C63s 2021couoe - not getting it
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C63s 2021couoe - not getting it
Help - test drive. 21 plate C63s - lovely spec - low mileage coupe
found it heavy and clunky - compared to my pocket rocket A45s - not sure why it’s 30k more than my A45s - doesn’t feel it - especially the tech side
obviously love the noise - but an hour test drive in slow traffic and 40mph roads - brought 15mpg average - which was quite alarming
I am a massive petrol head and they do turn my head - however I was a little underwhelmed and feel the novelty of the noise may wear off or am I missing the point? Please enlighten me
found it heavy and clunky - compared to my pocket rocket A45s - not sure why it’s 30k more than my A45s - doesn’t feel it - especially the tech side
obviously love the noise - but an hour test drive in slow traffic and 40mph roads - brought 15mpg average - which was quite alarming
I am a massive petrol head and they do turn my head - however I was a little underwhelmed and feel the novelty of the noise may wear off or am I missing the point? Please enlighten me
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Help - test drive. 21 plate C63s - lovely spec - low mileage coupe
found it heavy and clunky - compared to my pocket rocket A45s - not sure why it’s 30k more than my A45s - doesn’t feel it - especially the tech side
obviously love the noise - but an hour test drive in slow traffic and 40mph roads - brought 15mpg average - which was quite alarming
I am a massive petrol head and they do turn my head - however I was a little underwhelmed and feel the novelty of the noise may wear off or am I missing the point? Please enlighten me
found it heavy and clunky - compared to my pocket rocket A45s - not sure why it’s 30k more than my A45s - doesn’t feel it - especially the tech side
obviously love the noise - but an hour test drive in slow traffic and 40mph roads - brought 15mpg average - which was quite alarming
I am a massive petrol head and they do turn my head - however I was a little underwhelmed and feel the novelty of the noise may wear off or am I missing the point? Please enlighten me
Are you able to test drive another C63S Coupe? Because I'm not sure what happened to that one you test drove but these cars don't feel heavy and clunky at all......... which is what surprised me. Obviously they're larger than the A45s but they are more masculine. A45s are for the hair dressers.
My (ex) sister inlaw has the A45s and driving it around for a few days it felt cheap to me. It gives you that feeling that it's the model you buy if you're on the broke side of life but needing to tell people you've got an AMG. Something try hard about it.......... but yeah test drive another C63S Coupe or buy an M3 CSL.
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I'm not sure why a carrera costs an arm and leg more than a cayman but it does...lol
If your worried about mileage in a twin turbo v8 then it ain't the car for you.
First "petrol head" I've heard that is worried about mileage.
If your worried about mileage in a twin turbo v8 then it ain't the car for you.
First "petrol head" I've heard that is worried about mileage.
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A45s are for the hair dressers. My (ex) sister inlaw has the A45s and driving it around for a few days it felt cheap to me. It gives you that feeling that it's the model you buy if you're on the broke side of life but needing to tell people you've got an AMG. Something try hard about it.........
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Oh great thread....not 
. So let me get this straight. You drove a C63 for an hour in slow traffic and you don't get it? Yeah, I don't get that either. That's the kind of driving better suited for a Toyota Camry.
Let me perhaps enlighten you. I've driven pretty much all AMGs from the A45S to the GT BS. Both of these just recently in Germany at the Nürburgring. I'm not gonna bash the A45S. It's a neat little go-kart for the small and tight European roads, but it's got horrible turbo lag and dynamically it's a mess. Understeers very quickly if you start throwing it into corners. It's an FWD car with a trick rear differential. Great for a bit of around town fun, but falls apart quickly for more serious driving. As others have said, it feels very cheap as well.
The C63 is an RWD GT. Throw it in Race mode and take it on an actual fun road and tell me again it's clunky. It's at a completely different level. It's a true drift machine, not an artificial one like the A45S with its trick differential. The C63 doesn't need a drift mode. It drifts naturally. It's dynamically at a completely different level and you'll feel that when you start throwing it into corners. Yes, it's a heavier car for sure, but you don't know the half of it after an hour test drive in traffic. I did drive mine in Europe for two months, and admittedly in the tight cities of Germany etc. it was at times a bit of a handful. Trying to get around in the tight city parking structures for example was a bit nerve-racking.
