2023 C 43 Order Guide
#1451
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PFL205.064 with M276.823 (Oil pump solenoid defeated)
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#1453
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^^^@alexasa Every time I doubt selecting white instead of my typical black, you post a pic that assures me I made the right choice LOL
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#1455
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Whoop! Your car will probably go right from production to delivery which is nice. The US configurator is unpublished and incomplete: https://www.mbusa.com/en/vehicles/bu...edan/c43w4/dx0
They fixed any issues with tinting - I'd still mention to use as little moisture as possible for the rear glass. I keep going back and fourth on PPF - probably worth it if you're keeping long term.
They fixed any issues with tinting - I'd still mention to use as little moisture as possible for the rear glass. I keep going back and fourth on PPF - probably worth it if you're keeping long term.
I think I am going to do PPF on at least the front bumper. I knew I was not planning on keeping my current car more than 2 years but the chips on the bumper still bother the crap out of me, ha!
Hopefully we get some good news in the next week or so. I see the Symphony is almost to GA port as well!
Hopefully we get some good news in the next week or so. I see the Symphony is almost to GA port as well!
#1456
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Good idea about the tint! I just need to locate someone reputable with experience on this platform/body. I have to get PPF. Working remote is awesome, so I don't commute, but when I am out and about, the roads in the DMV are trash. Construction, Interstates, Freeways, etc. I'm the inevitable gravel bouncing off the back of a dump truck magnet lol. I can't have this car chipped.
Can't wait to see some pics of you guys' rides! I don't want to break to bank on the PPF, but I think getting the mid coverage would annoy tf out of me if I can see the "invisible" line across the hood. That's where they get you with pricing. It's like all or nothing. UGH!
Can't wait to see some pics of you guys' rides! I don't want to break to bank on the PPF, but I think getting the mid coverage would annoy tf out of me if I can see the "invisible" line across the hood. That's where they get you with pricing. It's like all or nothing. UGH!
If you've never had PPF I'd recommend looking at cars closely with PPF. Best option, IMO, is to get full front fenders, hood, bumper and mirror caps (this will run around $2,500 depending on where you live). You can pretty much always see PPF because installers don't typically wrap the edges on every panel (and can't on some panel gaps). Meaning the film stops short of the body detail (vents, panel gaps, etc.).
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Wagons but good showcase of the colors:
Lunar
Magno
And a scathing review: https://www.citizen.co.za/motoring/m...-test-results/
Lunar
Magno
And a scathing review: https://www.citizen.co.za/motoring/m...-test-results/
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#1460
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I am actually quite puzzled why this car is so slow with over 400 hp and under 2000 lb with 4 wheel drive, it should easily be close to 4 sec. Could they have made it slower on purpose to not cannibalize C63?
It's slower than M340i and it should not be.
It's slower than M340i and it should not be.
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eatmydust (03-19-2023)
#1461
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Car and Driver: "We estimate it should hit 60 mph in about 4.0 seconds, but we'll soon get the chance to test it for ourselves."
They obviously looked at identical power to weight and all wheel drive and had come up with those estimates. Perhaps they would have some idea what's going on once they test it.
They obviously looked at identical power to weight and all wheel drive and had come up with those estimates. Perhaps they would have some idea what's going on once they test it.
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EPA testing has it at 4238 lbs - Not sure if that includes the driver for fuel economy sake.
I'm still waiting for US testing. Doing some keyboard drag math: https://robrobinette.com/et.htm
let's say it makes 380 hp to the wheel (what I've seen CLA45's tested at) and it weighs 4200 pounds. It will be lucky to hit the quarter mile in 12.9 seconds. And then referencing that time here: https://www.0-60specs.com/0-60-times/
It could be as fast as 4.2 or as slow as 4.6 in the 0-60mph. I'd guess it will be the same or slightly slower than the W205. W206 will probably beat the W205 in a 1/2 mile, lose the 0-60 and come very close at the quarter mile.
In RBR's video the onboard system clocked the 0-100 at 4.3 (in France). Not sure how accurate those are lol
I'm still waiting for US testing. Doing some keyboard drag math: https://robrobinette.com/et.htm
let's say it makes 380 hp to the wheel (what I've seen CLA45's tested at) and it weighs 4200 pounds. It will be lucky to hit the quarter mile in 12.9 seconds. And then referencing that time here: https://www.0-60specs.com/0-60-times/
It could be as fast as 4.2 or as slow as 4.6 in the 0-60mph. I'd guess it will be the same or slightly slower than the W205. W206 will probably beat the W205 in a 1/2 mile, lose the 0-60 and come very close at the quarter mile.
