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Hey all,

Prepping to trade my '16 C450 in a few months for a C63S. Based on pricing, I'm looking to go with a '16-17' that has between 20K-30K miles on it.
As such, I've spent way more time than my wife finds appropriate researching these cars.

The one thing that has surprised me as lacking (I'm sure once I get one I won't care as I'll be a helpless romantic to the V8) are the seats. Maybe it's just personal opinion?

Regardless - as such, I'd like to get the opinions of some of you guys who have owned your car for some time now.

What did you choose, standard vs. performance seats? Why?

Another question I'd like to dovetail with, the performance exhaust is going to be a requirement for me.. anything other options/accessories that I should ensure are spec'ed into the car or should be avoided?

Thanks fellas!

 

What do you mean by the seat options look much nicer? They can all largely be optioned the same. I believe the C63S actually has some unique combos not available on the other models. I know a lot of folks shy away from the performance seats as they are unfairly perceived as being uncomfortable. Likely the C63S is predominately bought by older wealthier customers, that are more likely to have an issue with the performance seats or have a wife that objects, so there might be fewer S with performance seats if that's what you are getting at.

As far as what I chose, the performance seats were a must-have for me. They are one of the best option on this car. The standard seats just don't provide the necessary lateral support for me, and I personally find snug seats that hold me in place more comfortable than a cushy seat with lack of lateral support. I've done 12 hour road trips in them and they are very comfortable even on long trips. In terms of color combo, I went for the new black w/ yellow stitching/accents. Looks awesome in person and I constantly get compliments. The yellow just pops against the black. My exterior is also black, so the yellow stands out even more. Below is a render. This interior combo was new for 2019, so you won't find this on a '16 or '17.

 

Yup, sport seat must have option for me too. The standard seat look like belong in a 4 dr

 

Just one additional comment on the performance seats. Prior to 2019 they weren't available with seat ventilation. The seat ventilation definitely makes a difference. It's not active cooling, but it draws away the moist and warm air from one's back and butt. I swore never to get full leather seats again after having Alcantara seats in my last car (MB calls it Dynamica), but the C63S only comes with full nappa leather seats (at least for 2019), so the seat ventilation was a must for me. I use it regularly when it gets warm outside.

 

I went performance seat as well. They were firm when I picked up the car, but have softened with use. The ventilation works well, and I used it all summer here in DC where it's quick humid. My longest drives have been just under 4 hours and I have no complaints.

I still think Porcshe makes a better fitting seat for my body type, but these seats are great and look as good as any seat I've seen for the price.. Like Supreswiss, I get tons of compliments. I think the Black/Yellow is the best combo, but felt my choice fit my car the best.

 

i chose Standard Seats on my C63s sedan - i have heard that the Spot seats are more comfortable in the coupe - seems odd to me, but that is what i have heard. Prior to acquiring my car i did spend time at the dealership and sat in both and found that while i wanted the 500hp i still wanted a comfortable seat. At that time the dealer had a new '20 E63S on the floor (no dealer mark up) with sport seats and it sat for 4 months before selling and the AMG salesman told me it was sitting due to the seats - ie no one wanted them due to comfort factor.

i think it all comes down to personal preference

also love the sport exhaust with pops and crackles -

**in terms of other options that i am fan of - surround view camera system is great - heated/cooled seats - pano roof - night styling package

long time MB/AMG family -

 

Went with Performance Seats, looks amazing in Magma Grey on Yellow. As a summer weekend show car, aesthetics was the top priority. They're comfortable and great for track.

However I'm a 5'6 Asian and the side bolsters are too high. This pushes my shoulders forward and causes tightness and strain. Especially on long distance drives.

If you're short and use the car for daily driving and long trips, recommend Regular Seats. If you're 2-3 inches taller than me, Performance Seats are perfect.

 

Love my performance seats.. the ventilated option on the facelift is great.. definitely cooled me down this summer. A lot more lateral support than the standard seats. The seat hugs me in place provides great back support esp for my lower back without using the lumbar. I have a really bad back and I am in constant pain as a result. The performance seat is awesome!!!

 

Thanks for the great input, guys. Love the car & the dash facelift on the 2019's, sullicc. As the car will be my DD, I was worried about long-drive comfort. You guys have definitely aided in easing concern, I'll plan on opting for the performance seats. Any other hard and fast "must have" specs I should be looking for? Buying new is not in my budget ($$$$!) so I'll have to search for one that is best suited.

 

Heads up display, Exterior lighting package, and Drivers assistance package for safety reasons. performance seats if you are of a normal size.

