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Old Dec 21, 2015 | 12:14 PM
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Misfire.... again

I brought the car car in for a scheduled service and misfire. Both were addressed, 2 weeks later the cars is misfiring. Check engine light went on but now has disappeared. SA said they're going to have replicate, I guess hes not aware that all codes are stored.

The first time around they said it was a software issues, make me wonder what is this time...
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Old Dec 21, 2015 | 12:51 PM
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A lot of things can happen. Bad gas, spark plugs, fuel pump/injectors, low compression. How many cylinders are misfiring?
Any specific codes you are aware of?
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Old Dec 21, 2015 | 05:33 PM
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I brought the car car in for a scheduled service and misfire. Both were addressed, 2 weeks later the cars is misfiring. Check engine light went on but now has disappeared. SA said they're going to have replicate, I guess hes not aware that all codes are stored.

The first time around they said it was a software issues, make me wonder what is this time...
I had a 'software update' no issues since...
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Old Dec 21, 2015 | 05:47 PM
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I brought the car car in for a scheduled service and misfire. Both were addressed, 2 weeks later the cars is misfiring. Check engine light went on but now has disappeared. SA said they're going to have replicate, I guess hes not aware that all codes are stored.

The first time around they said it was a software issues, make me wonder what is this time...
They should test the ignition coils. After two CELs, they finally decided to replace the particular coil that the cylinder was reporting in my car. Painful service process I might add.
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Old Dec 28, 2015 | 09:34 AM
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So dealership said they cant find the problem, its likely the fault of a winter fuel blend and warm temps...
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Old Dec 29, 2015 | 12:59 PM
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Normally it's a bad coil pack, but could be bad gas also. Try to buy Shell or Chevron, 91 or 93.

The warm temps thing is not a real answer lol.
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Old Dec 29, 2015 | 03:37 PM
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Normally it's a bad coil pack, but could be bad gas also. Try to buy Shell or Chevron, 91 or 93.

The warm temps thing is not a real answer lol.

Running a winter blend in summer temperatures can definitely cause a misfire. It won't be anything catastrophic, but it very much can cause a slight misfire, especially with conditions like a lot of the country was experiencing these past few weeks. Hell, it was 84 degrees here in Houston on Christmas Day. It's usually 30+ degrees colder than that. A butane-rich winter blend isn't meant for those type of temperatures.
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Old Dec 29, 2015 | 04:02 PM
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Running a winter blend in summer temperatures can definitely cause a misfire. It won't be anything catastrophic, but it very much can cause a slight misfire, especially with conditions like a lot of the country was experiencing these past few weeks. Hell, it was 84 degrees here in Houston on Christmas Day. It's usually 30+ degrees colder than that. A butane-rich winter blend isn't meant for those type of temperatures.
I call bull****. It's never cold in coastal California and we run a winter blend with more butane. If it's warm the gasoline may evaporate faster. The car should be tuned to not misfire on junky gas.

Coil packs are usually the problem. They have a very high failure rate. Is it happening on the same cylinder?
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Old Dec 29, 2015 | 04:24 PM
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I call bull****. It's never cold in coastal California and we run a winter blend with more butane. If it's warm the gasoline may evaporate faster. The car should be tuned to not misfire on junky gas.

Coil packs are usually the problem. They have a very high failure rate. Is it happening on the same cylinder?

If I remember correctly, there are something like 20+ different blends of gasoline used all around the country. There aren't just two blends (winter and summer). What you use in California is different than what someone at the same time would be using in New York or in Texas or in Montana.

A bad coil pack could very well be the problem, but you can't discount the explanation of having the wrong blend of fuel.
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I call bull****. It's never cold in coastal California and we run a winter blend with more butane. If it's warm the gasoline may evaporate faster. The car should be tuned to not misfire on junky gas.

Coil packs are usually the problem. They have a very high failure rate. Is it happening on the same cylinder?


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Coil packs are not usually the problem for a intermittent miss.
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my 2011 CL63 has been in the shop 6 or 7 times (hard to keep count now) due to misfires. They have swapped the plugs and coil packs, but not all coil packs, finally they are able to duplicate the faults on their own. It happens when you smack the accelerator hard, the car barley runs when you stop. Turn it off and re start it runs better but not well, just good enough to get it to the shop. They keep tryng to swap plugs from on cylinder to the other but faults still occur. It does not seem to be the same cylinder every time. It is in the shop as I speak and they are still scratching their heads. I read potential causes could be CATS? Hope they resolve it this time. Love to hear from some one with the same issues?
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WTF!!

So I brought my car in to have my wheels refinished, plastic trim on the rocker panel, and a misfire. This is the 5th time I brought my car in for this. On the 4th attempt I was told software will remedy the problem. The car is now in on a 5th attempt, and I notice a misfire but no check engine lights and no codes. I believe that there is a misfire and that the latest software has a tolerance built in. Where it wont trigger a code. The dealer notices the vibration reports it to mb and mb comes back with documentation saying this is normal operation. I will have a copy of the document tomorrow.
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Old Apr 21, 2016 | 04:59 PM
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is this a fairly common problem?
are you tuned or track the car?
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Old Apr 21, 2016 | 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by MB Dave
So I brought my car in to have my wheels refinished, plastic trim on the rocker panel, and a misfire. This is the 5th time I brought my car in for this. On the 4th attempt I was told software will remedy the problem. The car is now in on a 5th attempt, and I notice a misfire but no check engine lights and no codes. I believe that there is a misfire and that the latest software has a tolerance built in. Where it wont trigger a code. The dealer notices the vibration reports it to mb and mb comes back with documentation saying this is normal operation. I will have a copy of the document tomorrow.
Check the ignition coils, I had misfires twice and replaced the ignition coils. No more problems now. Tell them to swap the coils on the misfiring cylinder to different cylinders and see if the misfire follows. If it does then replace those coils and also your spark plugs since they might have fouled.
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