I'm getting in here a little late, but I'll try to get up to speed:

Fast Eddy:

Ease-up on the personal attacks on Karl: he's got a right to his opinion, and a right to ask questions. I didn't read anything Karl wrote to include a personal attack on Kleemann (the company), nor anyone else for that matter, including you. Just voice your opinion without the ad-hominem (personal) attacks, OK?


Regarding Magg-Moss:

Its true that the burden of proof rests with MB to show the aftermarket product 'caused' the failure to be covered under warranty to happen. However, the standard MB needs to meet to reach its burden of proof is very low or very ease to show because its one of a 'preponderance of the evidence' or a showing that the damage was 'more likely than not' a result of the aftermarket addition. The introduction of statistical evidence showing the number of non-modified vehicles with warranty claims for that particular damage VS. warranty claims for 'modified vehicles' for that particular damage under warranty would likely suffice to meet the burden. Lots of experts; lots of time; lots of money. Its a pretty good bet that MB has more of all of the above than you or I.

Its all pretty confusing stuff, and a lawsuit in general, particularly under Magg-Moss, is something to be avoided at all costs. My 2-cents, if your going to get any aftermarket modifications done, do as Mach says and get an aftermarket warranty from a rated, reputable company to cover any damage to OEM and the aftermarket parts that may be attributable to the aftermarket upgrade.

Regarding Insurance/Liability:

While I do think Karl is reaching a bit when he asks about the potential liability arising from tuning-up your MB ... there are cases similar enough to infer support on his point:

For Instance: Many people have been involved in shootings in self defense. On the surface, they appear to have justifiably used deadly force in defense of imminent danger of death or grave bodily harm (the standard for use of deadly force in almost every single State in the US). However, once the prosecutor got a look at the gun they used while defending themselves, the prosecutor noticed that the owner had some action work done to the gun to make it fire more quickly; and some ejection-port work done to let the spent casings eject more quickly to let a new round chamber faster; and even had the rough edges on the outside of the gun honed-down to make the gun easier to pull out quickly and fire fast ... they've gotten jammed-up with involuntary manslaugher charges as a result, instead of getting a medal for their actions as they should have.

Usually, its the actions and intentions of the actor that make him liable or not. Any good attorney can make an effective circumstantial case around modifications done to an instrument used as a deadly weapon (intentionally or not) to infer negligent or reckless behavior on the part of the actor. Whether the argument is successful or not really depends on how good 'the other' lawyer is.

Regarding Insurance/Property Damage Coverage:

My policy with State Farm specifically 'excludes' coverage for any aftermarket products damaged or lost as a result of a casualty (covered accident). So, if I wanted a Kleemann upgrade (or an aftermarket DVD/GPS/TV unit) to be covered under MY particular property damage policy, I would have to schedule it, and pay a higher premium, or find a way for the item to be covered under my homeowners policy.

Ask your insurance agent about the particulars of your policy for answers to your questions regarding this issue.

That's my 2-cents guys ... for what its worth.

Regards,

 

Thank you Drew for taking the time to respond to the substance of my questions/concerns.

Now, Mach430 volunteered to provide the names of the insurance firms, providing bumper to bumper 100,000 mile warranties, for Keeman modified CLKs for $1,700... or did I misread?

 

LMAO... I still have never found a "True" Bumper to Bumper warranty. Something is also not included....

 

What are we going to do----supercharge or not supercharge?

 

What about all the supercharged ricers in California, what about them-aare we going to let them be supercharged while we are going to be discussing homeowners policies here? Superchaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarge!

 

Eddy, I'm taking your advice I'll have my car back next Thurs or Fri.