Pull both paddles = neutral?
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Pull both paddles = neutral?
Shopping and looking closely at W205 sedans...coming from the PDK world. Does the MB box work the same where pulling both paddles will give you neutral?
Hopefully i can arrange a test drive this week, my local dealer does not have one on the lot
Hopefully i can arrange a test drive this week, my local dealer does not have one on the lot
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Unfortunately not, the only way to go into neutral is via the gear selector stalk.
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Why would you want to though? You'd rarely need to engage neutral, and if you do, using the stalk is fine.
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The distinction is (slightly) important as the GT3 PDK-S paddle neutral controls the clutches in a more explicit manner - you pull the paddles back to engage paddle neutral and release to engage the gear. This can be done from a stop or moving and does not require the brake pedal to be depressed. You can perform a clutch dump, or use it on the fly on the track to quickly hop out of gear.
On the other hand, the "regular" PDK requires that you release and then "click" one of the paddles to enter and leave paddle neutral, respectively. It will also rev match for you automatically so a clutch dump is not possible. If you are completely stopped, you must use the brake pedal to re-engage the gear. So it is literally like moving the gear lever between N and D and thus, in my opinion, less useful, although I think the usefulness in either case (PDK-S vs PDK) is questionable at best.
Having said that, I owned a 981 with PDK and while the feature as implemented is more a novelty than anything else, I do admit to using it and "free-revving" while moving a few times.
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Well, it was unclear from the OP's post if he meant the PDK in the 991+ GT3 (PDK-S) or the more normal version in the 991/981 cars.
The distinction is (slightly) important as the GT3 PDK-S paddle neutral controls the clutches in a more explicit manner - you pull the paddles back to engage paddle neutral and release to engage the gear. This can be done from a stop or moving and does not require the brake pedal to be depressed. You can perform a clutch dump, or use it on the fly on the track to quickly hop out of gear.
On the other hand, the "regular" PDK requires that you release and then "click" one of the paddles to enter and leave paddle neutral, respectively. It will also rev match for you automatically so a clutch dump is not possible. If you are completely stopped, you must use the brake pedal to re-engage the gear. So it is literally like moving the gear lever between N and D and thus, in my opinion, less useful, although I think the usefulness in either case (PDK-S vs PDK) is questionable at best.
Having said that, I owned a 981 with PDK and while the feature as implemented is more a novelty than anything else, I do admit to using it and "free-revving" while moving a few times.
The distinction is (slightly) important as the GT3 PDK-S paddle neutral controls the clutches in a more explicit manner - you pull the paddles back to engage paddle neutral and release to engage the gear. This can be done from a stop or moving and does not require the brake pedal to be depressed. You can perform a clutch dump, or use it on the fly on the track to quickly hop out of gear.
On the other hand, the "regular" PDK requires that you release and then "click" one of the paddles to enter and leave paddle neutral, respectively. It will also rev match for you automatically so a clutch dump is not possible. If you are completely stopped, you must use the brake pedal to re-engage the gear. So it is literally like moving the gear lever between N and D and thus, in my opinion, less useful, although I think the usefulness in either case (PDK-S vs PDK) is questionable at best.
Having said that, I owned a 981 with PDK and while the feature as implemented is more a novelty than anything else, I do admit to using it and "free-revving" while moving a few times.
My C63S coupe is almost here. But going from my current manual car into a C63S, the thing I will miss most is putting in the clutch or shifting quickly into neutral and revving to my heart's desire whenever I want!
But hopefully the sound of the exhaust and farts on downshifts/upshifts will make up for it.