In RBR's video the onboard system clocked the 0-100 at 4.3 (in France). Not sure how accurate those are lol
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#1463
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EPA testing has it at 4238 lbs - Not sure if that includes the driver for fuel economy sake.
I'm still waiting for US testing. Doing some keyboard drag math: https://robrobinette.com/et.htm
let's say it makes 380 hp to the wheel (what I've seen CLA45's tested at) and it weighs 4200 pounds. It will be lucky to hit the quarter mile in 12.9 seconds. And then referencing that time here: https://www.0-60specs.com/0-60-times/
It could be as fast as 4.2 or as slow as 4.6 in the 0-60mph. I'd guess it will be the same or slightly slower than the W205. W206 will probably beat the W205 in a 1/2 mile, lose the 0-60 and come very close at the quarter mile.
In RBR's video the onboard system clock the 0-100 at 4.3 (in France). Not sure how accurate those are lol
I'm still waiting for US testing. Doing some keyboard drag math: https://robrobinette.com/et.htm
let's say it makes 380 hp to the wheel (what I've seen CLA45's tested at) and it weighs 4200 pounds. It will be lucky to hit the quarter mile in 12.9 seconds. And then referencing that time here: https://www.0-60specs.com/0-60-times/
It could be as fast as 4.2 or as slow as 4.6 in the 0-60mph. I'd guess it will be the same or slightly slower than the W205. W206 will probably beat the W205 in a 1/2 mile, lose the 0-60 and come very close at the quarter mile.
In RBR's video the onboard system clock the 0-100 at 4.3 (in France). Not sure how accurate those are lol
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I hope it's not marginally slower than the W205 - but I'm not feeling confident.
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eatmydust (03-19-2023)
#1465
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I'm not trying to argue with you but the DOG has the weight at "4092 lbs". If anything I'm probably being generous in both HP number and weight. BMW makes more power than they claim while MB usually makes less.
I hope it's not marginally slower than the W205 - but I'm not feeling confident.
I hope it's not marginally slower than the W205 - but I'm not feeling confident.
So C43 should be under 4 sec.
#1466
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I'm not trying to argue with you but the DOG has the weight at "4092 lbs". If anything I'm probably being generous in both HP number and weight. BMW makes more power than they claim while MB usually makes less.
I hope it's not marginally slower than the W205 - but I'm not feeling confident.
I hope it's not marginally slower than the W205 - but I'm not feeling confident.
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Even if we take the best case scenario (plugging into the calculator 4092 lbs and 402 wheel hp) it's exactly the same as the W205. MB would have to be saying it weighs more than it does or it would have to make more power than advertised to be faster than a W205 C43.
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#1468
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It does make more power + 18 hp when needed from electro turbo. In any case, not much we can do now until C&D or someone like it runs a real test.
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alexasa (03-19-2023)
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Wagon shows 4.57 for 0 to 100 kph
Test looked pretty well done.
Test looked pretty well done.
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subtract 2 tenths for wagon and 2 extra MPH in the 0-100 kph - which puts it right at RBR onboard testing. Still makes me think it will be slower than the outgoing W205. Or at least as previously stated - the w206 might win the 1/2 mile with better aero/coefficient of drag and bigger top end power.
So all that new tech. Handbuilt engine. And still not faster then my old 2020 c43 sedan? That's lame. And to design all this new stuff and not beat your competitor by even a bit sucks. Why even bother making this engine and F1 tech.
#1472
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I know, right? something doesn't add up. one of selling points was for a efficiency, but that doesn't appear to be the case. It's about 30 kg lighter engine though, should handle better at least
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#1473
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What's the efficiency compared to 2020 c43 sedan?
I'm a huge mercedes fan and this is just ridiculous.
On top of it. No configurator. Cars not even at dealer and we are 1 quarter through 2023. I mean the hits just keep coming. This car might be a dud especially at this price.
#1474
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I just check the site that measures 0-60 for all MB's and it shows w205 c43 0-60 4.1sec. If it's true, we have some mystery on our hands.
https://www.zeroto60times.com/vehicl...-60-mph-times/
https://www.zeroto60times.com/vehicl...-60-mph-times/
#1475
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I just check the site that measures 0-60 for all MB's and it shows w205 c43 0-60 4.1sec. If it's true, we have some mystery on our hands.
https://www.zeroto60times.com/vehicl...-60-mph-times/
https://www.zeroto60times.com/vehicl...-60-mph-times/