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01-28-2019, 12:48 PM
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700 dollar fine and 1 year suspended license! Fawk!
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01-28-2019, 01:57 PM
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You should appeal that. I hope you didn't pay your lawyer for that, cuz you coulda done just as well on your own. They threw the book AND gavel at you.
Hire a good lawyer. Try these guys: https://www.theticketclinic.com/. They have out of state referrals. Or one of these guys: https://www.avvo.com/search/lawyer_s...sort=relevancy. Get it out of the General District Court (which lives off of traffic citations) and into the Circuit Court (where they're dealing with manslaughter, assault, and other crimes and felonies). And based on your lawyer's recs, maybe do a Driver Improvement Course, and see if you can get your license reinstated with some modified punishment. That's my $0.02.
Hire a good lawyer. Try these guys: https://www.theticketclinic.com/. They have out of state referrals. Or one of these guys: https://www.avvo.com/search/lawyer_s...sort=relevancy. Get it out of the General District Court (which lives off of traffic citations) and into the Circuit Court (where they're dealing with manslaughter, assault, and other crimes and felonies). And based on your lawyer's recs, maybe do a Driver Improvement Course, and see if you can get your license reinstated with some modified punishment. That's my $0.02.
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01-28-2019, 04:40 PM
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Wow, that's brutal. 1-year License suspension seems pretty harsh for 103 MPH.
This outlines the importance of a good Radar Detector and Laser Jammer. The cost up front may be $2K, but the savings in fine and most importantly, your license is priceless.
I would definitely appeal this, and good luck with the appeal!
This outlines the importance of a good Radar Detector and Laser Jammer. The cost up front may be $2K, but the savings in fine and most importantly, your license is priceless.
I would definitely appeal this, and good luck with the appeal!
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01-28-2019, 04:46 PM
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Waze is awesome!
just yesterday and today.
"police reported ahead"
a minute later the police is there.
i also have a Escort Max360c radar.
just yesterday and today.
"police reported ahead"
a minute later the police is there.
i also have a Escort Max360c radar.
01-28-2019, 04:59 PM
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WOW! That's really harsh for a speeding ticket. Like others mentioned, appeal, get a attorney and have him substitute community service or driving courses in lieu of suspension.
There's a service called ticket void in your state that can help your appeal: https://www.ticketvoid.com/state/Nor...-PiWrt868-7254
These states with their archaic laws need to be changed to reflect the times! It is the 21st century!
There's a service called ticket void in your state that can help your appeal: https://www.ticketvoid.com/state/Nor...-PiWrt868-7254
These states with their archaic laws need to be changed to reflect the times! It is the 21st century!
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01-28-2019, 05:00 PM
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Sorry to thread jack OP, hope you get yours resolved better!
01-28-2019, 05:44 PM
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I use Waze + Uniden R3 + Anti-Laser Priority with TX head.
Between those 3, you should stay out of trouble most of the time.
01-28-2019, 06:09 PM
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Really sorry to hear that. Some states have, and is there any way (I'm sure you probably checked) to get a "restricted" or "red license." So you can drive to and from work - perhaps? Even some other factor that would warrant this.
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01-28-2019, 06:09 PM
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Maybe I'm the old man here (at least at heart). By going significantly above the speed limit up into triple-digit speeds, you are putting everyone around you in extreme danger. You could easily have killed someone, including yourself. Even if you think the road is clear, clean, and unoccupied. It never really ever is. It doesn't matter how great of a driver you are, how easily your car can handle high speeds, or how wide open you think the road ahead is. There is no excuse for putting the lives of others at risk so you can significantly break the law.
If you want to go that fast, take it to the track.
If you want to go that fast, take it to the track.
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01-28-2019, 06:55 PM
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Maybe I'm the old man here (at least at heart). By going significantly above the speed limit up into triple-digit speeds, you are putting everyone around you in extreme danger. You could easily have killed someone, including yourself. Even if you think the road is clear, clean, and unoccupied. It never really ever is. It doesn't matter how great of a driver you are, how easily your car can handle high speeds, or how wide open you think the road ahead is. There is no excuse for putting the lives of others at risk so you can significantly break the law.
If you want to go that fast, take it to the track.
If you want to go that fast, take it to the track.