. So let me get this straight. You drove a C63 for an hour in slow traffic and you don't get it? Yeah, I don't get that either. That's the kind of driving better suited for a Toyota Camry.Let me perhaps enlighten you. I've driven pretty much all AMGs from the A45S to the GT BS. Both of these just recently in Germany at the Nürburgring. I'm not gonna bash the A45S. It's a neat little go-kart for the small and tight European roads, but it's got horrible turbo lag and dynamically it's a mess. Understeers very quickly if you start throwing it into corners. It's an FWD car with a trick rear differential. Great for a bit of around town fun, but falls apart quickly for more serious driving. As others have said, it feels very cheap as well.
The C63 is an RWD GT. Throw it in Race mode and take it on an actual fun road and tell me again it's clunky. It's at a completely different level. It's a true drift machine, not an artificial one like the A45S with its trick differential. The C63 doesn't need a drift mode. It drifts naturally. It's dynamically at a completely different level and you'll feel that when you start throwing it into corners. Yes, it's a heavier car for sure, but you don't know the half of it after an hour test drive in traffic. I did drive mine in Europe for two months, and admittedly in the tight cities of Germany etc. it was at times a bit of a handful. Trying to get around in the tight city parking structures for example was a bit nerve-racking.
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Oh great thread....not . So let me get this straight. You drove a C63 for an hour in slow traffic and you don't get it? Yeah, I don't get that either. That's the kind of driving better suited for a Toyota Camry.
Let me perhaps enlighten you. I've driven pretty much all AMGs from the A45S to the GT BS. Both of these just recently in Germany at the Nürburgring. I'm not gonna bash the A45S. It's a neat little go-kart for the small and tight European roads, but it's got horrible turbo lag and dynamically it's a mess. Understeers very quickly if you start throwing it into corners. It's an FWD car with a trick rear differential. Great for a bit of around town fun, but falls apart quickly for more serious driving. As others have said, it feels very cheap as well.
. So let me get this straight. You drove a C63 for an hour in slow traffic and you don't get it? Yeah, I don't get that either. That's the kind of driving better suited for a Toyota Camry.Let me perhaps enlighten you. I've driven pretty much all AMGs from the A45S to the GT BS. Both of these just recently in Germany at the Nürburgring. I'm not gonna bash the A45S. It's a neat little go-kart for the small and tight European roads, but it's got horrible turbo lag and dynamically it's a mess. Understeers very quickly if you start throwing it into corners. It's an FWD car with a trick rear differential. Great for a bit of around town fun, but falls apart quickly for more serious driving. As others have said, it feels very cheap as well.
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Oh great thread....not . So let me get this straight. You drove a C63 for an hour in slow traffic and you don't get it? Yeah, I don't get that either. That's the kind of driving better suited for a Toyota Camry.
Let me perhaps enlighten you. I've driven pretty much all AMGs from the A45S to the GT BS. Both of these just recently in Germany at the Nürburgring. I'm not gonna bash the A45S. It's a neat little go-kart for the small and tight European roads, but it's got horrible turbo lag and dynamically it's a mess. Understeers very quickly if you start throwing it into corners. It's an FWD car with a trick rear differential. Great for a bit of around town fun, but falls apart quickly for more serious driving. As others have said, it feels very cheap as well.
The C63 is an RWD GT. Throw it in Race mode and take it on an actual fun road and tell me again it's clunky. It's at a completely different level. It's a true drift machine, not an artificial one like the A45S with its trick differential. The C63 doesn't need a drift mode. It drifts naturally. It's dynamically at a completely different level and you'll feel that when you start throwing it into corners. Yes, it's a heavier car for sure, but you don't know the half of it after an hour test drive in traffic. I did drive mine in Europe for two months, and admittedly in the tight cities of Germany etc. it was at times a bit of a handful. Trying to get around in the tight city parking structures for example was a bit nerve-racking.
. So let me get this straight. You drove a C63 for an hour in slow traffic and you don't get it? Yeah, I don't get that either. That's the kind of driving better suited for a Toyota Camry.Let me perhaps enlighten you. I've driven pretty much all AMGs from the A45S to the GT BS. Both of these just recently in Germany at the Nürburgring. I'm not gonna bash the A45S. It's a neat little go-kart for the small and tight European roads, but it's got horrible turbo lag and dynamically it's a mess. Understeers very quickly if you start throwing it into corners. It's an FWD car with a trick rear differential. Great for a bit of around town fun, but falls apart quickly for more serious driving. As others have said, it feels very cheap as well.
