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Old May 14, 2020 | 09:41 AM
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I am in the process of buying a new daily driver and I have owned over 60 cars and none of them a Mercedes Benz. I am a longtime BMW/Audi guy that is debating going over to the dark side but have no experience with MB.

I am shopping 15+ c63 vs c63s sedans. Are there any major issues I should look for on a used example? Any major services? Realiability? I do drive 15,000 miles a year so I need something that is going to be reliable. My sister in law has a new c class thats ALWAYS at the dealer. I also will get snow tires for it as I drive in the northeast.

It seems I can get a nice c63 amg for around 37k, c63s cars are 40k+. Cross shopping with M3/M4 as well but getting bored of BMW.

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Old May 14, 2020 | 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by 1flossedm3
I am in the process of buying a new daily driver and I have owned over 60 cars and none of them a Mercedes Benz. I am a longtime BMW/Audi guy that is debating going over to the dark side but have no experience with MB.

I am shopping 15+ c63 vs c63s sedans. Are there any major issues I should look for on a used example? Any major services? Realiability? I do drive 15,000 miles a year so I need something that is going to be reliable. My sister in law has a new c class thats ALWAYS at the dealer. I also will get snow tires for it as I drive in the northeast.

It seems I can get a nice c63 amg for around 37k, c63s cars are 40k+. Cross shopping with M3/M4 as well but getting bored of BMW.

Thanks everyone!
I drive mine daily for 12k miles a year. So far so good. A few minor annoying issues (like my radio presets disappear once a month and some crackles interior here and there), New tires evvery 10k about and I change oil every 5k, I think it's a very good daily driver to me...comfy and when I need it or feel like I can push it. I picked the sedan as I want to be able to drive for dinner with my family of 4....and such.
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Old May 14, 2020 | 10:47 AM
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Old May 14, 2020 | 10:47 AM
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I drive mine daily for 12k miles a year. So far so good. A few minor annoying issues (like my radio presets disappear once a month and some crackles interior here and there), New tires evvery 10k about and I change oil every 5k, I think it's a very good daily driver to me...comfy and when I need it or feel like I can push it. I picked the sedan as I want to be able to drive for dinner with my family of 4....and such.
Thanks for the reply. You mean the interior rattles? That might drive me nuts. Going through tires every 10,000 is insane! Are you driving aggresive?
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Old May 14, 2020 | 11:18 AM
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For what it's worth, I got over 25k out of my original tires. The dealers are pretty familiar with the few niggling interior rattles; if it's still under warranty they can fix them all in a day at no charge. I don't daily mine any longer, but only because I got a new truck and need to haul stuff sometimes. But when I did, it was great. Don't know your location, but if you're north of the Mason-Dixon line or so snow tires are a must.
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Old May 14, 2020 | 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by tobeit
I drive mine daily for 12k miles a year. So far so good. A few minor annoying issues (like my radio presets disappear once a month and some crackles interior here and there), New tires evvery 10k about and I change oil every 5k, I think it's a very good daily driver to me...comfy and when I need it or feel like I can push it. I picked the sedan as I want to be able to drive for dinner with my family of 4....and such.
If you are still under warranty you may need a new Comand unit. Mine was doing some similarly funky stuff. Replaced it and all is well again.

As to the original question, my car is my daily and has been pretty much bulletproof. It likes tires and brake pads, especially rear pads, but otherwise it fires up and drives great no matter what. I’m a bit OCD about rattles and even with the convertible it’s quite pleasant.
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Old May 14, 2020 | 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by 1flossedm3
Thanks for the reply. You mean the interior rattles? That might drive me nuts. Going through tires every 10,000 is insane! Are you driving aggresive?
I have 2019 C63s coupe with about 8,300 miles and for about last 2 months have a rattle come from area of front dashboard passenger side. Occurs driving over rough roads.
I discovered when I open the sunroof to tilt position the rattling stops.
Last week had at MB dealership and lube sunroof tract. If it did not correct rattle I would need to leave car longer.
It stopped rattle for just a short time but it's back. It does not bother me too much but like to get it fixed.
. Does any else here had this issue? And please advise what you did to correct.
. Otherwise I love the car.
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Old May 14, 2020 | 02:25 PM
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You said you owned around 60 cars, but what kind of cars were those and what kind of cars have you been daily driving so far? A high performance car as a daily driver will come with compromises. They are sprung stiffer and the chassis is stiffer in general, so that impacts comfort and sooner or later the increased vibration from all that stiffness will knock something loose and rattles/creaks will result from it. That's just part of the course frankly. If you subject a car to enough vibration over time, it will eventually creak. We all probably have some creaks here an there driving on uneven roads, going over bumps and curbs etc. that subject the car to torsional forces. I've had some creaks addressed by the dealer during the first service of my 2019 C63S Coupe and I have at least one more that I'll probably have them look at during the next service. It really doesn't bother me much. Comes with the turf. There are more expensive performance cars with these issues. Just drive a carbon fiber tub supercar once and hear every rock that gets thrown up by the tires. This is ultimately part of the experience. If you want a quiet, comfy daily driver, this is not it. Just step on the throttle and the engine/exhaust noise will drown it all out .

