thats hilarious

 

im just puzzled at the fact that he wont run me at the track and all he is interested in is rolling races... especially if the dude is running drag radials on a claimed 400+rwhp M5 against my 337rwhp C32 on street tires!!! If im gunna drive anywhere north of Miami we might as well run at the track where it is legal and safe, sorry I am not familiar with any race spots up north and I will not put my *** at risk after I had to bail 2 buddies of mine out of jail recently for street racing up in Lauderdale. If APK is willing to take the trek down to my spot in Miami (where there is no room for roll racing) then I will be glad to oblige anytime. Also, I cant confirm this but I heard from some1 on SFR that theres a guy with an M5 that hangs out with SFR bimmer drivers going around claiming to call out all benzs in S. FL including specifically myself, and claiming that all the benz owners are backing down and scared. Again, it is only a rumor, and I do hope to God that those claims of this person talking **** arent true b/c if its true then theres a problem.

 

Some of you guys are really a joke. I won't even respond to that and I am probably one-third your age.

 

Wow!!!

 

I will run any of you at any time on the street. I'll even run the mighty E55 that will smoke the crap out of a CL55 on 20's. Anybody that wants, PM me at any time. I am tired of this crap and ready to prove a point. By the way, the funny part is that you have spent 5423324235243234213432141234123412341234132412344 seconds responding to me, Mr. Improviz!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :p :p :p :p :p

 

So, APK, are you going to go to Moroso and drive like you promised to do here seven times? No, you say? So I take it you're admitting that you're a liar whose word cannot be trusted? Gee, that's what I've been saying since day one, and you have been very thoughtfully proving for us! :Y

Why should anyone bother with you when you've been proven beyond any shadow of a doubt to be a liar. Go to Moroso like you promised, liar.

 

...and we all know how good you are at keeping your word, right loser?

Dude, you HAVE been PM'd AND received phone invitations to show up at Moroso, and you pussed out and disappeared:
First invitation:
Second invitation:
Third invitation:
Fourth invitation:
Fifth invitation:

That's six chances in all that the members of this forum have given you to "make your point", loser...how many do you need? You are simply a joke. Even your fellow Bimmer owners now see how full of it you are.

Moderators, this is getting ridiculous...this has been going on for three months now, with no show from APK....clearly this punk is nothing more than a troll who has no inclination to show up at the track as he promised to do...I vote it's time to shut him down. If he wants to show up at Moroso, he can PM Benzo, SGC, or others.

 

Hey, one thing's for sure, Benzo: when you phoned his sorry *** and tried to get him to go to Moroso with the rest of you, he was a no-show, just like he was a no-show the five times SGC and others invited him to go:
First invitation:
Second invitation:
Third invitation:
Fourth invitation:
Fifth invitation:


He's nothing more than a chicken**** little punk with nothing but empty air and excuses. I say ban his worthless ***, let him go back to trolling the Bimmer forums where people might be stupid enough to buy his BS.

When this whole thing started on M5Board, his fellow Bimmer owners were telling him that he should show up and represent, and not make the BMW owners look bad. Too late!

 

You say that the CL55 has 100 more rwhp than my car. If my car is as slow as you claim, we won't even have to break the speed limit to prove me a liar. I am ready to go. You should stay out of it from here on out and let the people that are involved take care of it from here. Unless you want to fly down with a bikini and wave the flags for us to start. Benzo has run on the street much more than I have, so don't tell me that he is not comfortable to do it. There are some roads that I know of where seeing a car late at night is like winning the lottery. I was willing to go to the track until Benzo who is the guy that I have basically talked to the whole time brought up the possibility of a quick, easy street run. Then we agreed that we would do this. I also talked with Steve who said he would come to Boca any time to meet me and do a couple of friendly runs. Both of them seem class acts, unlike one immature, name-calling guy that is probably 3 times my age.

 

Don't hate on me just because a Honda Accord can whoop your a$$ off a light. I haven't raced anyone for months, and the guy in the CL55 that I beat was a straight up guy unlike some of you. He was surprised and asked me what I had done to the car. We admired each others cars and went our separate ways.

 

Oh, this is funny...the guy who refuses to race from a dead stop despite claiming to have beaten a CL55 from a dead stop, who won't show up and run at a track despite a $500 reward, who only wants to race from a 20 mph roll, and who wants to have his buddy do his driving for him is the *last* one who should be talking **** about anyone getting their a$$ whopped off a light.

A friggin' little old lady in a Buick could probably stomp your *** at a light, given how desparately you're trying to avoid it.

