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C63sAMG 06-08-2016 11:39 AM

C63s transmission slip
 
Hello everyone I am new to forums this is my first Mercedes I was an Audi guy before(RS5).

I am in love with my new car However lately I have been experiencing transmission slip after driving the car hard for instance yesterday i was at a traffic light and as soon as i got into the pedal the engine surged to 4 k and the dropped to 2k then it shifted gear and surged again to 5k i had to completely let go of the throttle and slowly engage for it to return to normal.

Regards

AlexZTuned 06-08-2016 12:07 PM


Originally Posted by C63sAMG (Post 6826836)
Hello everyone I am new to forums this is my first Mercedes I was an Audi guy before(RS5).

I am in love with my new car However lately I have been experiencing transmission slip after driving the car hard for instance yesterday i was at a traffic light and as soon as i got into the pedal the engine surged to 4 k and the dropped to 2k then it shifted gear and surged again to 5k i had to completely let go of the throttle and slowly engage for it to return to normal.

Regards

Is this at wide open throttle? Sounds more like ESP intervention. Is your ESP fully on, on sport, or off?

C63sAMG 06-08-2016 12:15 PM


Originally Posted by AlexZTuned (Post 6826876)
Is this at wide open throttle? Sounds more like ESP intervention. Is your ESP fully on, on sport, or off?

No its not at WOT just normal city driving ESP and comfort are on.

AlexZTuned 06-08-2016 12:39 PM


Originally Posted by C63sAMG (Post 6826890)
No its not at WOT just normal city driving ESP and comfort are on.

Odd, are you a MY15? You may need the transmission software update from the dealer if it hasn't already been done.

C63sAMG 06-08-2016 01:11 PM


Originally Posted by AlexZTuned (Post 6826917)
Odd, are you a MY15? You may need the transmission software update from the dealer if it hasn't already been done.

Its 2016 but I will go ask for transmission software update Thanks a lot AlexZTuned.

MB Dave 06-10-2016 11:23 AM

I park my car in the garage of my building, when pulling out in the mornings I have to go up a incline as its a basement parking. My transmission slips or looses gear going up hill on a cold morning when the parts havent warmed up. If it runs a little longer its warm enough to grab easy.

C63sAMG 06-10-2016 11:54 AM


Originally Posted by MB Dave (Post 6829061)
I park my car in the garage of my building, when pulling out in the mornings I have to go up a incline as its a basement parking. My transmission slips or looses gear going up hill on a cold morning when the parts havent warmed up. If it runs a little longer its warm enough to grab easy.

I have noticed the same thing too, I think its just the nature of MCT transmission but i am not really sure.

PunjabiM3 06-10-2016 12:18 PM


Originally Posted by C63sAMG (Post 6829089)
I have noticed the same thing too, I think its just the nature of MCT transmission but i am not really sure.

The MCT transmission is definitely quirky in slow speeds. Tends to slip, sometimes makes the car jump, etc. Definitely not nearly as smooth as something like the ZF 8-speed.

RDOCA 06-10-2016 01:32 PM


Originally Posted by PunjabiM3 (Post 6829112)
The MCT transmission is definitely quirky in slow speeds. Tends to slip, sometimes makes the car jump, etc. Definitely not nearly as smooth as something like the ZF 8-speed.

I think it is all software as Dave's problem is probably starting up the incline the car slows slightly and it starts to release the multi plate clutch as it thinks he is stopping and he increases throttle and it jerks as it reengages.
Same as coming to a stop light and you almost stop and the light goes green and you hit the throttle and it has to engage again and jerks.
MB is tweaking the software and it is better but not perfect yet.:zoom:


Remember the
ZF is a fluid coupling and that is more forgiving.

cyberorth 06-10-2016 09:33 PM

On and off its been discussed that in C mode when it should start in 2nd, a sporty attempt at the throttle will stomp the transmission in first and create similar signs as op described. I have not been able to reproduce this and I'm only throw it in the discussion.

td328 06-06-2017 03:04 AM

i have a c63s coupe and on cold mornings in comfort mode it fells like your riding the clutch. but pop it in first gear and its fine after a few hundred meters its fine. i am a lttle confused about if this is normal or not.

RDO247 06-06-2017 07:21 AM


Originally Posted by MB Dave (Post 6829061)
I park my car in the garage of my building, when pulling out in the mornings I have to go up a incline as its a basement parking. My transmission slips or looses gear going up hill on a cold morning when the parts havent warmed up. If it runs a little longer its warm enough to grab easy.