But as far as a daily performance car goes, the C63 is one of the best. I'm a year and 12k miles into mine. However, the FL (2019+) has several improvements over the pre-FL, that make it a better daily. Specifically the revised suspension that makes it more comfortable and more compliant, while not losing any of the driving dynamics in Sport+/Race. But this ain't your average Toyota Corolla commuter car where you can rack up 10s of thousands of miles before you even need to think about tires and brakes. This is a 4000lbs GT/Sports Car delivering 450+ HP and torque to the rear wheels, so you don't have to be a rocket scientist to understand that this puts a lot of stress on the brakes and tires, and you'll have to change them frequently. So far my 2019 has been largely problem free. I had more issues with my previous car, a 2013 Audi RS5, during the first 10k miles. I mostly just did the first 10k service so far, plus a few things that weren't quite right from the factory. The car needed some software updates, had a faulty oil sensor from day one, and the biggest issue was that the aero package side sills started to fall off due to inferior adhesive used at the factory. While it was somewhat of a headache to get it resolved, it was nothing mechanical that I would deem as unreliable.

With my RS5 I needed new tires every 10k-12k miles, so increased wear isn't something unique to the C63, but I'm actually surprised about the tire life on this one. I think it's largely due to the all-new traction control of the 2019+ C63S, which primarily uses the engine management to control traction by regulating the engine torque, so the rear brakes and rear tires don't experience as much wear. I did change my stock PSS tires out for a set of PS4S at 10k miles, because my front alignment was off and it chewed up the inner edge of both front tires, but my rear tires still had more than half of the tread left. My rear brakes are also barely worn and I do drive the car hard whenever I get a chance. Everybody's mileage will vary, though, as wear has a lot to do with how you drive the car. The more traction control has to step in at least on the pre-FL, the faster you'll go through the rear brakes and the more you are hooning around, the faster you wear your rear tires.

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Old May 14, 2020 | 02:45 PM
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Old May 14, 2020 | 02:59 PM
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I have a 2019 C63s and I test drove a Volvo XC60 and found the Merc to be much more compliant and comfortable. I wouldn't consider the C63 to be a sports car, it's a comfortable daily with a big engine, I don't find it compromising at all, it's very practical and I bought it as a family car, which it does very well.

I came from a GTR and that was just too compromising, though it did have a boot big enough for the pushchair. Since number 3 came along, I can get everyone in, including the 3 seater pushchair! (Mines an estate).

Considering an upgrade to an E63s, my only constraint was the wife having just passed her test, but I think she could handle a bigger car now. To be honest though, it gets us all in ok and I do like the C dimensions for our UK car parks, villages and B roads.
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Old May 15, 2020 | 04:49 AM
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I use my Coupe as my my daily driver too. I can't help but want to drive it every single day, even if it drinks a bit of petrol when you hammer it.

It's the best daily driver car i've ever had. It even clears speed bumps and driveways without scraping the chin and this really surprises me.

Just make sure your tires are inflated properly. Our forged AMG wheels are prone to bends and cracks (bent and cracked my two front 19/20 inch RXC wheels already whilst running 33psi and 32psi pressures)
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Old May 15, 2020 | 05:35 AM
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I'd just like to add, I don't have any squeaks or rattles in my interior, not sure if that makes me lucky. It's also a very nice place to be, personally I think Audi interiors date quickly and after having an M135i, everything else BMW is the same but bigger, it's hard to go back to something once you've done it, as such an M3 never felt like an upgrade. They also have very small back seats.
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Old May 15, 2020 | 09:03 AM
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Thanks for the reply. You mean the interior rattles? That might drive me nuts. Going through tires every 10,000 is insane! Are you driving aggresive?
I've never owned a car that rattled more than my 2017 C63s... I loved everything else about the car but it drove me nuts
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Old May 15, 2020 | 09:19 AM
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It seems rattles and the ride quality is harsh on these cars after doing a lot of research. I'm starting to think a prestige A6 3.0t may be a better DD for me albeit a lot slower even with a tune.
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Old May 15, 2020 | 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by 1flossedm3
It seems rattles and the ride quality is harsh on these cars after doing a lot of research. I'm starting to think a prestige A6 3.0t may be a better DD for me albeit a lot slower even with a tune.
I run my 2016 C63s hard daily, and only noises I hear, are the ones I want too....

With the AMG line (c63 and c63s) you will get a bit more road feel, which will translate to things in the car making more noise then in a super cruiser... but that is expected. Although by NO MEANS is it out of control.
Driving a ferrari around has noises too.. the stiffer you pin down the suspension , the more you will feel and then hear.

I noticed when I tires got worn down, I was hearing a bit more then normal, put new skins on, and all nice again.

