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Old Jun 27, 2003 | 08:56 AM
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New HID kit Group Deal Pricing....no need for dealer Xenon setting!!!

These are the HIDs you have been waiting for....no dealer setting needed...

I will explain the group buy and the retail price for the kits.

For the 'Mercedes Edition' retail price:

Stage 1 (4300k): $599
Stage 2 (6000k): $799

These are the only kits on the market that do not require a dealer to change your system settings....no special tricks either, use your lights as usual!

Now, for the group deal pricing:

Stage 1 (Mercedes Edition): $500.00
Stage 2 (Mercedes Edition): $700.00
Stage 1 (Regular): $400.00
Stage 2 (Regular): $550.00


I have included the regular kits, if you have another car you want to HID or you have friends you want to let into the deal that doesn't have a newer MB.

We need 10 kits to sell at this price, and we are looking at a 4-6 week wait (on the MB edition kits) since the kits need to be manufactured.

Anyone in NY, NJ area is more then welcome to meet me and view the lights/setup in person. Trust me these are amazing.

Any questions, please post.

Thanks,
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Old Jun 27, 2003 | 10:32 AM
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Sooo, This is just a replacement for the halogen bulb and not the housing/lense, correct?

Any photos? I would especially like to see the light pattern against a wall vs. stock.
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Old Jun 27, 2003 | 10:33 AM
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what makes the mb edition different than the regualr?
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Old Jun 27, 2003 | 10:39 AM
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This is an HID kit, the lense stays the same.

Pics can be found here:

http://www.eden.rutgers.edu/~ferraris/hid/index.htm

The MB edition will bypass your computer so the car still thinks its halogen.

This way you don't need to have a dealer set you "Xenon Present" setting and you dont need to wire you HIDs to a seperate switch or anything like that. No error or malfunction codes come up.

This is perfect if you lease or want to sell the car stock. (And for those who are having a hard time finding a dealer to set 'Xenon Present')

These group deal prices bring the MB edition kit at the same price of the normal kit retail....

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Old Jun 27, 2003 | 10:45 AM
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Originally posted by tifosiv122
The MB edition will bypass your computer so the car still thinks its halogen.
Is the bypass just a fat resistor in a heat sink? That's fine if it is. I just want to know if there will be anything that I have to worry about as far as placement of something hot like that.
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Old Jun 27, 2003 | 10:57 AM
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Originally posted by R4ND0M_AX3
Is the bypass just a fat resistor in a heat sink? That's fine if it is. I just want to know if there will be anything that I have to worry about as far as placement of something hot like that.

Thats my guess! It makes perfect sense. If I could figure out how much resistence the resistor needs to be I would go buy a cheap HID kit and try it myself. Does anyone know how to figure out how much resistence is needed to take 55w's down to 35w's?
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Old Jun 27, 2003 | 11:08 AM
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2 devices, the size of a pack of cigs need to be mounted as well as the ballasts.

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Old Jun 27, 2003 | 11:10 AM
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Originally posted by TimmyC230boy
Thats my guess! It makes perfect sense. If I could figure out how much resistence the resistor needs to be I would go buy a cheap HID kit and try it myself. Does anyone know how to figure out how much resistence is needed to take 55w's down to 35w's?
Its more to it then just a resistor...
The testing took over 4 hours...with several tries in and out...

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Old Jun 27, 2003 | 11:19 AM
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Originally posted by TimmyC230boy
Does anyone know how to figure out how much resistence is needed to take 55w's down to 35w's?
It's the other way around. You want to make the 35w load look like 55w. But that would suck up even more power at initial light off. So some delay of the additional load would be nice. But like tifosiv122 said it may be more than just a resistor. I'm not trying to ruin his group buy. Just trying to understand the product.
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Old Jun 27, 2003 | 11:30 AM
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Originally posted by R4ND0M_AX3
It's the other way around. You want to make the 35w load look like 55w. But that would suck up even more power at initial light off. So some delay of the additional load would be nice. But like tifosiv122 said it may be more than just a resistor. I'm not trying to ruin his group buy. Just trying to understand the product.
Honestly, its not my product...I have the product in my car and I am trying to pass the savings on to the board since I was the test car. I didn't spend the time developing it and I have no clue how it works...honestly. I know it took 4 hours and I know there was 2 devices that were added (in adition to wires and stuff) to make the kit work like it should. It took more then several attempts, and they do this for a living....I am very satisfied with the product, it works as promised.

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Old Jun 27, 2003 | 12:07 PM
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Re: New HID kit Group Deal Pricing....no need for dealer Xenon setting!!!