The C63 is an RWD GT. Throw it in Race mode and take it on an actual fun road and tell me again it's clunky. It's at a completely different level. It's a true drift machine, not an artificial one like the A45S with its trick differential. The C63 doesn't need a drift mode. It drifts naturally. It's dynamically at a completely different level and you'll feel that when you start throwing it into corners. Yes, it's a heavier car for sure, but you don't know the half of it after an hour test drive in traffic. I did drive mine in Europe for two months, and admittedly in the tight cities of Germany etc. it was at times a bit of a handful. Trying to get around in the tight city parking structures for example was a bit nerve-racking.
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Where in GB are you? I have family in the London area. Was just there a few weeks ago. Between the quality of your B roads and average speed traps on the motorways I always wonder where the driving roads are. Seeing all the British YouTubers etc. tooling around in London traffic in their performance cars just makes me scratch my head. Seems like they always have to drive to France, Germany etc. for good driver's roads, or Scotland seems to have some nice open roads.
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Unfortunately the car was at a dealership in Liverpool so no where decent to get to in the time of the test drive - all inner city roads limited to 40 mph and less due to the level of traffic.
I actually live in Yorkshire and there are some great country roads which I enjoy throwing my A 45s around and cycling around - so definitely have some great roads in Yorkshire but that wasn’t where I could do a test drive
thanks for the insight on how you drive yours - it feels like I would do enjoy the c63s on the right roads and should sit back and enjoy when I can just cruise.
thanks again
I actually live in Yorkshire and there are some great country roads which I enjoy throwing my A 45s around and cycling around - so definitely have some great roads in Yorkshire but that wasn’t where I could do a test drive
thanks for the insight on how you drive yours - it feels like I would do enjoy the c63s on the right roads and should sit back and enjoy when I can just cruise.
thanks again
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The kinds of roads you drive on can make or break a car. I'll be the first to admit that the C63 is not a city car. Although, I've learned to drive it smoothly at low speeds, the transmission has adapted well to my driving style, and I have the full driving assistance features, so in traffic I just kick back and engage DISTRONIC and Active Steering and let the car do much of the driving. On the open roads is where the C63 is at home, though, especially the FL. Cruising on the highway it eats up miles after miles with a level of Mercedes-Benz luxury that's expected. The V8 is just purring along calmly at ~2000 rpm in 9th gear as opposed to the sewing machine noise of the 4 banger in the A45. Then hit up an empty canyon or country road, put it in S+ or Race with transmission in manual mode and let the beast out. It's a true grand tourer, but at low city speeds it definitely has a level of caged animal feel that's just waiting to escape and run wild.
Where in GB are you? I have family in the London area. Was just there a few weeks ago. Between the quality of your B roads and average speed traps on the motorways I always wonder where the driving roads are. Seeing all the British YouTubers etc. tooling around in London traffic in their performance cars just makes me scratch my head. Seems like they always have to drive to France, Germany etc. for good driver's roads, or Scotland seems to have some nice open roads.
Where in GB are you? I have family in the London area. Was just there a few weeks ago. Between the quality of your B roads and average speed traps on the motorways I always wonder where the driving roads are. Seeing all the British YouTubers etc. tooling around in London traffic in their performance cars just makes me scratch my head. Seems like they always have to drive to France, Germany etc. for good driver's roads, or Scotland seems to have some nice open roads.
The OP sounds well intentioned but inexperienced. A hot hatch will feel more fun than a supercar in a city and same syndrome applies here. But actually, living in London, I love my C63S with its Brabus 600 conversion. You learn how to drive and enjoy. But if urban driving is all you do, harder to justify,,but still quite possible!
gratuitous picture taken by my daughter yesterday with the roof down here in Germany (still running in)
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The OP sounds well intentioned but inexperienced. A hot hatch will feel more fun than a supercar in a city and same syndrome applies here. But actually, living in London, I love my C63S with its Brabus 600 conversion. You learn how to drive and enjoy. But if urban driving is all you do, harder to justify,,but still quite possible!
