NOLA AMG

I know people here are biased towards MB. But I'm getting very antsy waiting for the possible release of the C63S in September. A friend called telling me about a sweet bimmer 70 miles away. It's an 2015 M5, with CCB's, heads up and a nice radio ( .http://www.brianharrisbmw.com/new/BM...24d137c29f.htm ) . I know this comparison is apples and oranges, price and size wise. I have never had a MB. My local BMW dealer customer service is awful, wife had an X6. I guess I'm hoping you guys talk me out of it.

PeterUbers

Why talk you out of it... Go drive it and see what you think

M5 is a sweet ride ... If you have the extra $50k go do it

g-f

What about an E63 AMG? I'd take that over a M5.

amanuuh

The release of the car is next month!! Who said it was September?

NOLA AMG

My salesman. Maybe there not getting any allocations till then. He told me at best it would be late July.

amanuuh

If youre not getting any sort of super crazy deal on the m5 you should consider the E63 You've probably seen that video already though

CeSixtyThree

I personally don't like M5. M3 is a better package if you ask me.

ajag

128 fr an m5 is insanity. Wait fr c63.

PeterUbers

Next m5 getting Xdrive and more juice ... That'll be a run for the e63S awd money ....

zibby43

Find a better dealer man. That's my best advice.

For what it's worth, my MB dealer's customer service is extraordinarily good. Always a MB loaner available for routine service. Don't have to schedule service weeks in advance (it was a nightmare scheduling my BMWs).

MB Dave

Wait for the C63. fyi my salesman tried to put me into a new 2015 E63 S for 101K, so there are better deals to be had

OC6.3AMG

I've driven the M5 with the competition package and it's a beast. Sakhir orange on Silverstone Merino. Looked amazing, and sounds great too. Go drive one, and see how you like it.

If you like the M5, then might as well drive the M6 GC which is my personal favorite BMW on sale at the moment.

Vinsanity12

I have an F10 M5 and absolutely love it. My lease ends in August and my thirst for a twin turbo V8 led me to the C63s.

The M5 is a great car and I personally prefer the look of it to the E63. Another plus for the Bmw is that you can get a Euro Delivery discount on it. Unfortunately I don't believe MB does that with AMG cars. The US sticker on my car was 100k and I ended up getting mine for 89k.

I personally prefer the exterior styling of BMW but MB is right there in terms of beauty. I do agree with those saying that they are pretty different in size so that may play a factor. If its up to me I would steer you toward the C63s as it will be cheaper (not as much if you do ED) and it is a brand new model.

pushemekuratz

I currently own a m5 competition package, and so far I love it. My only complaint is the weight, which is why I plan on getting a c63s after my lease is up.

Other than that it is a great daily very comfortable and luxurious. After driving it for a year however I want something more nimble but I also want a v8 so ill be looking at a c63s after my lease is up. So really its up to what you want in a car, if you want a more luxurious cruiser that can feel its weight at times or do you want a smaller nimble sedan.

Btw that motortrend video is complete bs. Im convinced Mercedes tuned that e63s which is evident by the dyno. Stock for stock in the real world the M5 wins every race, ask me how I know

Tjdehya

the video is not bs, and you are correct the engine was tuned by MB, as is every AMG! That's why they make better performing engines.

The reason why the BMW wins is not because of the engine, it's because of the transmission. The DCT is very quick and the previous MCT was slow and terrible.

We are seeing the same issue with the weak M3 running the same times as the more powerful C63. It's because of the transmission. While the MCT has improved it is nowhere near as good as the DCT.

And yes AMG engineers tune their engines, while the M engineers tune the car speakers!

NOLA AMG

Thanks for all the info.

g-f

Yeah, pushemekuratz > motortrend, everyone knows that.

In the real world, the AWD of the E63 will widen the gap even further as in the real world, there is not track prep or tire warming burnouts. There's just water, sand and all kind of slippery stuff.

pushemekuratz

You two are clueless, this is what actually happens stock for stock in the real world, the results are even worse from a roll. As soon as the traction battle is over the AMG starts losing ground rather quickly, and the m5 in this video is not even competition package.

And as far as AMG making better performance engines? Please. That must be why the new C63 and AMG GT are using the hot v configuration that was invented by BMW. Basically copying the s63tu from the m5/m6.

BTW its not all about the transmission. The m5 has better power to weight as well as less drivetrain loss.

Tjdehya

If you want to talk about clueless, then take a look at this video
Let me know if the result looks familiar. lol
Both cars have the same engine... Perhaps you should research 4matic

unagi1

pushemekuratz

Way to ignore my whole post without refuting anything. Also you just proved my point, it really doesnt have much to do with transmission and most to do with power to weight and drivetrain loss, both of which are directly affected by the 4matic. Im done here.

pushemekuratz

If you ever actually learn to use words I would love to explain anything you didnt understand.
Because just using an emoji really only shows your lack of intellect and ability to contribute to the topic at hand.

Will617

Please go to the E63 AMG forum and feel free to continue this over there.

I really like the new C63s with the Night style package and the black wheels but unfortunately they are out of the black wheels. The new C63s were suppose to arrive at your local dealer in March. The first one coming to my local dealer is not arriving until June so I've decided to wait for the 2016's.

I've thought about getting the M5 myself after I saw a black one with black wheels. It was brand new and looked sharp. I did not get the hear the exhaust note but when I got home I visited U-tube for a bit.

For me it is just too expensive with all the options I want. I drove a friend's new 4 wheel drive 550i and that thing is quick. I only drove it for a short distance and I was able to punch it from a line and I was surprised how well it took off. With that in mind I can see what the M5 could be capable of. Big drawback for me is that the M5 is a lil bit bigger but mostly it is like 800+ lbs heavier. I plan on taking the car to the track and from the new C63s reviews it seems perfect for me.

PeterUbers

Most of my driving is under 80mph and I needed 4matic for inclement weather therefore the e63S was the winner over m5.

M5 was also overpriced compared to the e63S when I started getting real world numbers... Got my e for 92.5k new, 106k Msrp

YouTube racers and highway racers will appreciate the 70mph+ race ... So perhaps the m5 is better for them or the European rwd e63s

To the op, what about and audi rs7?

squid23

Are you leasing or buying?

If I had the money and the need for a nice car I wouldn't miss out on an entire summer (assuming september is the earliest for your AMG). Who knows how many more each of us has? And then you are first penguin in the new AMG and who knows whether they screw something up in the first year?

In any case, the M5 can be had with attractive lease offers. If you pile up some more rebates I wouldn't be surprised if the effective rates come out equal, and quite honestly the M5 is a higher value car if you like the size.