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Old May 15, 2020 | 09:59 AM
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It seems rattles and the ride quality is harsh on these cars after doing a lot of research. I'm starting to think a prestige A6 3.0t may be a better DD for me albeit a lot slower even with a tune.
To be fair, I think most people but the C63 for that stonking V8. A prestige A6 isn't really a comparison. If it's comfort /ride you want, an E300 will probably do it better. Look for one with airmatic.
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Old May 15, 2020 | 10:18 AM
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If you are still under warranty you may need a new Comand unit. Mine was doing some similarly funky stuff. Replaced it and all is well again.

As to the original question, my car is my daily and has been pretty much bulletproof. It likes tires and brake pads, especially rear pads, but otherwise it fires up and drives great no matter what. I’m a bit OCD about rattles and even with the convertible it’s quite pleasant.
Yeah, had it at the dealer but they want it demonstrated, which is hard to do on something happening every months once. I also had my A/C stop blowing air...after driving it for an hour or so...MB tested and tested, upgraded control box and FW and who knows if it comes back. But those are things happening on all cars. no complaints here.

Originally Posted by 1flossedm3
Thanks for the reply. You mean the interior rattles? That might drive me nuts. Going through tires every 10,000 is insane! Are you driving aggresive?
I guess I started something here saying it rattles ...as many say, most if not all cars do and in particular cars with tight suspension. Its not too much in mine and only when on bad roads (not too many here where I live). I don't drive aggressive but I do drive it as its supposed to be a little bit, so brakes and tires dont last as long as on a cruiser. My brakes were gone around 18k, easy replacement with Porterfields.

I love my car...I considered to have another daily but that takes the fun out of it, I dont want to look at the car and drive it on Sunday's.... I want to drive it because its what I like, so its my daily.
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Old May 15, 2020 | 10:26 AM
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I've had no build quality or issues with mine. 23K miles now over 2+ years, no issues with rattling or creaks. The one rattle I had was from my sunglasses in the holder lol, I'm also lowered on KWs so the ride is a bit harsher than stock. I have a B8.5 S4 as a daily driver, and it's a much better daily driving duty car over the AMG, it's not special and blends in with traffic. It's tiring having every boy racer try to race you all the time, just let me mind my own business smh.
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Old May 15, 2020 | 10:40 AM
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I guess I started something here saying it rattles ...as many say, most if not all cars do and in particular cars with tight suspension. Its not too much in mine and only when on bad roads (not too many here where I live). I don't drive aggressive but I do drive it as its supposed to be a little bit, so brakes and tires dont last as long as on a cruiser. My brakes were gone around 18k, easy replacement with Porterfields.
Are you replacing just the pads or rotors and pads ?
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Old May 15, 2020 | 10:41 AM
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I split time between my 2019 C63S and my 911 and I've had no issue at all. That car is great. I'll end up with about 10K miles for the year in June. My wife has a bit more miles on her 2019 C43 and no issues with it either. Both make better sounds than the other cars in their segment which was very important to us. I do have snow tires that I put on (19" MB rims similar to my summer 19/20". I bought them used and had them shipped from Germany). We didn't have any snow this year, but performance tires are crap in the cold weather and can put you at risk, so please get some snows in you live in a colder climate.
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Are you replacing just the pads or rotors and pads ?
just pads, rotors are good. Just need to replace before the worn down pads wear down the rotors too.
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Are you replacing just the pads or rotors and pads ?
...oops my browser posted the same post twice.
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Old May 15, 2020 | 11:47 AM
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just pads, rotors are good. Just need to replace before the worn down pads wear down the rotors too.
and you have a c63s ?? I always replace both, as they are seated .. but I guess its different for everyone.
I just had a service done on mine, and they replaced all.. also they warrantied NEW calipers because the lamination had gotten clouding on them due to the heat from the engine.
(I think they are doing more warranty work, since they need the labor and work)

But on my C63s and C43 , we replace rotors and pads at the same time.. have been advised this by multiple people, but am sure its not 100% necessary..
We run the smack out of our cars as well.. I bought a performance car to do just that..
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and you have a c63s ?? I always replace both, as they are seated .. but I guess its different for everyone.
I just had a service done on mine, and they replaced all.. also they warrantied NEW calipers because the lamination had gotten clouding on them due to the heat from the engine.
(I think they are doing more warranty work, since they need the labor and work)

But on my C63s and C43 , we replace rotors and pads at the same time.. have been advised this by multiple people, but am sure its not 100% necessary..
We run the smack out of our cars as well.. I bought a performance car to do just that..
I am no expert but never heard to always have to replace both (maybe if used exlusively for racing...) ...replacing rotors and pads every 18k is insane. My calipers look fine - like new.
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Originally Posted by tobeit
I am no expert but never heard to always have to replace both (maybe if used exlusively for racing...) ...replacing rotors and pads every 18k is insane. My calipers look fine - like new.
My tech and also dealer said no more then every other one... because the rotors wear with the pads, other wise you will get wierd ware on the pads etc..
Its an AMG, its expected.. not a c300 ...

Your in South FL as well ?? I am in Boca..
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