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Old 02-14-2017, 08:01 PM
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Not sure how you could read this thread and still choose to send a Car to this company.
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You are a better man than me

I would have already been tried -

convicted and the warden would

have thrown the switch

Ten months - $$$$$$$$$$$$$$

And still no data ect...

I have followed this thread from

day one

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beginning followed by months and

months of bewilderment as to

what was taking place

Hopefully it has come full circle

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"Happy day! Got my CL65!"


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Not sure how you could read this thread and still choose to send a Car to this company.
So agree with this. What a fcking joke that company is.

I'm also in bewilderment how a cl65 which is stock 21 psi of boost is making the numbers they are claiming. What am I missing here or did I just read something wrong? I get cai will add horse but aren't they claiming 800 whp on 3 more lbs of boost?
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That's a difficult way to measure hp. Boost is a measure of resistance and the larger manifolds and turbos will flow much better which means more hp with less boost. I'm sure it will be at the dyno within a few days of return to confirm hp levels.
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That's a difficult way to measure hp. Boost is a measure of resistance and the larger manifolds and turbos will flow much better which means more hp with less boost. I'm sure it will be at the dyno within a few days of return to confirm hp levels.
Right on knew I was missing something. Makes sense about the increased flow with the intake and turbos.
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Power is also about revs, and laser's engine will probably hold onto boost and hence torque to higher revs, so even if torque isn't increased that much (though I'm sure it has) power can be increased more than the increase in boost (as long as everything else is good, like the IC).

Stock V12TT's have relatively flat power curves, presumably because of the throttling of the stock turbos. Modern diesels are like this; such cars accelerate better than the power-to-weight ration would suggest, as the AVERAGE power during acceleration is closer to peak power. There's less to gain from holding on to the red line, but I presume SD's work will help to get round the breathing limitations.

Here's hoping so.

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Yes hp = (tq x rpm)/5252. The higher in the RPM range you can keep torque the more power you will make.
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Power is also about revs, and laser's engine will probably hold onto boost and hence torque to higher revs, so even if torque isn't increased that much (though I'm sure it has) power can be increased more than the increase in boost (as long as everything else is good, like the IC).

Stock V12TT's have relatively flat power curves, presumably because of the throttling of the stock turbos. Modern diesels are like this; such cars accelerate better than the power-to-weight ration would suggest, as the AVERAGE power during acceleration is closer to peak power. There's less to gain from holding on to the red line, but I presume SD's work will help to get round the breathing limitations.

Here's hoping so.

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Yes hp = (tq x rpm)/5252. The higher in the RPM range you can keep torque the more power you will make.
Thanks for the response guys. I am just hardworking dummy when it comes to engine dynamics and all that stuff.
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Looking forward to your dyno tests, track results, and feedback.
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So far she is running great. I do have a strange noise above 160 I am trying to figure out. I have stayed in it till 200 and the noise persists and will keep going even off throttle. I am thinking a window seal or something. I will look into it more tomorrow. I included a video of it making the sound.

Other than that the car is performing very well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gh2w...ature=youtu.be
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That thing is awesome! Speeds like that, I'd want all new rubber in the drive line and center support bearing, (if you haven't already).
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Originally Posted by StarvingArtist
That thing is awesome! Speeds like that, I'd want all new rubber in the drive line and center support bearing, (if you haven't already).
It does sound.mechanical but it disappearing below 160 would make me think it is caused by wind. If it happens on the dyno, it will be easier to trace.
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It does not happen on the dyno at 195mph and it is not mechanical. Its emanating around the windshield area. I spoke to Marcin about it and there have been a few cases where people have heard the same sound (I did a video) and then shortly after an A pillar cover blew off.
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I figure tonigh I will put painters tape over the seal on the a pillar to windshield and see if it shuts up.

Its also nice to know that unless I am doing a brake stand that even with the ESP off it still tames the wheel spin in a straight line. I assume a straight line cause on Top Gear I have seen him roasting the tires drifting.
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So your have run it across the dyno, what were the results?
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Originally Posted by LaserSVT
I figure tonigh I will put painters tape over the seal on the a pillar to windshield and see if it shuts up.

Its also nice to know that unless I am doing a brake stand that even with the ESP off it still tames the wheel spin in a straight line. I assume a straight line cause on Top Gear I have seen him roasting the tires drifting.
Glad the car is back, If you still hear it with the tape try cracking a window a small bit to see if the sound/pitch changes. I would think if air is leaking in the pressure difference will change the sound with a window open a bit. You did mention some minor touch up paint work was done. Was any rubber trim removed and not properly installed for paint prep? is the sunroof completely closed?

The limited slip also helps slow down wheel spin with the resistance of two tires, but if you cut the wheel a little it will easily push sideways.

So how much longer before you share the dyno sheet? What's the hold up? There has been nothing but excuses for the completed power. Regardless of what it is, high or low, it should be shared to give others an idea of what can or cannot be achieved. Its crazy to think you didn't have an agreed minimum power amount, I realize there were a lot of firsts, but still. I'm sure when you bought your engagement ring, you took a close look at the GIA certificates, comparing the stones you were getting to establish value. All I'm saying is the same should be done with the dyno sheet. Better yet, get it to a track and show us what it can do.
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Thank you very much for the video upload.

When I see the MPH Speedo correctly its lets say 13 seconds from 140-185 MPH. I assume 125-140 is 1-2 seconds. 4th gear seems longer than in my SL65 because it goes up to 185MPH in the CL65.

For rough comparison: My SL65 stock did 125-185 MPH in approx.20 sec. and with a good ECU-Tune approx.16 seconds on US 93-94Okt.Pump Gas.

I know it is not accurate enough, but this is first indicator how much power is available.

I wish you good luck with eliminating the noise. I would first look at the roof or the sealings of the windscreen, windows.
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Originally Posted by BlownV8
So your have run it across the dyno, what were the results?
I just got it yesterday afternoon so no, no dyno yet. Be a week or so. I dont have instantaneous dyno ability.
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Originally Posted by LaserSVT
It does not happen on the dyno at 195mph and it is not mechanical.
Ok, was confused by this statement.
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I guess I took it the wrong way too. When you mentioned 195 mph on the dyno I assumed it happened in your possession. Hope the noise goes away, seems like you will be hearing it alot with the events you got planned and maybe a little highway fun.
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Originally Posted by BlownV8
Ok, was confused by this statement.
Yeah I told Marcin about it and he said was quiet on the dyno and then said three customers had the same sound and lost that A pillar trim piece at 200 MPH so I will use some painters tape and see what happens.


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