01-29-2019, 02:19 PM
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Even if you think the road is clear, clean, and unoccupied. It never really ever is. It doesn't matter how great of a driver you are, how easily your car can handle high speeds, or how wide open you think the road ahead is. There is no excuse for putting the lives of others at risk so you can significantly break the law.
if you going on a LONG TRIP like 4+ hours, going a bit faster cut down on the times significantly.
this is just a legal way for the governments to rob you !
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01-29-2019, 03:37 PM
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Maybe I'm the old man here (at least at heart). By going significantly above the speed limit up into triple-digit speeds, you are putting everyone around you in extreme danger. You could easily have killed someone, including yourself. Even if you think the road is clear, clean, and unoccupied. It never really ever is. It doesn't matter how great of a driver you are, how easily your car can handle high speeds, or how wide open you think the road ahead is. There is no excuse for putting the lives of others at risk so you can significantly break the law.
If you want to go that fast, take it to the track.
If you want to go that fast, take it to the track.
01-30-2019, 02:02 PM
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Damn, these are some crazy stories! Texas is not bad at all in this regard. A few years ago I got popped doing 110 in a 35 on my Ducati. $369 ticket and I thought I was getting screwed. I guess it depends on the cops here because the trooper said several times he could arrest me if he wanted to but just gave me the ticket and told me to slow the **** down.
01-30-2019, 04:25 PM
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Damn, these are some crazy stories! Texas is not bad at all in this regard. A few years ago I got popped doing 110 in a 35 on my Ducati. $369 ticket and I thought I was getting screwed. I guess it depends on the cops here because the trooper said several times he could arrest me if he wanted to but just gave me the ticket and told me to slow the **** down.
01-30-2019, 06:07 PM
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There was a news story a few weeks ago about how the police chief here in Houston personally pulled over someone for going 140 mph on the freeway. I don't remember er the specifics, but he basically just issued the ticket with a fine and that was that. No Reckless Driving charge. No impound ding his car. Nothing. Just a hefty ticket.
02-05-2019, 08:20 AM
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You were only 10 MPH over the limit, so you should be in good shape. Lucky you in some respects. VA. is very tough on speeding.
A friend of mine who had a similar sports car, spent time in jail for speeding.
Any driving speed 20 miles over the limit or any driving over 80 mph is considered reckless driving. In Virginia reckless driving is a class one misdemeanor. That means up to 12 months in jail. Almost every jurisdiction in Virginia will consider jail time for speeds over 100 mph. Many will consider jail for speeds 30 miles over any speed limit.
VA is one of the worst for speeding. https://www.vaughancjones.com/richmo...ing-too-fast-/
A friend of mine who had a similar sports car, spent time in jail for speeding.
Any driving speed 20 miles over the limit or any driving over 80 mph is considered reckless driving. In Virginia reckless driving is a class one misdemeanor. That means up to 12 months in jail. Almost every jurisdiction in Virginia will consider jail time for speeds over 100 mph. Many will consider jail for speeds 30 miles over any speed limit.
VA is one of the worst for speeding. https://www.vaughancjones.com/richmo...ing-too-fast-/
02-05-2019, 08:53 AM
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Haha. Just got pulled over in Germany (Bavaria). I was leisurely cruising at 110 mph when I noticed a car following me for a while. Then it took me over and flashed 'Polizei' / follow me. When they came to the car I asked if I went too fast. Not at all, was the answer. They were just curious where my license plate was from (Alberta, Canada). When I told them they wished me well for the rest of my journey and departed. I wish all my encounters with police were like this...
02-05-2019, 09:11 AM
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Haha. Just got pulled over in Germany (Bavaria). I was leisurely cruising at 110 mph when I noticed a car following me for a while. Then it took me over and flashed 'Polizei' / follow me. When they came to the car I asked if I went too fast. Not at all, was the answer. They were just curious where my license plate was from (Alberta, Canada). When I told them they wished me well for the rest of my journey and departed. I wish all my encounters with police were like this...
02-06-2019, 02:44 AM
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Most of them have no speed limits. The limits are in place only close to bigger cities and autobahn intersections. Yet German fatalities are less per inhabitant or mile driven than in US. However, if the Greens in Germany have their way they will introduce speed limits in order to cut CO2 emissions. I look forward to the days of 2-cylinder Porsches and AMG GTs. It'll make me insanely happy to drive such car at 30 mph knowing how I'm supposedly saving the world.