The bottom line is that nobody here believes your bull**** (as if anyone ever did). You're a liar, have been proven to be a liar, and could have settled this thing on any of seven previous occasions by going to Moroso as you promised to do. You've been claiming that "ready to go" from day one, but the thing is, you never show up!!

Be a man, and go to Moroso like you promised. Until then, your lies are exposed for all to see:

First time:


Second time:
Third time:

Fourth time:

Fifth time:

Sixth time:
So why didn't you show up when a CL55 agreed to meet you at the track, liar?

Seventh time:
CHICKEN OUT!!! <= APK's homepage!!

 

I'll go with anyone from a street light. Let me guess, you ran a great time the first time u went to the track. You probably couldn't break 15.

 

Improviz, good job in keeping up the discussion, I wish I had an AMG so I could have backed up you on the discussion, any way good job. next time people will think twice about making false win claims or think a race really happened when the other guy was not even trying to race. Good Job

 

i'm not questioning the source, i'm just curious about the large difference.

You've got to admit it seems out of place considering all the other trap speeds and cornering speeds.

Considering its a large lap there isn't really practical to keep lapping around until you get a time you can't better. This means that theres bound to be a minor mistake here or there and maybe brake fade would come into play (esp the M5 based on reports).
I don't think delimiting the SL55 would be the whole reason for the 6 seconds difference but a natural variation in the car and conditions would be partly the cause too. Its alot to make up in the top end

i just assumed that the SL had a lower COG just by looking how much lower it looks, and a still have a hunch it does have a lower COG despite your claim. I just noticed that the M5 looks very tall and narrow, but it is still a speculative claim on my part.

i agree with you and i'd never purchase a car based on its track time, more important is how the car feels in everyday driving.

 

I talked to the guy before and after the race. We complemented each others cars and agreed to after the light changed. He then asked me what I had done to the car. I told him to go one more time but he had to go, so we smiled and said bye. I am more sure that this race occurred than the fact that improviz is an ignorant guy who needs to get a life. The stock M5 runs about a 13.0. Mine is not stock, so the idea that my claim is implausible just shocks me.

 

....the bottom line is that nobody here believes your bull**** (as if anyone ever did). You're a liar, have been proven to be a liar, and could have settled this thing on any of seven previous occasions by going to Moroso as you promised to do. You've been claiming that "ready to go" from day one, but the thing is, you never show up!!

Be a man, and go to Moroso like you promised. Until then, it's pretty easy to determine what a liar you are simply by reading the following in light of your current refusal to go to Moroso:

First time:


Second time:
Third time:

Fourth time:

Fifth time:

Sixth time:
So why didn't you show up when a CL55 agreed to meet you at the track, liar?

Seventh time:
CHICKEN OUT!!! <= APK's homepage!!

 

No, liar, it runs a 13.3-13.4:
Road & Track got 13.3 @ 108; in same test, E55 AMG ran a 12.4 @ 116:

Road & Track also tested the M5 in March 2000, where it ran a 13.4 @ 107.8

Car & Driver gets 13.4 @ 108; in same test, E55 AMG ran a 12.5 @ 116

Car & Driver also tested an M5 in March of 2000, where it ran a 13.3 @ 107.

Again, you could settle this if you'd honor the original deal you made (as you can see, my original challenge, which you accepted and promised to honor, was to go to a TRACK) and show up at the track, but we all know why it is you don't want to go: for the same reason you want your friend to do the driving for you: you can't drive for ****, and you know it.

What's really sad about this is that you seem to honestly believe that there is someone out there reading this crap you're shoveling who believes it. You're really pretty pathetic, dude...hope you learned a lesson from all of this.

 

APK is like John Kerry on Meet the Press this past Sunday :p

 

HONDA ACCORD BEATIN AN S430 YEAH RIGHT, thats like a BMW M5 beating a CL55, oh and Tupacs my brother.

 

Forget the race, this is pretty much a gang thing, BMW guys against MB guys, we call our people they call their people, and we fight at moroso.
lol

 

[QUOTE=Improviz]No, liar, it runs a 13.3-13.4:
Road & Track got 13.3 @ 108; in same test, E55 AMG ran a 12.4 @ 116:

Road & Track also tested the M5 in March 2000, where it ran a 13.4 @ 107.8

Car & Driver gets 13.4 @ 108; in same test, E55 AMG ran a 12.5 @ 116

Car & Driver also tested an M5 in March of 2000, where it ran a 13.3 @ 107.

Again, you could settle this if you'd honor the original deal you made (as you can see, my original challenge, which you accepted and promised to honor, was to go to a TRACK) and show up at the track, but we all know why it is you don't want to go: for the same reason you want your friend to do the driving for you: you can't drive for ****, and you know it.