 

Doesn’t heads up display come standard on these?
Another question - will the performance seats be comfortable for my wife? She’s ~5’7” and slim.

 

Heads up display is not standard. You should get hold of an order guide for 2019 and you will get the list of all options and information on what is standard.

My wife is 5’ 4”, slim and loves the seats.

 

Got it. Since I'm looking at '16-'17 models, I've pulled up the order guide for those years. I just noticed that it reads, "Heated and Ventilated Front Seats – Delayed availability on C 63/63 S models Requires designo upholstery. Not available with AMG Performance seats (555)." My understanding is that the performance seats have a heated option, but not a cooling?

 

Correct, see my post above. As I stated there prior to 2019, cooling (ventilation) was not available with the performance seats.

 

Yeah, sorry for the confusion on my previous post. I was just making sure that the performance seats had a heating option prior to the '19+ models.

 

I went with the regular seats than the performance seats after trying both of them. For my build and height (Medium build, 6'), the Performance seats didn't fit well. The regular seats were better in terms of comfort. I even tried both the sedan and coupe performance seats with MY19 but they were similar from what I could tell.

I do miss the side bolsters at times while driving with the regular seats during canyon carvings, but otherwise I have no complaints with the regular seats and I like them a lot.

 

I recently purchased a 2018 C63S Coupe with the performance seats. I am 6'4 / 215lbs / Medium build and friggin love them. For my height they take a little bit to get into (nice high side bolster) but once in they are extremely comfortable and I daily drive my car. Now I have not done any long trips yet but don't see that being an issue.

This was one of my "Must Have" when I searched for a slightly used CPO car...passed on two others because they did not have the Performance Seats. I drove them and just did not feel as good in the seat...yes they were comfortable but did not provide the support I was looking for when driving aggressively. I have owned a couple of 911's (997.2 Turbo and 991 C4S) and these seats are as good if not better IMHO.

In reference to your search and other "Must Have's"...I also would add the Performance exhaust (think you did) but others for me were Night Package and HUD. Love the look of the night package so much more and the HUD is a very nice feature. Good luck on your search...it took me three attempts.

 

perf seats are the best... I have two E63 wagons with them.. I order C43's with them sometimes...

I actually have this LINK TO PICS C63S coupe 2020, just came in with black and red perf seats, white with night package and aero and carbon fiber.. black cross forged wheels... gorgeous

 

Thanks for the input, guys. Sounds to me like most have leaned towards the performance seats, but it's ultimately up to personal preference. Based on the conversation, I'll be leaning towards performance. The good news is that I already know what to expect from the regular seats as I have those in my car now.

- Performance Seats
- Performance Exhaust
- HUD
- Night Package

Check.

This could be a dumb question, but I'll shoot. I think I read somewhere that the performance exhaust comes as part of the night package?

 

*drool*.... why must you torture us!

 

no P60 night package is blacked out trim's/splitters,diffusers and black chrome exhaust pipes , not the exhaust.. which is standard on the new C63's...optional on 43's and used to be on some 63's also

 

Ha, just for pics on the red perf seats on a C63 coupe.. I love the new 20's (and 19's) ones with new steering wheels.. carbon and dinamica, AMG drive unit where you ca adjust the 9 stage traction control

 

Just to further clarify. Up till MY2018 the performance exhaust was a standalone option (U78). Starting with MY2019 it was made standard on the C63/C63S. And as stated above, the night package regardless of which exhaust is on the car changes the exhaust tips from chrome to black.

 

Update for all you guys:



Test drove my first C63S today. I've been hawking the internet for the past few months, waiting on the right deal. A local Nissan dealership listed one up on a trade-in they received, so I figured why not go check it out.
I wanted to share some pictures, thoughts on the experience, and get opinions on this specific vehicle / some things I noticed.


I arrived, small talk, scanned ID, etc. etc. I smiled as they pulled the car up to the front. The sales lady who had been assisting thus-far seemed new. At this point, she made a remark about having someone who "had a knowledge of sports cars" ride with me for the test drive as she was used to showing altimas ().

Car makes its way out front, it's a white 2016 C63s. Black wheels - carbon fiber interior trim, mirror covers, and deck lid spoiler - nappa leather performance seats, performance exhaust, HUD, etc. The car is loaded with options.
I've read many people talk about the grin that overcomes them with the sounds of the V8 on start-up.. and boy, they're right. The new salesman was very nice, and allowed me to pull into a gas station where he proceeded to fill the tank up. I got a good 30+ minute drive out of the car.

