alexanderfoti

Hi all

EPC is not clear on this.

What is the right part number for the throttle body on a 215 55 amg (215.374)

EPC shows 3 different part numbers.

One, there are lots of second hand ones
the other seems to not exist second

any help would be appreciated!

cm60k

If you have "N/A M113", the part # should be "113 141 01 25",,

but if you have "M113K", part # will be "113 141 06 25"..

-;ZAYED;-

alexanderfoti

Many thanks! That is a shame. Lots of 01 25's available. No 06 25 :p

cm60k

Yeah, and it's more pricey as well..!

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alexanderfoti

Lots of USA ebay sellers listing 113 141 06 25 in the title, but pictures show 113 141 01 25 on the TB itself. I wonder if its a case of MB putting 06/25 on the box but a different PN on the TB itself.

cm60k

"01 25" is like any normal MB throttles & used in "N/A M113's/M112K/M272",,



while "06 25" specifically for "M113K" only, and comes with cable & rubber cap..!



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alexanderfoti

is 06 25 not just 01 25 with the cable and rubber buffer?

cm60k

As i know; "01 25" uses a differ pin wiring diagram & differ functionally coded through ECU than "06 25"..!

-;ZAYED;-

alexanderfoti

In that case, I will buy 06 25! :P

Thank you very much.

shardul

iTrader: (1)

I think I have a few used OEM M113K 74mm TB

cm60k

^^Go with this great helpFUL friend's Alex.^^,,

will NOT regret..

-;ZAYED;-

alexanderfoti

Thanks Shardul!

I will be in touch. I have annoying surge off idle and the throttle body has been making noises for a while. When I take a look and decide whether to replace or not, I will be in touch.

rbreaks

I have a 74mm TB for the CL55 if you need it, just pay shipping as I don't need it. It works fine, just replaced it for the 82mm TB.

Let me know.

rbreaks

74mm TB has been given away.

ctravis595

cm60k

A) 98-06 all "Cl500" & "N/A Cl55" & "Cl55K" uses (74mm).

B) 01-06 "Sl500" & "Sl55K" uses (74mm), Except 07-08 "Sl55K", which use (80mm).

C) the (82mm) only comes with N/A V6 "M272" & N/A V8 "M273" & N/A "R172 Slk55".

-;ZAYED;-

ctravis595

Daves1401

Hi All,

I am having a similar parts issue to the OP. I have a MY 2006 W211 E55, Australian Delivered. My service Garage is telling me that I need to replace the Throttle Body Actuator. My engine RPMs flare on start up and don't settle to a proper idle. Usually staying around 1500, but hunts around. It drops back to somewhere nearer normal when in gear, but it is still obvious it isn't running quite right.

I am told the Part No. is 113 141 06 25. The Garage has been unable to find the part for me; "COVID has decimated the supply lines" I have been searching online without luck. There are few US listings, but they don't shipped outside the US. I gather you can also get them reconditioned, but that isn't currently an option here either. When I search for 06 25 the prior 01 25 and 03 25 versions come up. Some parts sites and eBay say they are compatible. So I have been researching and there are threads/[posts that are confusing on the right part, compatibility, different throttle body sizes, different market version etc. I also see mentioned an 05 25 version which I gather is an SL 55K version?

From what I can tell, the 01 25 version appears to be for the W210 non supercharged 113 motor. I can't find anything to clarify the 03 25 version though?

Would appreciate any guidance on these parts, and/or other options. Obviously upgrading to an 82MM throttle body is one, albeit more complicated and expensive option (at least here, it is).

cm60k

A) "01 25" for 98-06 all N/A (M113's).

B) "03 25" is an old AMG factory#, MB replace it to "06 25", comes with (74mm), for 03-06 all (M113K's).

C) 2006-2008 facelift "R230 SL55K", comes with (80mm), #: "113 140 01 04".

D) 2007-2013 N/A (M272) & N/A (M273), uses (82mm), #: "273 141 03 25".

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Daves1401

Hi ZAYED,

Thank you very much for the info. So the 03 25 should in theory work with my car. The 03 25s i have seen listed do not have the plastic/rubber cover or the harness, so I am presuming this was the update that took the part to 06 25 designation?.

Daves1401

My MB Dealer has confirmed that MB have zero stock globally of the 113 141 06 25 Throttle Body. The dealer indicated the part may be available in 12 to 16 weeks, but the cost has more than quadrupled. I assume that means MB may consider getting it made specially? I am struggling to find anyone here in Brisbane Australia with experience with the Throttle Body and issues with them. I gather they have generally been pretty reliable. I spoke to a local tuner about upgrading the Throttle body, but he was not keen ,described it is real Head **** because of the retuning etc required , and the Flash style ECU being a another impediment that he really wasn't keen on. An it wasn't likely to be any cheaper either. An other shop has offered to remove and check electricals etc. The Tech is Ex an MB dealership, but I have not used them before because they are fair distance away.

Has anyone experience with this problem and/or alternatives?. I am particularly keen to finds out if an03 25 version TB can be retro fitted without major issues.

ctravis595

I have not tested it yet but discovered the 80mm throttle body in 2000’s v8 bmw’s is a Bosch TB with the same style connector and same number of pins

it could be bored out to 82mm...

that’s what I’m using on my twin turbo m113 build if it works

Daves1401

OK, another twist in this Tale. I dug my inspection camera out and eventually was able to read the part number on the back of the Throttle Body (upper) on my E55.. I was surprised to find it was A 275 141 00 86. My understanding is this was the Part No. for the CLS version of the 113K TB.. I have owned my e55 since 2007, so I am pretty sure it is the original TB. It does make sense that they would be compatible though. I have also seen a 113 141 00 86 version in my searching, though this may be the second TB?

Daves1401

Actually thinking about it, doesn't the 275 starting number designation refer to the M275 V12 engine from the same era? At least that seems to be how Mercedes Engine part # are composed. I found a 2nd hand TB with the 00 86 part No. on Oz eBay that is supposedly off a 1) 2005 SL55. Other eBay listings of the same part # are said to be of 2) 2003 S55, 3) a US E55 4) 2005 CLS55 and 5) a CL55.

So can anyone confirm these part numbers are cross model compatible??

And does anyone know what the part number of the 2nd (lower) TB is?.

I found this page;

https://www.ilcats.ru/mercedes/?func...00&language=en

Is the part labelled 38 Recirculating Air Flap the 2nd TB??. The Part # is shown as A113 098 01 50. This seems to be identical visually to the A 275 141 04 86 part I referred to above. All very confusing!