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Just want to add some benefit of this conversion kit vs. CCB kit comes from OE:
These are much stronger and durable rotors than OE.
Rotors fit under 19" wheels which means lower maintenance cost on tire replacement.
The replacement brake pads are also cheaper than OE CCM pads.
These RB CCM rotor rings are re-furbishable at a cost lower than iron rotor ring replacement, although you probably don't need that service if for street driving.
Rotors are fully interchangeable with stock iron rotors, so you can swap them as you see need unlike OE CCB you are stuck with CCM rotors set up.
Full after-service by RacingBrake by our knowledgeable stuff, and CCM components inventory in Southern California with 30 years in brake business.
Our CCB rotor is 390x34mm, and the price has been pretty much the same w/o change. May be you were referring the price of Brembo's aftermarket rotor kit price.
Our CCM discs are made by Surface Transforms in UK, not only they last longer than OE but are re-furbishable with a cost less than iron rotor replacement.
Testimonial by A Ferrari F458 owner:
For the money, the Racing Brake CCM rotors are the best deal. These are not the same as the OEM CCM rotors, but carbon silicon carbide all the way through and almost impossible to wear out. Last rotors you will ever need, but the pads will still require periodic replacement. I have the same material in my Mov'It rotors and they are virtually indestructible.
Since our rotors are designed to use with standard iron brake (Red calipers) so the brake pads are compatible with C/E63 with more choice in compound (same as GTR, Corvette Z06, Camaro Z28 etc,) and cheaper than MB's exclusive CCM brake pads. You can swap between standard (iron) and CCM rotors anytime you want w/o being stuck with OE's CCM rotors.
RB is a full CCM brake developing & mfg company in the USA, serving all communities that CCM rotor comes as standard or options (Aston Martin, Ferrari, Porsche, GTR, Corvette, Camaro etc.) and we are proud to be able to serve MB community for all your CCM brake upgrade or replacement needs.
Edition1JPA, are you actually driving a C63 with CCBs? What do you think of them? Noisey? Feel? Worth it?
Sorry, I guess I missed this one. Yes, I do have the CCB s and they are great. They only make noise after a track day for about 2-3 days or when the car has been sitting outside in the cold on a winter day and that is only when I'm going at slow speeds and in a parking garage.
No complaints. And they brake just fine when it is -20 degrees C outside.
And I love that there is brake dust! At least on the front calipers
Based on the feedback from Ferrari and Porsche CCM brake users, if you are driving on street they shall last almost forever and never need rotor replacement.
Based on the feedback from Ferrari and Porsche CCM brake users, if you are driving on street they shall last almost forever and never need rotor replacement.
My concern here is we are confounding the terms. Porsche uses CCB. Chevy and the domestics use CCM. Then there is a special technology appropriate for dedicated track use called CCM-R. It costs a lot more than $6000.
This looks like a thread more about selling something then discussing our experiences.
I just did a track day and the only issue i had was the over heating of the rear pads and the annoying check brake wear message in the display. The CCB were awesome. We went way too deep at 130 MPH in turn 3 at ROVAL and in combo with the CCB and the Anti-lock i kept from overshooting the turn.
My only concern is how long they will last. I have hear from guys at the track that on the street CCB will last 100,000 miles.
RacingBrake can make carbon ceramic rear rotors as well that are direct replacement (no caliper change required.)
Upgrading rear rotors will greatly improve acceleration and torque response as well as improve handing and braking bias as well
You are not supposed to have Rear CCB. Its due to the traction control/e-parking brake. That is what we were discussing at the track on Sunday. The E63 and GT-s both have all 4 wheel.
You are not supposed to have Rear CCB. Its due to the traction control/e-parking brake. That is what we were discussing at the track on Sunday. The E63 and GT-s both have all 4 wheel.
Can you share with us for the real reason why an e-parking brake equipped rear can't have CCM rotors.
A rotor is simply a component to absorb and convert the kinetic energy to heat. I have seen all the late model cars with rear hydraulic activated e-brake come with CCM rotor including MB's S series and GT-S and BMW M5.
Another example I know that has rear CCM rotors with traction control are Porsche (optional), Corvette ZR1 and Camaro Z28 (standard).
The only reason I can think of why C63S don't have CCM option is for cost saving - Same idea as BMW M3/M4 which only have front CCM option.
Can you share with us for the real reason why an e-parking brake equipped rear can't have CCM rotors.
A rotor is simply a component to absorb and convert the kinetic energy to heat. I have seen all the late model cars with rear hydraulic activated e-brake come with CCM rotor including MB's S series and GT-S and BMW M5.
Another example I know that has rear CCM rotors with traction control are Porsche (optional), Corvette ZR1 and Camaro Z28 (standard).
The only reason I can think of why C63S don't have CCM option is for cost saving - Same idea as BMW M3/M4 which only have front CCM option.
Please let's use the correct terms. People are going to trust you're saying the right thing and repeat it.
here are several different methods of construction for "carbon" brakes. Each one has its own merits.
The three main types are:
CFRC (carbon fiber reinforced ceramic) - which is what AP Racing/Stillen, Alcon and Mov'It brakes use (Stillen calls it CCM-X and Brembo calls it CCM-R); the process is pioneered by the British company Surface Transforms [ST] who is the manufacturer for the discs that AP, Alcon and Mov'It use. The carbon is laid in continuous pieces and then the ceramic material is added to strengthen the structure. CFRC is superior because it is extremely durable and doesn't oxidize as quickly as other forms. CFRC is lifetime of the car if kept properly cool, but it's the most expensive production process.
CCM (ceramic composite material) - is what the SpecV, ZR1, LFA and Ferrari rotors utilize, also Chevy. It's the more ubiquitous carbon construction type, utilizing a ceramic core with chopped carbon fibers in a matrix of ceramic and resin that's heat cured. It's generally the cheapest construction method, but it's not as durable or effective as CFRC.
CCB (carbon ceramic brakes) - this is what Audi, Porsche, Bentley and Lambo use, and now BMW also. It's a core of ceramic material reinforced with carbon fiber and covered by another layer of ceramic material (better for street use).
Then there's the carbon-carbon construction that you mentioned, which is straight up carbon. Carbon-Carbon is real race car stuff [F1], utilizing super lightweight carbon discs and full carbon pads. Carbon-Carbon needs heat to operate properly (warming up), but also needs proper cooling to keep from overheating.
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Last edited by westwest888; 01-20-2016 at 06:40 PM.
RB CCB rotor kits are shipping - Better than OE CCB, because our rotors are fully interchangeable with iron brakes, and you can run them at lower maintenance cost.
CCM discs are in stock for prompt shipment, no deposit is required. Get your CCM brake installed in time for Spring.
Is there just simply a replacement pad (ala Hawk HPS) for the OE rear that will cut the dust down, to closer match the CCBs up front? I literally wash the car, drive it to work and the rear wheels are darker than the fronts.
I have the CCB on my c63s 2015, I have been searching for the front brake pads only and can't find them anywhere online, so do I need to approach the dealer and change the roters and the pads or can i just order the pads ?
12-16-2015, 02:36 PM