Originally posted by tifosiv122
Anyone in NY, NJ area is more then welcome to meet me and view the lights/setup in person. Trust me these are amazing.
Actually, wouldn't mind taking you up on that sometime, if you're serious.
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Old Jun 27, 2003 | 12:14 PM
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Re: Re: New HID kit Group Deal Pricing....no need for dealer Xenon setting!!!

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Actually, wouldn't mind taking you up on that sometime, if you're serious.
Im serious...I just won't drive 4 hours, so it would have to be someplace half way between us or something. We could set up a night meet if several people are interested.

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Old Jun 27, 2003 | 12:40 PM
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All FAQ can be found at the website:

www.hids4less.com

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Old Jun 27, 2003 | 01:26 PM
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What exactly is the difference between the MB kit listed on their website and this one? Do you know? Pricing on their website is the same as your groupbuy.
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Old Jun 27, 2003 | 02:26 PM
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So if we get the normal kit and install it, it will work fine as long as we have the dealer turn on "Xenon Present?"
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Old Jun 27, 2003 | 03:59 PM
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amdeutsch - The ones on the website are normal HIDS, you'd still need to go to the dealer.

c class 279 - Yes, the normal ones will require you to go to a dealer.

Basically the normal ones are modified to work with the MBs. There are several parts added to the kit, plus about an hour or so labor per kit (on their end). So the fact that the retail price for the MB kits are only $100 more is very cheap IMO. So what the deal is, is that those who buy now get the MB kit at regular kit prices and as an extra bonus, those who don't need the MB kit can save as well on regular HIDs.

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Old Jun 27, 2003 | 04:44 PM
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Here's my experience.... If you use the Hella balasts there is no need for resistors or a DAS setting mod. I've installed the kit with Hella blasts, from AutoToys.com in 2 benzes that have a DAS setting for xenons. Both worked without having to make a DAS setting change. I think the kit was only around $450...
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Old Jun 27, 2003 | 05:00 PM
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Originally posted by JAM
Here's my experience.... If you use the Hella balasts there is no need for resistors or a DAS setting mod. I've installed the kit with Hella blasts, from AutoToys.com in 2 benzes that have a DAS setting for xenons. Both worked without having to make a DAS setting change. I think the kit was only around $450...
Where they cars factory Xenon already? Thats sounds sort of odd that they work right out of the box...

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Old Jun 27, 2003 | 06:45 PM
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So in theory, if I just get their regular kit stage II ($550) and take it it to my DAS change friendly dealership they'll work and I'll save some cash? It seems to me this kit is aimed for those that can't get anyone to activate Xenon present. Whereas, if you can get it activated, you might as well get the normal kit?
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Old Jun 27, 2003 | 08:12 PM
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Originally posted by c class 279
So in theory, if I just get their regular kit stage II ($550) and take it it to my DAS change friendly dealership they'll work and I'll save some cash? It seems to me this kit is aimed for those that can't get anyone to activate Xenon present. Whereas, if you can get it activated, you might as well get the normal kit?
Yes, thats correct. In my case the dealer wanted 1 hours worth of labor to use the system ($100)...and then when I sold the car (and take the HIDs out) I would have to have the reset it again another $100....so $200 above the kit price...I didn't like that idea.

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Old Jun 27, 2003 | 08:21 PM
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If you guys want to go that route, dealer setup, I suggest you ask them first if they will do it before you order the kit, also ask how much they will charge...then you can weigh your options.

If you do a quick search on the board, some paid as much as $150 to setup the computer while others were able to get it done for free. Some people could not find a dealer that would be willing to do it at all.

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Old Jun 28, 2003 | 01:46 AM
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Well count me in on the group buy for some normal stage IIs. When can I expect them, are they in stock?
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What's with the stage1 stage2 crock o doodoo? It's just a different D2S or D2R bulb. And in the case of going beyond around 5000K it's just blue glass wrapped over the gas envelope!

What gives. Lame.
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Old Jun 28, 2003 | 06:40 AM
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What's with the stage1 stage2 crock o doodoo? It's just a different D2S or D2R bulb. And in the case of going beyond around 5000K it's just blue glass wrapped over the gas envelope!

What gives. Lame.
I didn't invent the terms, they did.

http://www.hids4less.com/www/info/in...age=st1st2.htm

c class 279 - I will start taking money as of late next week. From then, once 10 orders are placed, the normal HIDs will ship out right away.

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Im interested in the Stage II MB Edition. I was just wondering if anyone has instructions on installation? Also will you ship up to Canada?
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