km. But you have to know that I am driving my car mostly (95%) on track and you can believe me I drive the sh*t out of it .
So far no problems with the car.
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I have no idea but I dont think that there was a no sunroof option available in Europe. Like I said I think they used a carbon fibre plate to close the hole of the missing sunroof. I've never looked at it closely because my rollover cage is in the way.. I will take you a picture as soon as I get the car back at Mugello Circuit next week to show how it looks like. I was running the Oil for a few thousand miles but now I switched to Castrol 10W60
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There was a no sunroof option for the Black series coupe for the Japan market too, a forum member has the car.
Also it doesn't look like the roof is carbon, maybe I have it wrong though.
The importance is that there are parts that weight savings guys can buy, both for the roof panel as well as the ceiling lining and the blank out for the sunroof switch in the overhead panel.
Deleting options is big in car communities for weight savings, but the most desirable is retrofitting a factory delete.
The factory deletes can be expensive too.
But one can buy them used.
Also it doesn't look like the roof is carbon, maybe I have it wrong though.
The importance is that there are parts that weight savings guys can buy, both for the roof panel as well as the ceiling lining and the blank out for the sunroof switch in the overhead panel.
Deleting options is big in car communities for weight savings, but the most desirable is retrofitting a factory delete.
The factory deletes can be expensive too.
But one can buy them used.
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There was a no sunroof option for the Black series coupe for the Japan market too, a forum member has the car.
Also it doesn't look like the roof is carbon, maybe I have it wrong though.
The importance is that there are parts that weight savings guys can buy, both for the roof panel as well as the ceiling lining and the blank out for the sunroof switch in the overhead panel.
Deleting options is big in car communities for weight savings, but the most desirable is retrofitting a factory delete.
The factory deletes can be expensive too.
But one can buy them used.
Also it doesn't look like the roof is carbon, maybe I have it wrong though.
The importance is that there are parts that weight savings guys can buy, both for the roof panel as well as the ceiling lining and the blank out for the sunroof switch in the overhead panel.
Deleting options is big in car communities for weight savings, but the most desirable is retrofitting a factory delete.
The factory deletes can be expensive too.
But one can buy them used.
During the wintertime I will install headers and adjust the software. I will install the HMS widebody rear fenders too to get more grip on the rear axle with wider tyres. More mechanical grip is a must have for me now
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I can't tell from the pictures, but have you cut a rectangular hole in the center of your front bumper cover in order to get more air flow to the transmission cooler? I like it. Did you also cut the bumper support behind the cover? (MBNRG - another possible solution)
Your car makes me all tingly. Thanks.
Your car makes me all tingly. Thanks.
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Hi! Yes on my "race version" front bumper I've cutted a horizontal hole to get more air flow to the transmission cooler, thats absolutely correct. Yes, I also removed the bumper support, climate housing etc to increase the airflow. My big frontsplitter replaces most of the stock underbody covers most at the front and channels the air underneath the car. To make sure that I dont lose the frontwing while driving with high speeds we fixed it with brackets on the frame and constructed customized brackets directly behind the bumper. It has holes with little fins to suck out the hot air of the engine bay aswell what is really important for heat management on the track. I take pictures next time when I am in my garage
Cheers Joe
Cheers Joe
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Awesome Joe, thanks for confirming. Was the hole there effective in lowering transmission temps? Did you happen to take before/after readings? I'd be happy to cut another hole in my bumper if it works. I also have the 44O cooling kit, so was considering moving the trans cooler down to the bottom of the radiator where the oil cooler used to be (is now lying flat). But if your hole works, that's even easier. Thanks
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Car looks great Joe What size are those quad exhaust tips, 82mm? I’m reworking my exhaust and was thinking of quad 4” DTM tips, but I like how yours look.
I’d swap in new O2 sensors first and see if that does it. Did you pull the codes yet?
I’d swap in new O2 sensors first and see if that does it. Did you pull the codes yet?
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I have been reading your thread and looking at it as a very reference for C63 tracking. Thanks for sharing your experience.
I always have trouble with my brakes, using both the original 1 piece or 2 piece 360mm OEM. I was looking at the racingbrake upgrade to 390mm but this also means going from 18" to 19" wheels, i want to keep 18".
Can you please share more about your brake setting? :
Front SLS GT3 Brake Brembo Racing 380/36 Disc --> where did you source that? did you keep the original caliper? how much does it cost to buy the set and how much to replace the disks? do you mind sharing some photos?
brakecooling through ducts and panels --> do you mind sharing some photos?
Thanks!