02-07-2019, 01:44 PM
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Maybe I'm the old man here (at least at heart). By going significantly above the speed limit up into triple-digit speeds, you are putting everyone around you in extreme danger. You could easily have killed someone, including yourself. Even if you think the road is clear, clean, and unoccupied. It never really ever is. It doesn't matter how great of a driver you are, how easily your car can handle high speeds, or how wide open you think the road ahead is. There is no excuse for putting the lives of others at risk so you can significantly break the law.
If you want to go that fast, take it to the track.
If you want to go that fast, take it to the track.
"The National Maximum Speed Law (NMSL) was a provision of the federal government of the United States 1974 Emergency Highway Energy Conservation Act that prohibited speed limits higher than 55 miles per hour (90 km/h). It was drafted in response to oil price spikes and supply disruptions during the 1973 oil crisis."
This had NOTHING to do with safety. Whatsoever. It's also why emissions testing was done at 55mph. Manufacturers were instructed to maximize fuel economy at the new national speed limit.
Then there's the issue of the technology. Cars and their safety equipment as well as abilities (handling, braking, etc) have come a LONG way since the 1970s. Yet speed limits still remain at 55mph at many places (like Northern VA, which we referenced earlier) due to one and only one factor: local revenue generation. Which is why many states (like PA, for example) don't allow local law enforcement to utilize radar at all. Only State Police, to prevent local police from abusing speed limit laws for local revenue generation.
In addition to this, time and time again, studies have found that the safest thing isn't a certain magical number; it's maintaining the speed of the flow of traffic. So if you're doing 55mph when everyone else around you is doing an average of 83mph, you're essentially a non-moving object creating a significant safety hazard for all who are around you.
The Autobahn point is also well received. They statistically have much lower death rates yet average much higher travel speeds. Spearheading this is the amount of training required to obtain a driver's license in Germany, and the frequency of locations of EMS services throughout the Autobahn.
Lastly, again sticking with science, statistically speaking, the likelihood of significant bodily injury markedly increases once you past 35mph. Past that, the increase in injury and possible death levels off in comparison to the increase in speed. Ie, it's not a linear increase. Your chances of a significant injury between 55mph and 85mph don't change THAT much.
Having said that, is it smart or generally safe to be doing 100mph on a highway with poorly trained and unsuspecting drivers? Of course not. But if you tell me that I'm putting "everyone" at danger by literally cruising at 100mph on an open highway at 5AM, where me and less than a dozen cars are the only vehicles are on the road is a significant danger...I'd say, sorry bud, I simply disagree with you. I think the guy who's stubborn and holding up the left lane to "maintain the speed limit," thinking he's a citizen's officer, and failing to yield to faster moving traffic is MUCH more dangerous than I am. That's what leads to cars swerving and switching lanes, which leads to accidents, and also leads to road rage. It's also illegal in many states, which require you to yield to faster traffic.
That's my $0.02, and I'm sticking to it.
02-07-2019, 02:04 PM
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As others have said, this statement is more founded in opinion than fact. To quote:
"The National Maximum Speed Law (NMSL) was a provision of the federal government of the United States 1974 Emergency Highway Energy Conservation Act that prohibited speed limits higher than 55 miles per hour (90 km/h). It was drafted in response to oil price spikes and supply disruptions during the 1973 oil crisis."
This had NOTHING to do with safety. Whatsoever. It's also why emissions testing was done at 55mph. Manufacturers were instructed to maximize fuel economy at the new national speed limit.
Then there's the issue of the technology. Cars and their safety equipment as well as abilities (handling, braking, etc) have come a LONG way since the 1970s. Yet speed limits still remain at 55mph at many places (like Northern VA, which we referenced earlier) due to one and only one factor: local revenue generation. Which is why many states (like PA, for example) don't allow local law enforcement to utilize radar at all. Only State Police, to prevent local police from abusing speed limit laws for local revenue generation.
In addition to this, time and time again, studies have found that the safest thing isn't a certain magical number; it's maintaining the speed of the flow of traffic. So if you're doing 55mph when everyone else around you is doing an average of 83mph, you're essentially a non-moving object creating a significant safety hazard for all who are around you.
The Autobahn point is also well received. They statistically have much lower death rates yet average much higher travel speeds. Spearheading this is the amount of training required to obtain a driver's license in Germany, and the frequency of locations of EMS services throughout the Autobahn.