Initial thoughts:

The sound, even in comfort with the performance exhaust off, is truly intoxicating. Absolutely validated everything I hoped the car would be. I currently have a 2016 C450 equipped with a racechip GTS black. It's quick, feels very lightweight, and is easy to throw around (if that makes sense). I felt like the 63s was much beefier & screamed muscle car. Totally different feel between the two. I noticed it had Michelin PS4's while filling the tank. I dropped into sport+ at one point and played around with some acceleration from 3k-3.5k rpms. Again, nothing but smiles. I thought my c450 felt fast after the racechip, but learned today that there is a sizeable difference between "quick" and "fast."
I did notice that the C63s had a lot of throaty roar to it, but not many (if any) burbles or pops. My c450 certainly has more based on my drive, but again, it was just a test drive so can't be completely sure.

The nappa leather seats are a dream. They were absolutely gorgeous. I posted a week or two ago inquiring about the performance seats. I must say, after experiencing those, I can agree that they're worth having.

Anyways,
Overall, it was in good shape (30K miles). I noticed some slight red flags (whether small or large) and wanted to get your opinions.

• The car is a 2016, meaning warranty has expired/is expiring. Would it be possible for me to get an extended warranty thru MB on this car if I purchased?
• A "radar sensory dirty" service message popped up on the dash mid-drive. Is that a concern? Research indicates it's something regarding distronic.
• Noticed three tires were inflated to 29-30 PSI, with the 4th bein at 40 PSI. Maybe one has a cracked rim / leaking air and they're filling? Is it normal for people to only run 30 PSI in tires on these? I keep my C450 close to 40PSI.
• Car was pulling to the right seeming to have alignment issues. Should I expect any costly repairs at 30K miles for something like this?
• Carbon Fiber Rear Spoiler clear coat has about a quarter sized area of which the clear coat is peeling back. Is this easily repairable?
• One of the rear wheel hubs is rusted.. I'm not sure I've seen that on a car like this. Rust on the rotor can be expected.. but is it normal on the hub? I live in Atlanta.. don't get much rust based on weather or ocean.
• Look in the pics - the "AMG" badge on the wheels are faded to their point they aren't black anymore. What's up with that??
• Do these cars have the same trans that the C43s/C450s have? I noticed the trans felt different.. something kind of seemed off, couldn't pinpoint what. Could be completely expected, just want to get thoughts. I haven't seen anyone on here with trans issues, have you?

I've attached pictures - most are eye candy, but there's one or two that relate to some of the concerns above.

Ultimately, if I were to swing for this car, I just want to do my best to be prepared. I'd like to get something that wasn't ragged out. I notice things like one wheel missing the MB centercap, hub rust, spoiler peeling, and it makes me wonder if the car was cared for properly. Just want to get your thoughts.

Thank you in advance!

 

The pictures are kinda small to really see anything, but here are a few thoughts. First off, I always wonder how these kinds of cars end up at Nissan etc. dealerships. Maybe in this case the owner bought a GT-R.

• Yes, I think you can get an extended warranty through MB. I would try to get the service history of the car. Not being sold by an MB dealership means the car won't be certified, so I would want to have a PDI from somebody who knows these cars.
• "Radar sensory dirty" can happen. The DISTRONIC radar sensor is behind the MB star in the front. If there's dirt on it you can get this alert. I got it at least once after the front got caked with dead insects all over.
• I would drive the car again with the tires properly inflated. I don't know what the recommended tire pressure is on the sedan, but yes the low 30s is about right. I run my coupe with 33 psi in the front and 32 psi in the rear, which is the recommended normal load tire pressure.
• Pulling to the right could be because of the tire pressure. Where was the one with 40 psi? If it still pulls to the right with correct tire pressures then yes it will need an alignment. Something could be bent in the suspension, so that's where the proper inspection comes in
• Pealing carbon fiber rear spoiler will need to be replaced. They can't be fixed, really and they are not cheap.
• Rust on the hubs can happen. It's exposed metal. It can be cleaned.
• With the AMG badges I'm guessing the paint wore off
• No, these cars do not have the same transmission. They are the same at the core, but the big difference is that the 63 series has a wet start up clutch instead of a torque converter. That gives them a more responsive drivetrain and a more solid connection, but that also means it can be more jerky because there is no fluid coupling. The clutch is similar to a clutch in a manual transmission, but it's operated by the computer.

In all honesty, this wouldn't be my first choice, but it comes down to what an inspection would reveal. Clearly the dealership doesn't really know what to do with this thing and how to prepare it. Tire pressure all over the place is a red flag.