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Old Mar 4, 2021 | 12:19 PM
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How much value would you add to a C63 S being a CPO vs a non Mercedes dealer. Along with the extra year of warranty coverage, you are getting a thorough inspection by Mercedes. And most likely a better service record. In my opinion to buy a non CPO it would have to be roughly 10% cheaper with equal options.
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Old Mar 4, 2021 | 01:12 PM
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In general, buying a CPO from a Mercedes dealership buys some peace of mind knowing Mercedes will only CPO cars that are in very good condition without any "history stories". I say in general because there are always exceptions. Yes, a CPO would have a better history. As far as the thorough inspection, that part might be overrated. I know with Porsche, when you get your car certified, they replace wear items such as brakes, rotors, tires, etc. to meet their certification requirements. I would assume MB would require the same.
I would definitely buy a CPO car if the premium they are charging isn't crazy. IMO I don't think a CPO should be 10% more. It doesn't cost the dealership that much.
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Old Mar 4, 2021 | 01:34 PM
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In general, buying a CPO from a Mercedes dealership buys some peace of mind knowing Mercedes will only CPO cars that are in very good condition without any "history stories". I say in general because there are always exceptions. Yes, a CPO would have a better history. As far as the thorough inspection, that part might be overrated. I know with Porsche, when you get your car certified, they replace wear items such as brakes, rotors, tires, etc. to meet their certification requirements. I would assume MB would require the same.
I would definitely buy a CPO car if the premium they are charging isn't crazy. IMO I don't think a CPO should be 10% more. It doesn't cost the dealership that much.
second that - think of it as an extended, used car warranty you can buy. The inspection is hit and miss - I have seen CPO's cars with major, hidden issues....but the CPO warranty gives you piece of mind. 10% is way too much.
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Old Mar 4, 2021 | 04:51 PM
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I know with Porsche, when you get your car certified, they replace wear items such as brakes, rotors, tires, etc. to meet their certification requirements. I would assume MB would require the same.
They do, my car had new tires and brakes all around. Hell they even replaced a wheel. At the end of they day they didn't make much money off my deal.
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Old Mar 6, 2021 | 08:12 AM
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I think the biggest pro of the CPO is the warranty. A MB dealership (which has a lot to lose with MB Corporate) is putting its name/reputation on the line when they sell you a CPO. As a result, if there are undisclosed issues in the car, they're going to be under pressure to resolve them. For example: https://mbworld.org/forums/c63-c63s-...aking-cpo.html

Also, it depends on how much you drive. For me, I drive at least 2K miles/month just for work. So I'd eat up my factory warranty pretty fast. Buying a low mileage CPO let me buy a practically new car at a steal of a price (original owner took the bulk of the depreciation by buying it new), and I have the remainder of the factory warranty + 1 year CPO warranty, which is unlimited mileage, and the option to extend the CPO warranty (also unlimited mileage) for an additional 2 years (costs about $3500, IIRC). So that's a steal IMO, given my circumstances.
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Old Mar 6, 2021 | 08:44 AM
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Only CPO. One major repair can wipe you out. Also, if buying pre-owned AMG ANYTHING always CPO and one owner.
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Old Mar 6, 2021 | 01:13 PM
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Only CPO. One major repair can wipe you out. Also, if buying pre-owned AMG ANYTHING always CPO and one owner.
I would venture that if you are afraid something breaks and its not covered under warranty and you need to foot the bill - you may want to look at a different car than. Don't get me wrong, I would hate to have to pay for major repair on my car...but you need to be able to live with that. CPO only adds a year..what then, sell the car and get another one? That would mean you are flipping cars often and that flipping alone cost you more than the average repair over the lifespan of the car. JMO. Now, if you modify (tune etc) you car that equation gets much worse as even CPO does not help you here. Can't live in fear.
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Originally Posted by tobeit
I would venture that if you are afraid something breaks and its not covered under warranty and you need to foot the bill - you may want to look at a different car than. Don't get me wrong, I would hate to have to pay for major repair on my car...but you need to be able to live with that. CPO only adds a year..what then, sell the car and get another one? That would mean you are flipping cars often and that flipping alone cost you more than the average repair over the lifespan of the car. JMO. Now, if you modify (tune etc) you car that equation gets much worse as even CPO does not help you here. Can't live in fear.
One good thing with a CPO is that a standard has been met. The buyer knows that it meets certain criteria so the chances of something going wrong are minimized. MB will stand by their certified process. However if you go non-CPO, risk is increased. Period.

I've never purchased a pre owned car in my life but if I did it would need to be CPO. Not because I would "live in fear", but because it simply meets a quantifiable standard. If one can't afford the price of a CPO then maybe the car isn't the right one for them.
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I'm not sure if I am giving accurate information but if you are looking at a C63 that is not a CPO, could you take it to a MB dealership to see if it qualifies for MB to certify it? If so, that might be a good option. That way, you are just paying for the cost of having the car CPO'ed, not the premium some dealers charge when selling a CPO. Also, because wear items must be replaced if they don't meet CPO requirements, you can be sure that you will have critical wear items replaced. If these items pass inspection and don't have to be replaced, you have some assurance that there is ample amount of wearability left on them.
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Old Mar 7, 2021 | 11:45 AM
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One good thing with a CPO is that a standard has been met. The buyer knows that it meets certain criteria so the chances of something going wrong are minimized. MB will stand by their certified process. However if you go non-CPO, risk is increased. Period.