Lastly, again sticking with science, statistically speaking, the likelihood of significant bodily injury markedly increases once you past 35mph. Past that, the increase in injury and possible death levels off in comparison to the increase in speed. Ie, it's not a linear increase. Your chances of a significant injury between 55mph and 85mph don't change THAT much.
Having said that, is it smart or generally safe to be doing 100mph on a highway with poorly trained and unsuspecting drivers? Of course not. But if you tell me that I'm putting "everyone" at danger by literally cruising at 100mph on an open highway at 5AM, where me and less than a dozen cars are the only vehicles are on the road is a significant danger...I'd say, sorry bud, I simply disagree with you. I think the guy who's stubborn and holding up the left lane to "maintain the speed limit," thinking he's a citizen's officer, and failing to yield to faster moving traffic is MUCH more dangerous than I am. That's what leads to cars swerving and switching lanes, which leads to accidents, and also leads to road rage. It's also illegal in many states, which require you to yield to faster traffic.
That's my $0.02, and I'm sticking to it.
"The National Maximum Speed Law (NMSL) was a provision of the federal government of the United States 1974 Emergency Highway Energy Conservation Act that prohibited speed limits higher than 55 miles per hour (90 km/h). It was drafted in response to oil price spikes and supply disruptions during the 1973 oil crisis."
This had NOTHING to do with safety. Whatsoever. It's also why emissions testing was done at 55mph. Manufacturers were instructed to maximize fuel economy at the new national speed limit.
Then there's the issue of the technology. Cars and their safety equipment as well as abilities (handling, braking, etc) have come a LONG way since the 1970s. Yet speed limits still remain at 55mph at many places (like Northern VA, which we referenced earlier) due to one and only one factor: local revenue generation. Which is why many states (like PA, for example) don't allow local law enforcement to utilize radar at all. Only State Police, to prevent local police from abusing speed limit laws for local revenue generation.
In addition to this, time and time again, studies have found that the safest thing isn't a certain magical number; it's maintaining the speed of the flow of traffic. So if you're doing 55mph when everyone else around you is doing an average of 83mph, you're essentially a non-moving object creating a significant safety hazard for all who are around you.
The Autobahn point is also well received. They statistically have much lower death rates yet average much higher travel speeds. Spearheading this is the amount of training required to obtain a driver's license in Germany, and the frequency of locations of EMS services throughout the Autobahn.
Lastly, again sticking with science, statistically speaking, the likelihood of significant bodily injury markedly increases once you past 35mph. Past that, the increase in injury and possible death levels off in comparison to the increase in speed. Ie, it's not a linear increase. Your chances of a significant injury between 55mph and 85mph don't change THAT much.
Having said that, is it smart or generally safe to be doing 100mph on a highway with poorly trained and unsuspecting drivers? Of course not. But if you tell me that I'm putting "everyone" at danger by literally cruising at 100mph on an open highway at 5AM, where me and less than a dozen cars are the only vehicles are on the road is a significant danger...I'd say, sorry bud, I simply disagree with you. I think the guy who's stubborn and holding up the left lane to "maintain the speed limit," thinking he's a citizen's officer, and failing to yield to faster moving traffic is MUCH more dangerous than I am. That's what leads to cars swerving and switching lanes, which leads to accidents, and also leads to road rage. It's also illegal in many states, which require you to yield to faster traffic.
That's my $0.02, and I'm sticking to it.
My quote was about people going at speeds significantly greater than the flow of traffic directly around them and also those that assume the road ahead is clear with no way for them to verify that (blind intersections, road debris, etc). Seems to all fit with exactly what you're saying. I don't see a difference.
02-07-2019, 02:06 PM
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I think the guy who's stubborn and holding up the left lane to "maintain the speed limit," thinking he's a citizen's officer, and failing to yield to faster moving traffic is MUCH more dangerous than I am. That's what leads to cars swerving and switching lanes, which leads to accidents, and also leads to road rage. It's also illegal in many states, which require you to yield to faster traffic.
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02-07-2019, 02:10 PM
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As others have said, this statement is more founded in opinion than fact. To quote:
"The National Maximum Speed Law (NMSL) was a provision of the federal government of the United States 1974 Emergency Highway Energy Conservation Act that prohibited speed limits higher than 55 miles per hour (90 km/h). It was drafted in response to oil price spikes and supply disruptions during the 1973 oil crisis."
This had NOTHING to do with safety. Whatsoever. It's also why emissions testing was done at 55mph. Manufacturers were instructed to maximize fuel economy at the new national speed limit.
