Has anyone negotiated pricing? If I'm missing the thread please direct me....

Working with a dealer and they're saying $1,800 a month on a 36/12 with $10K down on a $96K sticker car.

Obviously it's outrageous but I'm curious if anyone is even getting a discount or everything is MSRP?

 

more details needed to evaluate but it seems about $300 too much.
What is MF and Residual value? What are dealers fee? are fees and destination rolled in the payment? Taxes?

 

Not sure on the MF. The Residual they are saying is $49,524 on a $96K sticker car.

 

Is this the c63 SE?

If so, I would think they would have incentive to discount it a bit given most are saying sales for the car are slow or there hasnt been much interest.

My car is still sitting at the factory and Im not sure it has even shipped, but I have been given preliminary price of MSRP minus $4500 and small bits like free winter mats, tank of gas etc.

I am in Canada though.

 

that's your problem right there, 51.5% residual is extremely low. For comparison, C43 is 61%. Hence your payment is high. The car might not be leasable.

 

The bigger question is, why is anyone actually buying this car?….

 

Because it's got great steering, suspension, and a great interior? This might sound crazy, but I was in France recently and I saw more C63 Es (two) then M3s (One), RS5s (0), or any other comparable car.

It's a tough sell with a farily unenthusiastic powertrain and massive weight for sure. I don't think I would get one unless the lease were under $1,000 a month (which would need to come with big discounts and uncentives, the $7,500 plug in lease incentive, and an inflated residual).

 

They're not. Which is why these discussions exist.

 

at least OP is trying to lease. All that tech is going to be a nightmare down the line, throw in the depreciation and short life cycle of this 4cyl version

 

I can't speak to the steering and suspension yet. Going to be driving this thing in September at the Mercedes Test Center in Immendingen, along with the GT 63 and CLE 53. As for the interior, I've been in enough W206 and other newer models with the massive touchscreens that the interior alone will keep me from getting a W206. Between cheap materials and screens that don't look anything special and buggy software, count me out. I only recently realized that the instrument cluster screen in the W206 is exactly the same screen I have in the center in my FL 205. If that's not blatant cost cutting then I don't know what is. They just moved the center screen from the FL 205 to the instrument cluster and added a massive tablet in the center surrounded by plastic trim. Touchscreens are great to save cost for the manufacturers, but they are still a dumb idea in cars and these minimalist interiors just look cheap. They'll dazzle for a while with the UI, but eventually you notice that all it is just a screen with plastic around it. Currently have an EQS 580 loaner again with the Hyperscreen. Not a fan, either. It's angled awkwardly so that the sun constantly reflects on the glass and blinds me. Quite terrible. This one at least seems to be running updated software, because Wireless CarPlay so far hasn't crashed on me every 5 minutes as it did in previous loaners.

As for seeing them in France. France, Germany etc. all have low emission and even zero emission zones in their cities. More and more combustion cars are not allowed to be driven in certain parts of these cities. France in particular, which is very central with everything arranged around Paris, if you can't drive your car into Paris that might be a problem. France is also getting very strict with emissions in the city from what I'm hearing. More so than even Germany it seems. So with a hybrid you can drive in electric mode in those inner cities and not be subject to any of the restrictions. Not sure how they are controlling/enforcing it, though, and if they are running out of battery are they allowed to use the combustion engine?

 

I think for the efficiency and power its interesting... a good street car...unsure about track use. The straight line acceleration with at least some components' of ICE is better than full EV

The 4 cylinder is from the CLA45..which is loud and fun if you haven't ever driven one... and its hand built

Residual is 52% for 36/12.. a C43 sedan is 8% better, cheaper etc..and may be fine/fast enough for most people? but I just sold my 21 C43 (v6TT) and that had a great sound

.. there wont be any special MF's for this standard rates on most AMG's