What's really sad about this is that you seem to honestly believe that there is someone out there reading this crap you're shoveling who believes it. You're really pretty pathetic, dude...hope you learned a lesson from all of this.[/QUOTE

In one of the tests, Motor Trend tested a E39 M5 at 13.00- 13.1. @ about 110 (it was few years back). Maybe it was the conditions, maybe it was a really strong engine, maybe he was very deft at launching, or maybe he took a sh*t before he ran the car, who relly cares. Give it a rest, and let it go

 

So average them out. If in one test out of ten a car got a 13.08 (I checked, and trap speed wasn't 110 either), and a 13.3-13.4 in all the rest, it will still average out to a 13.35.

The point is that the overwhelming majority of tests were in the 13.3-13.4 range, which doesn't support the argument that "stock the M5 runs about a 13.0".

And this thread isn't about what a test driver has done; it is about getting APK to support his BS claim that he, from a dead stop, pulled a supercharged CL55 AMG to 110 mph. Again: APK has had numerous invitations to show up at a track and settle this, has promised to show up even more times than he was invited, but refuses to go.

Which doesn't support his claims either.

As to giving it a rest: no. As soon as he goes away, we'll stop throwing his lies up in his face, but he will NOT be getting the final word in this matter. We went to a great deal of trouble to arrange a get-together, this wuss didn't show to it or to any of the times SGC invited him to go to the track, and he's still talking smack.

But talking is all he does. If you want to support such a liar, fine, but I would suggest you go back and read this thread in its entirety before casting your lot with this loser.

 

Just talked with Steve. We are going to run in about a week or so. I am willing to race a car that will smoke the CL55 on 20's that I beat. You are the only person who does not acknowledge that. You can moan and b@tch all you want just like you were doing the other only time that I agreed to be somewhere. Spend some time with your family or get a hobby unless you are coming to florida. We would both love to have you.

 

Yeah, sure you will. Given your track record (or more accurately, your lack-of-going-to-the-track record), we won't be holding our breath.

Oh, really? So who is it exactly that's saying a whopping 180 pounds of weight will allow the E55 to "smoke" the CL55? Who is it who has raced the two cars directly?

Anyone? APK keeps claiming that all of these Mercedes drivers are saying that the E55 will "smoke" the CL55...who are you? Stand up and be counted.

Motor Trend's test of CL55: 0-60: 4.27 sec.; 1/4 mile: 12.38 @ 114.45:

Motor Trend's test of E55: 0-60: 4.2 sec.; 1/4 mile: 12.39@ 116.21:

So, Mercedes owners who claim that an E55 will "smoke" the CL55, please explain the previous test results.

Hot Rod magazine did weight reduction on a car without any other mods to its engine or driveline, and found the following:

Losing 588 pounds gained them 5.8 tenths. The CL55 weighs 180 pounds more than the E55, and has the same engine, transmission, gearing, final drive ratio, and drag coefficient. So 180 pounds will be 1.8 tenths, or 0.18 seconds. Meaning that at best, an E55 would win by no more than one or two carlengths, assuming equal drivers. Meaning that if SGC can run a 12.11 in his stock E55, he could run a 12.29 in a CL55--a far cry from what your sorry *** will ever obtain on a track in your M5.

And you know this, which is why you refuse to go. Tell us: is your new meeting going to be at the track, assuming you show up at all?

Actually, as I've shown no less than five times in this thread, you promised to go to Moroso no fewer than seven times. Further, my original challenge to you, which you accepted, was to go to a track. Finally, if you WOULD be a man and go to a track, you COULD run a CL55, as one agreed to meet your lying little *** at Moroso. But you didn't have the ***** to show up and run him, because you're a little ****-talker and nothing more. Easy to talk **** behind a keyboard, but not so easy to show up and make good, eh APK?

You're doing the same thing as last time: agreeing to meet to temporarily take the heat off, and then you'll conveniently have something else to to when the time comes.

I'm shaking in my boots, chief. Try not talking **** about superior cars if you don't like getting called out on your bull**** claims and lies.

 

The fact that a stock CL55 should pull a stock m5 makes it a superior car. Just because it is 50,000 more dollars doesn't make it superior either. The M5 will outhandle it any day of the week. So i guess a cobra with a pulley and no cats is also superior to all of the cars. You are a real joke. I told you what happened, you are wasting your time fighting it. You will have an easier time proving that the sky is pink because I and the guy I ran know exactly what happened.