Then there's the issue of the technology. Cars and their safety equipment as well as abilities (handling, braking, etc) have come a LONG way since the 1970s. Yet speed limits still remain at 55mph at many places (like Northern VA, which we referenced earlier) due to one and only one factor: local revenue generation. Which is why many states (like PA, for example) don't allow local law enforcement to utilize radar at all. Only State Police, to prevent local police from abusing speed limit laws for local revenue generation.
In addition to this, time and time again, studies have found that the safest thing isn't a certain magical number; it's maintaining the speed of the flow of traffic. So if you're doing 55mph when everyone else around you is doing an average of 83mph, you're essentially a non-moving object creating a significant safety hazard for all who are around you.
The Autobahn point is also well received. They statistically have much lower death rates yet average much higher travel speeds. Spearheading this is the amount of training required to obtain a driver's license in Germany, and the frequency of locations of EMS services throughout the Autobahn.
Lastly, again sticking with science, statistically speaking, the likelihood of significant bodily injury markedly increases once you past 35mph. Past that, the increase in injury and possible death levels off in comparison to the increase in speed. Ie, it's not a linear increase. Your chances of a significant injury between 55mph and 85mph don't change THAT much.
Having said that, is it smart or generally safe to be doing 100mph on a highway with poorly trained and unsuspecting drivers? Of course not. But if you tell me that I'm putting "everyone" at danger by literally cruising at 100mph on an open highway at 5AM, where me and less than a dozen cars are the only vehicles are on the road is a significant danger...I'd say, sorry bud, I simply disagree with you. I think the guy who's stubborn and holding up the left lane to "maintain the speed limit," thinking he's a citizen's officer, and failing to yield to faster moving traffic is MUCH more dangerous than I am. That's what leads to cars swerving and switching lanes, which leads to accidents, and also leads to road rage. It's also illegal in many states, which require you to yield to faster traffic.
That's my $0.02, and I'm sticking to it.
"The National Maximum Speed Law (NMSL) was a provision of the federal government of the United States 1974 Emergency Highway Energy Conservation Act that prohibited speed limits higher than 55 miles per hour (90 km/h). It was drafted in response to oil price spikes and supply disruptions during the 1973 oil crisis."
This had NOTHING to do with safety. Whatsoever. It's also why emissions testing was done at 55mph. Manufacturers were instructed to maximize fuel economy at the new national speed limit.
Then there's the issue of the technology. Cars and their safety equipment as well as abilities (handling, braking, etc) have come a LONG way since the 1970s. Yet speed limits still remain at 55mph at many places (like Northern VA, which we referenced earlier) due to one and only one factor: local revenue generation. Which is why many states (like PA, for example) don't allow local law enforcement to utilize radar at all. Only State Police, to prevent local police from abusing speed limit laws for local revenue generation.
In addition to this, time and time again, studies have found that the safest thing isn't a certain magical number; it's maintaining the speed of the flow of traffic. So if you're doing 55mph when everyone else around you is doing an average of 83mph, you're essentially a non-moving object creating a significant safety hazard for all who are around you.
The Autobahn point is also well received. They statistically have much lower death rates yet average much higher travel speeds. Spearheading this is the amount of training required to obtain a driver's license in Germany, and the frequency of locations of EMS services throughout the Autobahn.
Lastly, again sticking with science, statistically speaking, the likelihood of significant bodily injury markedly increases once you past 35mph. Past that, the increase in injury and possible death levels off in comparison to the increase in speed. Ie, it's not a linear increase. Your chances of a significant injury between 55mph and 85mph don't change THAT much.
Having said that, is it smart or generally safe to be doing 100mph on a highway with poorly trained and unsuspecting drivers? Of course not. But if you tell me that I'm putting "everyone" at danger by literally cruising at 100mph on an open highway at 5AM, where me and less than a dozen cars are the only vehicles are on the road is a significant danger...I'd say, sorry bud, I simply disagree with you. I think the guy who's stubborn and holding up the left lane to "maintain the speed limit," thinking he's a citizen's officer, and failing to yield to faster moving traffic is MUCH more dangerous than I am. That's what leads to cars swerving and switching lanes, which leads to accidents, and also leads to road rage. It's also illegal in many states, which require you to yield to faster traffic.
That's my $0.02, and I'm sticking to it.