Julien
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Hey Joe,
What a fantastic post! Perfect timing for me as I am also just starting to prep a car purely for track work.
Mine is a 2008 W204 and so far I've only upgraded the Diff to a Drexler LSD, fitted KW Coilovers, added the Eurocharged V7 Tune, installed Supersprint Headers and Catless Downpipes and a Weistec Transmission Pan.
The next lot of modifications is to install a secondary Transmission Oil Cooler and Pump in the rear defuser and later a Diff Cooler.
I will be removing the primary Transmission Cooler Fan (as it restricts airflow at high speed), remove the two driving/fog lights and use the location for the Brake Duct Intakes.
At the moment I'm running 18 x 9.5" ET 52 rims fitted with 265/35/18 Hankook Z221 Semi Slicks both front/ rear and also have another set fitted with Yokohama AO 50's and stock brakes with EBC Yellow Stuff Pads.
I have a set of 390mm and 340mm (rear) two-piece rotors which I'd like to fit but unfortunately would have to change to 19" wheels and also find a set of brake caliper offset brackets.
I currently run a W208 CLK55 on the track and learned a long time ago that if you haven't got the handling set up wright, horse power will get you absolutely nowhere and thats why I'm going to take this build very slowly.
I'm only competing in general Club Racing and Supersprints etc and therefore I won't be stripping the weight from the car for at least the next month or two and all going well I should have the Rollcage installed before the first major race meeting in late January.
Here in Australia we have just finished our Club Racing competition for the year and as the weather is heating up it will be a good time get in some "Test & Tune" days at the track and hopefully iron out the heating problems our cars suffer.
I look forward to discussing our progress in the near future and I'm sure you already realise as I have, you only have to ask and you will definitely get assistance from the Forum.
Cheers--------JR.
What a fantastic post! Perfect timing for me as I am also just starting to prep a car purely for track work.
Mine is a 2008 W204 and so far I've only upgraded the Diff to a Drexler LSD, fitted KW Coilovers, added the Eurocharged V7 Tune, installed Supersprint Headers and Catless Downpipes and a Weistec Transmission Pan.
The next lot of modifications is to install a secondary Transmission Oil Cooler and Pump in the rear defuser and later a Diff Cooler.
I will be removing the primary Transmission Cooler Fan (as it restricts airflow at high speed), remove the two driving/fog lights and use the location for the Brake Duct Intakes.
At the moment I'm running 18 x 9.5" ET 52 rims fitted with 265/35/18 Hankook Z221 Semi Slicks both front/ rear and also have another set fitted with Yokohama AO 50's and stock brakes with EBC Yellow Stuff Pads.
I have a set of 390mm and 340mm (rear) two-piece rotors which I'd like to fit but unfortunately would have to change to 19" wheels and also find a set of brake caliper offset brackets.
I currently run a W208 CLK55 on the track and learned a long time ago that if you haven't got the handling set up wright, horse power will get you absolutely nowhere and thats why I'm going to take this build very slowly.
I'm only competing in general Club Racing and Supersprints etc and therefore I won't be stripping the weight from the car for at least the next month or two and all going well I should have the Rollcage installed before the first major race meeting in late January.
Here in Australia we have just finished our Club Racing competition for the year and as the weather is heating up it will be a good time get in some "Test & Tune" days at the track and hopefully iron out the heating problems our cars suffer.
I look forward to discussing our progress in the near future and I'm sure you already realise as I have, you only have to ask and you will definitely get assistance from the Forum.
Cheers--------JR.
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Hey Joe,
What a fantastic post! Perfect timing for me as I am also just starting to prep a car purely for track work.
Mine is a 2008 W204 and so far I've only upgraded the Diff to a Drexler LSD, fitted KW Coilovers, added the Eurocharged V7 Tune, installed Supersprint Headers and Catless Downpipes and a Weistec Transmission Pan.
The next lot of modifications is to install a secondary Transmission Oil Cooler and Pump in the rear defuser and later a Diff Cooler.
I will be removing the primary Transmission Cooler Fan (as it restricts airflow at high speed), remove the two driving/fog lights and use the location for the Brake Duct Intakes.
At the moment I'm running 18 x 9.5" ET 52 rims fitted with 265/35/18 Hankook Z221 Semi Slicks both front/ rear and also have another set fitted with Yokohama AO 50's and stock brakes with EBC Yellow Stuff Pads.
I have a set of 390mm and 340mm (rear) two-piece rotors which I'd like to fit but unfortunately would have to change to 19" wheels and also find a set of brake caliper offset brackets.
