W205 C63 C63S AMG ECU Tuning Thread
Hi everyone, As a vendor here one of the most common questions asked is regarding the best ECU tune available for the W205 platform. While I can't answer which is "best", I figured a thread where all tunes can be listed with dyno sheets and info would be beneficial for those in the market for a tune. I will list all the tunes below (That I am aware of) with dyno sheets if available and mods on the car. Feel free to add any tune I have missed or provide your dyno sheet with mods on your car and I will add it. If interested in a quote on one of these tunes then please PM or email me at Golan@Autotalent.com. Please do not post asking for pricing as I would like to keep this thread on track. 1. PP-Performance - pp-performance.de/en/tuning/chiptuning/ Manufacturer claims: Stage 1: 608 crank hp / 627 ft lbs Stage 2 (Catless DP): 638 crank hp / 638 ft lbs Stage 1 Dyno: https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...0bda35a2b9.jpg Stage 2 Dyno: https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...76d42669c.jpeg 2. EuroCharged - http://www.eurocharged.com/products/.../c63-2015.html Manufacturer claims: 150hp / 150 torque https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...7d8e313281.jpg 3. Weistec - http://weistec.com/all/c/c-63/2015-w...u-upgrade.html Manufacturer claims: Stage 1: +68 Wheel HP / +80 Ft Lbs with air filters Stage 2 (Catless DP): +97 Wheel HP / +114 Ft Lbs with air filters + catless downpipe. https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...73a1785519.jpg https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...555bec1624.jpg 4. RennTech - http://www.renntechmercedes.com/inde...esent/c-63-amg Manufacturer claims: 601HP / 657 FT LBS https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...321767681e.jpg 5. OE Tuning - http://www.oetuning.com/products/mer...-0l-v8-biturbo Manufacturer claims: 585HP / 665 FT LBS https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...b65db5d830.jpg |
I am very happy with my OE Tune. Running Weistec Downipes + BMC Air filters. Once I get a chance to take the car to an independent dyno, I will post a graph for people to compare.
This is the a graph of Dime tune I was running (very weak and glitchy - wouldn't recommend it to anyone). Independent dyno: https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...669326d647.png https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...e6987cf03b.jpg |
What are all kind of gas are all those tuners running?
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Originally Posted by CarHol
(Post 7049471)
What are all kind of gas are all those tuners running?
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Originally Posted by AutoTalent
(Post 7050397)
Not sure on all. PP-Performance used 91. I will contact all of these tuners and ask. Wll then update the OP.
Can you update date all of us who are waiting for an OBD2 tunes to be released. Im in Australia so can't pull my ecu and send over seas everytime before and after servicing. My luck it would get lost overseas someone. Are there any any companies actively working on cracking the OBD2? |
I'm looking at doing OE tuning eventually. My shop in Sydney does this in-house.
Might not be the best figures but its good enough with only good reviews so far from what I've heard. |
Originally Posted by RDO247
(Post 7051538)
Are there any any companies actively working on cracking the OBD2?
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Originally Posted by Sanch
(Post 7051666)
I'm looking at doing OE tuning eventually. My shop in Sydney does this in-house.
Might not be the best figures but its good enough with only good reviews so far from what I've heard. |
Can anyone explain why there seems to be less improvement on top end power? Is it just the limitations of the turbos?
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Originally Posted by Andyroo
(Post 7051686)
Can anyone explain why there seems to be no improvement on top end power? Is it just the limitations of the turbos?
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Originally Posted by Guilty
(Post 7051692)
i think so. They do run out of breath very quickly. I tend to shift at 6k rpm if I'm doing a run against someome. Especially if they're N/A. Feels like the car runs out of fuel at the top end or maybe it's just the small turbos. I'm itching to get a turbo upgrade but I'm worried about my tranny and engine internals. I wish there was more unbiased reviews in real life situation out there
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Originally Posted by Guilty
(Post 7051679)
I'd rather have a conversative and safe tune than one that'll cause my engine to run hot like the previous one I had.
If I wanted a car over 600+HP, I'll but one and not push this car to its limit. This is a daily commuter need to play it safe and not break down on the free way. :rolf: |
Originally Posted by Andyroo
(Post 7051697)
I wonder if the new E63 twin scroll turbos help with the top end to get that extra peak power? Also, I wonder if the E63 internals and transmission are updated to cope?
The exact same engine I believe is going into the new 2018 G63. Including the interior will be like the E class they recon. Keen to see the updates on that. |
Originally Posted by Sanch
(Post 7051706)
They do and they are.