I experience this first thing in the morning when reversing down my driveway.

When I put it in Drive (always in Sports +) it feels like the cars running a 3 grand stall converter.

It free revs then then goes into gear.

I actually like it when it does this but not to sure what my neighbours think.

I havent noticed this issue issue any other time except in the morning.

auditoamg 06-06-2017 02:26 PM

I had the same issue(s) with driveway maneuvering in the mornings.
I forced the dealer to do a s/w update on the ECU for the exhaust sound problem and the driveway issues are 95% resolved.

My only issue that remains, relative to drivetrain operation is the rear wheel slip (aka drifting) that occurs with minimal throttle on a turn of any kind, or a bit of additional throttle pulling away from a stop (the latter causes the car to shimmy while the former causes the car to lose complete rear end traction and the back end breaks loose).

C63sAMG 06-06-2017 05:38 PM

I get the same thing in the morning but also after driving the car hard i.e when the transmision is hot.I am not really sure what's causing it really annoying.

vaelin 06-06-2017 07:05 PM

At AMG Academy (and later PL event) they stated it was a good idea not to run Sport+ or Race until tranny temps went white, specifically because of this kind of cold drivetrain behavior. It's just the nature of the clutch pack coupling with the auto transmission. I just baby it in Comfort until I see triple digits for both engine and oil temps, then bump it into I* (Sport+ everything but suspension.)

srO_Michael_Orz 06-07-2017 10:23 AM

I believe this is what you are talking about, mine happens even 2000KM, it happens in every mode(C S S+ M), whatever its reach to operating temp or not. Tried software update still happen sometimes. After replace transmission valve body, then its gone.

C63sAMG 06-08-2017 08:25 AM

Yes, this what happens with my car.Thanks a lot for documenting it as it happens pretty randomly but frequently.I guess I will take it to the dealer and ask them to check the transmission valve body.

auditoamg 06-08-2017 09:05 PM

Had this issue until dealer flashed with update... Now gone.

td328 07-30-2017 02:56 AM

I have dropped my car of at the dealer on Thursday they have come back to me with yes there is a problem and they have a fault code from the transmission. and they need the car for a bit longer to sort it out so I will update when they get back to me.

brad65ford 07-30-2017 12:29 PM


Originally Posted by PunjabiM3 (Post 6829112)
The MCT transmission is definitely quirky in slow speeds. Tends to slip, sometimes makes the car jump, etc. Definitely not nearly as smooth as something like the ZF 8-speed.

This

td328 08-06-2017 01:14 AM

I have picked up the car with an apparent software upgrade to fix the problem. But the problem still exists and now they want to further investigate with different c63s veichles to see if it's normal when cold. Which I think means I need to find a smarter Mercedes dealership.

peteandrino 02-21-2018 12:11 AM

C63s
 
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What’s up guys,

So I own a 2015 C63s edition one and I have noticed after doing 3-4 pulls in any sport mode/race mode when shifting from 3rd -4th gear the car feels like it falls on its face and the power cuts out for a few seconds then kicks back on. Iv brought it to the dealer and they keep saying nothings wrong. I even took the “AMG specialist” for a ride and didn’t see anything wrong. This happens at full throttle. I’ve attached a video. If you listen closely you can hear it. Sounds like the motor bogs out.....

Fame Douglas 02-21-2018 02:26 PM

It looks like you're losing boost in the video? It's hard for me to tell because it's shaky and I have the volume muted. But what you describe sounds like the issue w/ pinched or collapsing vacuum lines.

peteandrino 02-21-2018 02:49 PM


Originally Posted by Fame Douglas (Post 7386861)
It looks like you're losing boost in the video? It's hard for me to tell because it's shaky and I have the volume muted. But what you describe sounds like the issue w/ pinched or collapsing vacuum lines.

Yes, basically loosing boost since the power cuts off. But it’s only in that gear change from 3rd to 4th which is weird. Wouldn’t it be happening in every gear after it gets a little hot..? I will have my mechanic check out the vacuum lines to see if they are pinched anywhere

Fordgt40 02-21-2018 03:50 PM


Originally Posted by td328 (Post 7231096)
I have picked up the car with an apparent software upgrade to fix the problem. But the problem still exists and now they want to further investigate with different c63s veichles to see if it's normal when cold. Which I think means I need to find a smarter Mercedes dealership.

My brand new one does that, my previous one also did it, goes away when warmed up.


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