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RDO247 08-02-2017 08:00 AM

Air Intake Options
 
I saw this intake on a you tube vid of a GAD w205 C63S today.

Whats everyone think of this setup?

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...f755aba979.png

skim7x 08-02-2017 08:40 AM

Probably works just fine. Would be more optional to have a cold air intake rather than a hot air intake, but temps should become reasonable through the intercooler anyways... But even then, cooler is always better...

EDIT: didn't see initially that they are connected to the air intake inlets... So they should get cold air... Still has too many bends, though, for optimal air flow. In the end you just have to test it out and see the real world numbers. Until then, it's all just conjecture.

RDO247 08-02-2017 09:16 AM


Originally Posted by skim7x (Post 7227640)
Probably works just fine. Would be more optional to have a cold air intake rather than a hot air intake, but temps should become reasonable through the intercooler anyways... But even then, cooler is always better...

EDIT: didn't see initially that they are connected to the air intake inlets... So they should get cold air... Still has too many bends, though, for optimal air flow. In the end you just have to test it out and see the real world numbers. Until then, it's all just conjecture.

Looks like the boxes seal hard up against the bonnet to stop the hot engine bay air entering the boxes.

I wonder if the larger surface area of these pod filters make much of a difference over the factory air box flat filters.

I've seen these other intake set ups as well.

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...d1dae30db.jpeg
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...b78195e434.png
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...d3214b39d.jpeg

shardul 08-02-2017 09:33 AM

Does the GAD car have a vented hood?

brad65ford 08-02-2017 02:38 PM

In the last photo its Andrew's setup. Love these style better then the carbon fiber ones that are 2-4k on the maket. Surprised no one has created one out of plastic that work and look like these. Already its been said the stock intake is very restrictive on the C63s's
https://www.instagram.com/power_technik/

RDO247 08-02-2017 04:40 PM


Originally Posted by shardul (Post 7227668)
Does the GAD car have a vented hood?

No vented hood.

Some dyno graphs would be great for these setups.

I think i Ng I like the first setup with the open boxes that seal against the bonnet but with Carbon intake tubes.

shardul 08-03-2017 11:38 AM

We have this in stock. I have sold quite a few sets. Increases the volume of the stock air box coupled with high flow air filters.

http://ultimatepd.com/2003-2007-merc...boost-kit.html

brad65ford 08-03-2017 11:57 AM


Originally Posted by shardul (Post 7228811)
We have this in stock. I have sold quite a few sets. Increases the volume of the stock air box coupled with high flow air filters.

http://ultimatepd.com/2003-2007-merc...boost-kit.html

wow bold claim of 25 rwhp with just these. Any pictures of what the actual product looks like? Assuming its a spacer and bolts for 450 correct? No filters for that price correct?

Can you explain how volume increases results in increase power? Would think increasing flow is the issue though again you guys may know more on the subject.

shardul 08-03-2017 01:28 PM


Originally Posted by brad65ford (Post 7228840)
wow bold claim of 25 rwhp with just these. Any pictures of what the actual product looks like? Assuming its a spacer and bolts for 450 correct? No filters for that price correct?

Can you explain how volume increases results in increase power? Would think increasing flow is the issue though again you guys may know more on the subject.

Filters are included.

Similar results have be obtained on the M157. You can view this thread at your leisure.

https://mbworld.org/forums/w212-amg/...boost-kit.html

brad65ford 08-03-2017 01:32 PM

Ok so filters are probalby help rwhp. Do you have dyno graphs of just the spacers in and wiht out with stock filter for the w205?

shardul 08-03-2017 01:54 PM


Originally Posted by brad65ford (Post 7228970)
Ok so filters are probalby help rwhp. Do you have dyno graphs of just the spacers in and wiht out with stock filter for the w205?

I will ask my customer who have installed them if they can send me some and when I get them I will post them in this thread.

brad65ford 08-03-2017 01:55 PM

Wow strange, so you guys created a part that you have no data on?

shardul 08-03-2017 02:11 PM


Originally Posted by brad65ford (Post 7229009)
Wow strange, so you guys created a part that you have no data on?

