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Old 05-16-2010, 01:40 AM
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Spotting CL55 Fake

Buddy of mine bought a 01 cl55(supposedly). Wife saw it already, but even she question it. Trying to determine without alarming the guy. It said cl55 on trunk, but no amg on right side. Had dual exhaust, but I believe the tips said Lorinser. In fact I believe it had a Lorinser side skirts as well.
Anyways, my buddy got it for $12k with 80k miles on it. Seemed a little too cheap, but I wasn't able to go with him to buy it. He sold almost everything he had to buy it.
Is there anything that the 01 cl55 have over the cl500 visually that distinguishes it.
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why don't you just look under the hood?
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why don't you just look under the hood?
I forgot to when I saw it the other day. Since there is no supercharger for that year. I guess you are just looking for AMG on the engine cover?
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I forgot to when I saw it the other day. Since there is no supercharger for that year. I guess you are just looking for AMG on the engine cover?
look for the "AMG" logo on the seats or dash. Its not that tough
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Old 05-17-2010, 08:04 PM
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Front and Rear track on the 2000 CL55 is 62.1 inches, while the the base model is 62.0 inches. Good luck : )

Just because the words AMG are on the seats and the dash does not mean those weren't also faked. I have known people who went to great lengths to fake the upscale model. Setting aside the silly track example above, I would check out the engine, tell him you heard these AMG engines are hand-assembled and signed by the craftsman who created them----see if you can spot that signature right in the middle of the engine. I suppose that too could be faked . . .
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His mama. Traded y0 mama in because she was squeaking.
Have your friend pull up the engine code in the dash display. I don't know what it is for the CL55, but that would be hard to fake.

How, you ask?

Enter Dyno mode.

Key on -> press and hold R... damn, I can't remember, and I don't have my 65 here to try it...

Then, hopefully someone here with a cl55 can tell you their engine code (it's the same).
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selling almost everything you have to buy a $12k car kinda sucks
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His mama. Traded y0 mama in because she was squeaking.
Nah. Coming up with the coin to fix the car you sold almost everything to get, now THAT'S gonna suck.
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I don't think the seats had an AMG logo on them, it did have the amg sill plates. I was just worried for the guy, but he believes it's a real AMG b/c it has air vents on the side skirts? He tells me thats how you can distinguish it from a cl500.
I don't live that close so I won't be able to see the engine to confirm it. Hopefully everything will work out for him. He doesn't question it, so I will have faith that he did his homework. I guess when he gets the dmv registration, then he will know for sure.
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you can ask him for his vin number and search it. there's a website here that you can put your vin number into and itll tell you all about your car plus all the options on it too.
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yea.. just check the vin number on carfax. It will pull up the model
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I don't think the seats had an AMG logo on them, it did have the amg sill plates. I was just worried for the guy, but he believes it's a real AMG b/c it has air vents on the side skirts? He tells me thats how you can distinguish it from a cl500.
I don't live that close so I won't be able to see the engine to confirm it. Hopefully everything will work out for him. He doesn't question it, so I will have faith that he did his homework. I guess when he gets the dmv registration, then he will know for sure.
Airvents on the side lol.

Dude 12k on a CL500 is still a good deal. So he has nothing to lose really.
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His mama. Traded y0 mama in because she was squeaking.
Get the VIN off his car.

Go to this website: http://old.mbclub.ru/mb/vin/?lng=eng
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Since it's a buddy of yours I wouldn't bring up the subject. Ignorance is bliss, and he is your buddy, right?
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An authentic AMG would have an engine plaque signed by the AMG tech that built the motor, right? I have seen lots of fake AMG badges and bodywork/bodykits, seats, wheels, tailpipes, spoilers for sale on e-bay over the years, but I have never seen one of those engine plaques for sale. If it's got a plaque it's real, no plaque it's real fake

Just as somebody else commented, $12k for ANY CL is a great deal, don't rain on the guys parade, if it is fake and that "good" of a fake he won't be embarressing himself too much...unless a real CL55 pulls up next to him and wants to race.

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Look at the registration.
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His mama. Traded y0 mama in because she was squeaking.
Not necessarily.

My engine cover is sitting in the garage. I got tired of getting my hands burned every time I removed it to tinker under the hood. So, since I don't have the plaque (on the engine), that must mean it's fake, no? :P

About the only ways that I can think of to make sure it's a real AMG is to run the VIN or get the engine code out of the computer.
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Old 05-19-2010, 07:25 PM
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CL55 2001 and 2002 do not have the signature. Engine cover looks just like that of the 500 with the "///AMG" badge on.

Like this
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Post 2003 CL55 engine looks like this (my 05')

Best way is to check the vin number
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Old 05-21-2010, 04:46 AM
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Check under the hood!!! lol

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As for your last comment before you edited, 2001/2001 CL55 do not have V8 on the side and do not have quad tips either.
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Originally Posted by Sathinas View Post
Nah. Coming up with the coin to fix the car you sold almost everything to get, now THAT'S gonna suck.
I'm sure that neglected maintenance is one of the reasons MB and AMG resale prices in particular drop like a rock.

Now I hear the dealers advertising free maintenance on some 2010 models - the pedestrian ones naturally.

You need to be able to pay to play with an AMG!

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He did get a great deal and you should congratulate him! I love CL500s/SL500s even though I have a CL55. (I put my AMG badges, etc on my G500 to really mess people minds!)

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LOL,LOL,LOL good point....
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selling almost everything you have to buy a $12k car kinda sucks
+1
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Your friend is completely nuts. To sell everything to purchase anything is a good start on the path to bankruptcy. To sell everything to purchase a depreciating asset is lunacy. Does your friend know the running costs of this vehicle? The purchase is the easy part it is the maintenance that needs to be looked at not just for a CL but any vehicle. The ABC issues will more than likely keep his car of the road for extended periods because he cannot afford the repair costs and will in the longe run probably force him to sell.

We all want things in life that at times we cannot afford. It is your friend's mentality of "I want it" that was one of the factors that has plunged the world into the GFC. Live within your means, stop worrying about purchases you cannot afford, discard the "keeping up with the Jones' mentaility" and you will see that life is good.
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