I currently run a W208 CLK55 on the track and learned a long time ago that if you haven't got the handling set up wright, horse power will get you absolutely nowhere and thats why I'm going to take this build very slowly.
I'm only competing in general Club Racing and Supersprints etc and therefore I won't be stripping the weight from the car for at least the next month or two and all going well I should have the Rollcage installed before the first major race meeting in late January.
Here in Australia we have just finished our Club Racing competition for the year and as the weather is heating up it will be a good time get in some "Test & Tune" days at the track and hopefully iron out the heating problems our cars suffer.
I look forward to discussing our progress in the near future and I'm sure you already realise as I have, you only have to ask and you will definitely get assistance from the Forum.
Cheers--------JR.
What a fantastic post! Perfect timing for me as I am also just starting to prep a car purely for track work.
Mine is a 2008 W204 and so far I've only upgraded the Diff to a Drexler LSD, fitted KW Coilovers, added the Eurocharged V7 Tune, installed Supersprint Headers and Catless Downpipes and a Weistec Transmission Pan.
The next lot of modifications is to install a secondary Transmission Oil Cooler and Pump in the rear defuser and later a Diff Cooler.
I will be removing the primary Transmission Cooler Fan (as it restricts airflow at high speed), remove the two driving/fog lights and use the location for the Brake Duct Intakes.
At the moment I'm running 18 x 9.5" ET 52 rims fitted with 265/35/18 Hankook Z221 Semi Slicks both front/ rear and also have another set fitted with Yokohama AO 50's and stock brakes with EBC Yellow Stuff Pads.
I have a set of 390mm and 340mm (rear) two-piece rotors which I'd like to fit but unfortunately would have to change to 19" wheels and also find a set of brake caliper offset brackets.
I currently run a W208 CLK55 on the track and learned a long time ago that if you haven't got the handling set up wright, horse power will get you absolutely nowhere and thats why I'm going to take this build very slowly.
I'm only competing in general Club Racing and Supersprints etc and therefore I won't be stripping the weight from the car for at least the next month or two and all going well I should have the Rollcage installed before the first major race meeting in late January.
Here in Australia we have just finished our Club Racing competition for the year and as the weather is heating up it will be a good time get in some "Test & Tune" days at the track and hopefully iron out the heating problems our cars suffer.
I look forward to discussing our progress in the near future and I'm sure you already realise as I have, you only have to ask and you will definitely get assistance from the Forum.
Cheers--------JR.
Wow that sounds great! Excited to see some pictures about your build !
BR Joe
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Weight savings:
biggest weight savings:
1) remove full interior and electricity which is not needed
2) install bucket seets instead of the full adjustable OEM leather seats
3) remove sunroof
4) install carbonfibre doors
5) titanium exhaust system
6) lightweight battery
7) go for 18" rims --> much better acceleration
uniball bushes and solid alu subframe bushings which have been customized for my car. I couldnt find any after market product so I had to let them built by a local shop that could drill aluminum.
Cheers joe
biggest weight savings:
1) remove full interior and electricity which is not needed
2) install bucket seets instead of the full adjustable OEM leather seats
3) remove sunroof
4) install carbonfibre doors
5) titanium exhaust system
6) lightweight battery
7) go for 18" rims --> much better acceleration
uniball bushes and solid alu subframe bushings which have been customized for my car. I couldnt find any after market product so I had to let them built by a local shop that could drill aluminum.
Cheers joe
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ello guys,
now finally the season has started again.
Here the first onboard of this year. Driving very soft just to check out how the car works. Big wing was mounted but really not necessary at that track. Missing aroung 15mph on the straights to achieve a nice laptime but in the end the car worked out great and I am very happy with it!
Cheers
now finally the season has started again.
Here the first onboard of this year. Driving very soft just to check out how the car works. Big wing was mounted but really not necessary at that track. Missing aroung 15mph on the straights to achieve a nice laptime but in the end the car worked out great and I am very happy with it!
Cheers
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I still have cats so I dont think it will catch fire :P
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That looks like a fun little track, thanks for posting. I had never heard of that one before.
Tell us us more about your roll cage? Like that wing sticker too.
Nice “easy” lap haha. Anyway what’s with the no fire suit or extinguisher?
And thanks for the tip on the front bumper opening for trans cooling. I’ve got Watkins Glen next week and think it will help there.
Tell us us more about your roll cage? Like that wing sticker too.
Nice “easy” lap haha. Anyway what’s with the no fire suit or extinguisher?
And thanks for the tip on the front bumper opening for trans cooling. I’ve got Watkins Glen next week and think it will help there.