Didn't you read the description on the website with the data.
I have respectfully started in my previous post that I will post some graphs when I get them for individuals / non biased 3rd parties so please be patient and you will have the info.

brad65ford 08-03-2017 02:14 PM


Originally Posted by shardul (Post 7229029)
Didn't you read the description on the website with the data.
I have respectfully started in my previous post that I will post some graphs when I get them for individuals / non biased 3rd parties so please be patient and you will have the info.

Sure did, seems like a great theory just surprised one won't show data behing a product they created especially when its "said" go give more rwhp. hell most everyone would believe you just throw up a dyno graph of a heat strocked multiple run w205. Use the heat stroked run as before and the better run as after intake is installed.

Sorry to bust your balls bro just strange to offer something with out your own results and request dyno's runs and results from your customers. Won't air flow volume testing simliar to what the ported blower guys use be ideal for this type of product? BTW i'm not saying i wouldn't purchase this either i probalby would / will if there was some data behind it.

shardul 08-03-2017 02:20 PM


Originally Posted by brad65ford (Post 7229032)
Sure did, seems like a great theory just surprised one won't show data behing a product they created especially when its "said" go give more rwhp. hell most everyone would believe you just throw up a dyno graph of a heat strocked multiple run w205. Use the heat stroked run as before and the better run as after intake is installed.

Sorry to bust your balls bro just strange to offer something with out your own results and request dyno's runs and results from your customers. Won't air flow volume testing simliar to what the ported blower guys use be ideal for this type of product? BTW i'm not saying i wouldn't purchase this either i probalby would / will if there was some data behind it.

Understood and we will work on getting a non related 3rd party to post up a review in a new thread.

brad65ford 08-03-2017 02:23 PM

BTW the reason i didn't purchase your kit on my last w204 c63 was because i didn't believe it would make that much of a difference. If i'm not the only one thinking this then maybe there are others.

shardul 08-03-2017 02:39 PM


Originally Posted by brad65ford (Post 7229047)
BTW the reason i didn't purchase your kit on my last w204 c63 was because i didn't believe it would make that much of a difference. If i'm not the only one thinking this then maybe there are others.

But then again EC ATX posted dyno results for M156 kit.

RDO247 08-03-2017 04:14 PM

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...00a630b24.jpeg

xxxPaulxxx 08-04-2017 02:37 AM

So there are/will be 4 more options:

1. Arma https://www.armaspeedusa.com/product...ber-intake-kit
seems to be a nice sets, I would just be a bit concerned about the openings on the side of the box (hot air from the engine bay?) 1999$

2. Dime http://dimeracing.com/store/m177-car...ox-system.html looks realy good but the price is high 3999$

3. Weistec http://weistec.com/all/c/c-63/2015-w...oxes-m177.html there is still no price but it should be released in the next 1-2 weeks (according to weistec)

4. Eventuri will release a kit at the end of year/ beginning of the next year


At the moment I wait for the price and results from Weistec and than choose between Dime & Weistec

RDO247 08-04-2017 04:45 AM

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...02797047f.jpegDime Racing
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...8fc36be1c.jpegWeistec
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...80da5664d.jpegArma Speed

Chaser123 01-27-2018 05:38 PM

Also AMS is releasing one as well.

RDO247 01-27-2018 05:58 PM


Originally Posted by Chaser123 (Post 7367919)
Also AMS is releasing one as well.

Any pictures yet Chaser?


SAIVIII 01-28-2018 02:10 AM

Arma claims 6 hp so i dont think its worth it ( but there is someone with upgraded turbos had a great result from them ) .

weistec airbox looks good

hope eventuri release there kit soon

SAIVIII 01-28-2018 02:12 AM


Originally Posted by Chaser123 (Post 7367919)
Also AMS is releasing one as well.

are you sure ? Cuz i asked them multiple times but they didnt answer

Chaser123 01-29-2018 10:31 PM

Facebook Post
This intake for 5.5 just been released and m177 is next that’s what I’ve been told.
https://www.amsperformance.com/cart/alpha-performance-mercedes-benz-e63-amg-carbon-fiber-intake-system-copy.html/



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