I've never purchased a pre owned car in my life but if I did it would need to be CPO. Not because I would "live in fear", but because it simply meets a quantifiable standard. If one can't afford the price of a CPO then maybe the car isn't the right one for them.
If I buy used I may also opt for CPO just for warranty reason but the notion the car meets certain standards is a hit and miss. I have seen CPO with obvious major issues the dealer either did not bother to find or did not even attempt. I just test drive one of them. Also, to my knowledge wear and tear only gets changed when due not anyway.
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Old Mar 7, 2021 | 11:52 AM
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Yes, wear and tear items are only replaced if they do not meet the minimum remaining wear to them. Things do get missed on CPO cars but they will fix that. Obviously a careful test drive is needed to identify some of the more obvious problems.
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Originally Posted by tobeit
If I buy used I may also opt for CPO just for warranty reason but the notion the car meets certain standards is a hit and miss. I have seen CPO with obvious major issues the dealer either did not bother to find or did not even attempt. I just test drive one of them. Also, to my knowledge wear and tear only gets changed when due not anyway.
Correct. Since it’s really up the dealer to certify, certain items can be deemed subjective or simply missed at the point of inspection. All CPO does for me is minimize the risk but doesn’t guarantee against it.
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Old Mar 8, 2021 | 02:09 PM
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I’m in the used market for around a 2019 and I see so many non CPO with their price pretty damn close to the CPOs. Idk maybe I value the CPO more than it’s worth but for me to buy a car that is not CPO it would have to be substantially cheaper. Not 2-3K on a $75,000 car
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Can anyone explain how a 1 year old car even makes it to a non Mercedes dealer? The car I’m looking at is a 2020. It was leased for 1 year....how does this car not end up back at Mercedes?? Just trying to understand the process

https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/d...3295/overview/
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Originally Posted by Finsupp23
Can anyone explain how a 1 year old car even makes it to a non Mercedes dealer? The car I’m looking at is a 2020. It was leased for 1 year....how does this car not end up back at Mercedes?? Just trying to understand the process

https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/d...3295/overview/
Unless the car is a buyback or a flood vehicle, usually it's a wholesaler that has dealer connections that will pick up a trade in or the car makes it to an auction.
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Unless the car is a buyback or a flood vehicle, usually it's a wholesaler that has dealer connections that will pick up a trade in or the car makes it to an auction.
Agreed, but that's Step #2.

If the vehicle was traded in to the dealer (or chain of dealers) that currently has it, that's a reasonable and safe reason.

If the vehicle was traded in/sold to a dealer of the same brand/marque, and it ends up at a non-same brand/marque, not always, but mostly, it's due to there being issues/damages in that vehicle that make it not financially advantageous for the dealer to hold onto the car, so they put it up for auction, and another dealer will acquire it. Could simply be something like mileage, or something bigger like accident history, cost to bring it up to dealer standard for resale, etc. If the vehicle is an easy well/adequate margin, they would obviously hold on to it otherwise.
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Originally Posted by FDNewbie
Agreed, but that's Step #2.

If the vehicle was traded in to the dealer (or chain of dealers) that currently has it, that's a reasonable and safe reason.

If the vehicle was traded in/sold to a dealer of the same brand/marque, and it ends up at a non-same brand/marque, not always, but mostly, it's due to there being issues/damages in that vehicle that make it not financially advantageous for the dealer to hold onto the car, so they put it up for auction, and another dealer will acquire it. Could simply be something like mileage, or something bigger like accident history, cost to bring it up to dealer standard for resale, etc. If the vehicle is an easy well/adequate margin, they would obviously hold on to it otherwise.
From the 30K view, it looks like its just a TRADE-IN, and the dealership kept it too try and maximize a resale... just IMO....
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Very possible. Not speaking specifically on this car (didn't look into it). Just generally that if the car has good margin for resale, the original dealer will keep it. Otherwise, wholesale/auction.
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Very possible. Not speaking specifically on this car (didn't look into it). Just generally that if the car has good margin for resale, the original dealer will keep it. Otherwise, wholesale/auction.
I agree
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Very possible. Not speaking specifically on this car (didn't look into it). Just generally that if the car has good margin for resale, the original dealer will keep it. Otherwise, wholesale/auction.
This is what I didn’t understand. It’s 1 year old. 11,000 miles. Why wouldnt Mercedes keep it. Seems very odd to me
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This is what I didn’t understand. It’s 1 year old. 11,000 miles. Why wouldnt Mercedes keep it. Seems very odd to me
What do you mean my Mercedes didnt keep it ?? it was traded in to a Porsche dealership.. the owner could have paid cash or paid it off, or what ever, and owned it clear title in hand, and used it to get into another car.. has nothing to do with MB...
(or am I completely missing something here ?)
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Can anyone explain how a 1 year old car even makes it to a non Mercedes dealer? The car I’m looking at is a 2020. It was leased for 1 year....how does this car not end up back at Mercedes?? Just trying to understand the process

https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/d...3295/overview/
I can explain it. For years and years I would lease cars, mod them and beat on the for 1-1.5 years and then sell them to a different manufacture dealership. Almost all brands have something I am interested in so it was fun and the other dealerships could care less what you did to the car.

That's another reason to only buy new or CPO....I love CPOs.
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What do you mean my Mercedes didnt keep it ?? it was traded in to a Porsche dealership.. the owner could have paid cash or paid it off, or what ever, and owned it clear title in hand, and used it to get into another car.. has nothing to do with MB...
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no I guess that makes sense. I just assumed you’d get the best deal trading it back to the dealership that leased it in the first place
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What do you mean my Mercedes didnt keep it ?? it was traded in to a Porsche dealership.. the owner could have paid cash or paid it off, or what ever, and owned it clear title in hand, and used it to get into another car.. has nothing to do with MB...
(or am I completely missing something here ?)
sorry I’ve never leased a car before so I guess I’m not so clear on how it works. I just thought a car that new ended up back to the original dealer
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