gratuitous picture taken by my daughter yesterday with the roof down here in Germany (still running in)
gratuitous picture taken by my daughter yesterday with the roof down here in Germany (still running in)
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Help - test drive. 21 plate C63s - lovely spec - low mileage coupe
found it heavy and clunky - compared to my pocket rocket A45s - not sure why it’s 30k more than my A45s - doesn’t feel it - especially the tech side
obviously love the noise - but an hour test drive in slow traffic and 40mph roads - brought 15mpg average - which was quite alarming
I am a massive petrol head and they do turn my head - however I was a little underwhelmed and feel the novelty of the noise may wear off or am I missing the point? Please enlighten me
found it heavy and clunky - compared to my pocket rocket A45s - not sure why it’s 30k more than my A45s - doesn’t feel it - especially the tech side
obviously love the noise - but an hour test drive in slow traffic and 40mph roads - brought 15mpg average - which was quite alarming
I am a massive petrol head and they do turn my head - however I was a little underwhelmed and feel the novelty of the noise may wear off or am I missing the point? Please enlighten me
we dont need to convince you buy the car, go watch some youtube videos and see how happy people are driving it in London, Germany, the US
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Totally agree. Every car has a mission. Nobody buys an AMG GT Black Series just to get their groceries and run errands. One certainly could, it has a good size trunk after all, but it'd be akin to using a sledgehammer to hang a picture. Conversely, nobody expects to beat the BS's Nürburgring time with an A45S. Using the correct tool for the job is half the battle. But as you say you learn to manage the car in situations that are outside its sweat spot. The C63 took longer for me to really get into the groove, but that is partly because I was new to MB and AMG. The 9-MCT transmission takes familiarity to drive smoothly. In many ways it's surprisingly rawer than most dual-clutch transmissions, but I love it. Some of it has to do with the gobs of torque the V8 makes. But as I said elsewhere before, some days I just rather jump into my wife's hatchback, not even a hot hatch at all, to run a quick errand around town. It's arguably the better tool and easier to park for just a quick run. We even use it for certain road trips over the C63 depending on where we are going, especially going up north during the winter since it has all-season tires vs. my C63 being on summer performance tires all year. Sometimes it's just easier to not have to worry about going somewhere with a nice and more attention grabbing car. Enjoy Germany!
But then..in a sense there’s no gain without pain. Back in the 80s or 60s it would have been the real pain of an overheating or over anxious bunny hopping over extended sports car. Right now, I cannot think of a better supercar/luxury/everyday compromise ever made, than these cars.
And when I say compromise I mean that in a qualified way. I drive a lot of supercars and tomorrow I have the good fortune to be crossing Bavaria on roads of my choice in my Brabus C63S. It’s really hard to say whether I would choose any other car for the journey, these cars are that good. Yet I had to remind myself today this is the same actual car I drive my kid a few miles across town to school almost every day in London, v max 30mph, and love it even then. Not like driving a Ferrari which you curse under your breath in town
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The kinds of roads you drive on can make or break a car. I'll be the first to admit that the C63 is not a city car. Although, I've learned to drive it smoothly at low speeds, the transmission has adapted well to my driving style, and I have the full driving assistance features, so in traffic I just kick back and engage DISTRONIC and Active Steering and let the car do much of the driving. On the open roads is where the C63 is at home, though, especially the FL. Cruising on the highway it eats up miles after miles with a level of Mercedes-Benz luxury that's expected. The V8 is just purring along calmly at ~2000 rpm in 9th gear as opposed to the sewing machine noise of the 4 banger in the A45. Then hit up an empty canyon or country road, put it in S+ or Race with transmission in manual mode and let the beast out. It's a true grand tourer, but at low city speeds it definitely has a level of caged animal feel that's just waiting to escape and run wild.
Where in GB are you? I have family in the London area. Was just there a few weeks ago. Between the quality of your B roads and average speed traps on the motorways I always wonder where the driving roads are. Seeing all the British YouTubers etc. tooling around in London traffic in their performance cars just makes me scratch my head. Seems like they always have to drive to France, Germany etc. for good driver's roads, or Scotland seems to have some nice open roads.
Where in GB are you? I have family in the London area. Was just there a few weeks ago. Between the quality of your B roads and average speed traps on the motorways I always wonder where the driving roads are. Seeing all the British YouTubers etc. tooling around in London traffic in their performance cars just makes me scratch my head. Seems like they always have to drive to France, Germany etc. for good driver's roads, or Scotland seems to have some nice open roads.
I understand why an A45 may be better for a city, a C63 up through the mountains of i70 and a cls through the long stretches of desert roads near Las Vegas
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I don't think the C63 coupe is as good of grand tourer as the CLS and the GT 4door. Those tracked and ate up miles. Did not take a lot of focus. The C63 with shorter wheel base is better dynamically and I would suggest more of a sports car than a GT. Not saying you can't eat highway miles with a C63 -- it just isn't its primary mission like the CLS or GT 4 door. That's my impression anyway.
I understand why an A45 may be better for a city, a C63 up through the mountains of i70 and a cls through the long stretches of desert roads near Las Vegas
I understand why an A45 may be better for a city, a C63 up through the mountains of i70 and a cls through the long stretches of desert roads near Las Vegas
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