The exact same engine I believe is going into the new 2018 G63. Including the interior will be like the E class they recon. Keen to see the updates on that. |
Originally Posted by Guilty
(Post 7051748)
Are we getting the new E63 coupe together when it comes out? Haha
E50 AMG coupe is the closest thing which is the V6 turbo version. Might just have to wait it out, I'm sure they crazies at AMG are working on something good for us ;) |
Originally Posted by Sanch
(Post 7051756)
Man, they've said no at the last show. Crushed my dreams haha
E50 AMG coupe is the closest thing which is the V6 turbo version. Might just have to wait it out, I'm sure they crazies at AMG are working on something good for us ;) |
Originally Posted by Guilty
(Post 7051748)
Are we getting the new E63 coupe together when it comes out? Haha
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Originally Posted by YICS NZ
(Post 7051785)
would be too heavy and complicated to enjoy any 'off' moments. Should jst get a gtr for straight line accelaration instead.
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Originally Posted by Guilty
(Post 7051802)
a Nissan GT-R or an AMG gtr?
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Originally Posted by YICS NZ
(Post 7051785)
would be too heavy and complicated to enjoy any 'off' moments. Should jst get a gtr for straight line accelaration instead.
1) A car that heavy can hit 0-100 in 3.3 or 3.4 secs will definitely not feel heavy 2) The new 4 Matic+ system is perfect for those craving the all wheel option as well as the rear wheel option 3)Being able to smoke a few super cars worth double in price - priceless Even though there is no coupe (I have no need for 4 doors), I'm very keen to test drive the new E63s sedan. It is a very good indication of future/ necxt level cars to come out of AMG. |
Originally Posted by RDO247
(Post 7051538)
This a great thread, thank you.
Can you update date all of us who are waiting for an OBD2 tunes to be released. Im in Australia so can't pull my ecu and send over seas everytime before and after servicing. My luck it would get lost overseas someone. Are there any any companies actively working on cracking the OBD2? |
Golan.
I went with DME, they work out of NJ and travel around to do the flashes. Website http://dmetuning.com/#homePage They offer Stage 1 and 2 Here is a stage 1 dyno run, they are going to do a stage 2 run soon, if you need any more info to add lmk https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...1342c0f41.jpeg |
Originally Posted by Sanch
(Post 7051815)
I have yet to test drive one, but from the reviews I can definitely gather these facts.
1) A car that heavy can hit 0-100 in 3.3 or 3.4 secs will definitely not feel heavy 2) The new 4 Matic+ system is perfect for those craving the all wheel option as well as the rear wheel option 3)Being able to smoke a few super cars worth double in price - priceless Even though there is no coupe (I have no need for 4 doors), I'm very keen to test drive the new E63s sedan. It is a very good indication of future/ necxt level cars to come out of AMG. My rs6 felt heavy n dull. I gave it up after test driving the new c63s (i did have the na v8 too but the new one is still better). i dont think e63 is more fun to drive than our c63s, yes the 4wd definitely gives confidence at launching, but is it more fun to be pushed to its limit? Probably not. It aims at a totally different market than c63. |
Originally Posted by YICS NZ
(Post 7052022)
my previous nissan gtr r35 hits 100kmh in 2.7s, and yes its damn heavy. I like the cornering of a stock c63s for sure (i got my gtr on 285/305 tires to compensation the grip for its weight n it was a monster then). The awd works well on a launch but i prefer our tail happy c63s that gives alot more fun/character. My old 993 turbo was better fun than the gtr bcoz its light with plenty mechanical grip, which gives feel in cornering, whereas gtr certainly lacks that.
My rs6 felt heavy n dull. I gave it up after test driving the new c63s (i did have the na v8 too but the new one is still better). i dont think e63 is more fun to drive than our c63s, yes the 4wd definitely gives confidence at launching, but is it more fun to be pushed to its limit? Probably not. It aims at a totally different market than c63. Agree, the C, E ans S classes are completely different markets. I'm just keen to test drive the new E63s sedan, from what I've heard its all good things. Need to work that out for myself. lol |
Originally Posted by Sanch
(Post 7052065)
I know what you mean, and definitely can't compare a sedan it to a GTR R35 or a Turbo Porsche - which are pure beasts. I agree with the Rs6, its a massive car.
Agree, the C, E ans S classes are completely different markets. I'm just keen to test drive the new E63s sedan, from what I've heard its all good things. Need to work that out for myself. lol |
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