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irokdastar 05-10-2019 11:29 AM

Springs & camber issue
 
Hello Everyone . I have Eibach springs on my clk500 had them a little 2 years . On the right rear wheel the camber is really bad . Is this a spring issue or can be something else? I took it to my mechanic and he said that there is no issue with the entire suspension in term of ball joint or wear of joints .
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...f45cee6a46.jpg
This is the left side which looks ok.
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...48aa85c23b.jpg
Right side #1https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...584d8a77dd.jpg
Right side #2

Bmo Pete 05-10-2019 01:46 PM

My car's getting there also. I've read on this forum that there is a "rear camber kit" that resolves this issue. Now in the past, particularly with my old Audi's, the root cause was worn lower control arm bushings, which may be contributing to this excess camber, which is more obvious when lowered?

irokdastar 05-10-2019 01:55 PM

Thanks for the reply , The mechanic checked play in all the bushings and all are tight . He was pretty convinced it was the spring . Are you also running Eibach ?

Bmo Pete 05-10-2019 04:48 PM


Originally Posted by irokdastar (Post 7752553)
Thanks for the reply , The mechanic checked play in all the bushings and all are tight . He was pretty convinced it was the spring . Are you also running Eibach ?

No problem. The AMG suspension uses Eibach springs (Bilstein shocks), though a specific version I believe different than the aftermarket (as you can see, less drop than yours - I think). Hopefully Eibach sent you the correct spring spec, though I would think the only way the spring would contribute to the camber, is just a matter of them being too lowered, thus exaggerating the inherent negative camber in these cars. I have had issues with Eibach aftermarket sending springs that had unbalanced excessive rear "squat" compared to the front springs (05.5 A4 Avant). I assume you replaced your shocks, to appropriate sport shocks for lowering springs?

If your springs and shocks are proper spec, ultimately the best remedy would seem to be the camber adjuster I mentioned. It should be a quick install for your shop.

Fatz 05-10-2019 09:56 PM

Did the indy check the wheel bearings as well? You might check that the wheel runs true and does not wobble when rolling. If one spring deteriorates so much more than the other of a pair installed at nthe same time, I would think a warranty replacement would be in order.

Bmo Pete 05-13-2019 01:14 PM


Originally Posted by Fatz (Post 7752892)
Did the indy check the wheel bearings as well? You might check that the wheel runs true and does not wobble when rolling. If one spring deteriorates so much more than the other of a pair installed at nthe same time, I would think a warranty replacement would be in order.

Interesting. I've actually had an Eibach Sport spring break on me once, after about a year on the car, so I'm a little skeptical about their quality. Their customer service was apologetic and very good about replacing the set though.

irokdastar 05-13-2019 03:42 PM

I got these with the Bilstein B12 kit which included these springs . I spoke to the Eibach and they said I should buy a rear set and send them back the old ones . Once they get it they will test it and see if the spring sagged . If it did they will refund me for the new ones . But if not they wont . But like I said I took it to a shop and they tested the entire suspension . Can anyone recommend a better company ? is H&R Better ?

Bmo Pete 05-14-2019 12:55 AM

On another car, I had a set of H&R sport springs matched with Bilsteins (HD’s I think - they were short). The car sat lower than with Eibach’s, but the ride was not terrible and the handling was very tight. Good quality springs.

irokdastar 05-14-2019 10:36 AM

I also noticed that the rear sits much lower than the front . Is that eibach thing ? Also can you guys recommend a good camber kit ?

Fatz 05-14-2019 11:55 AM

I use KMAC bushings for then rear camber adjustment capability. They also make kits for then front.

Bmo Pete 05-16-2019 09:22 AM


Originally Posted by irokdastar (Post 7755153)
I also noticed that the rear sits much lower than the front . Is that eibach thing ? Also can you guys recommend a good camber kit ?

The rear "squat" has been an Eibach thing in my experience, with two of my Audi's and to an extent, with this OEM set on my CLK55 (the uneven front vs. back fender gap really triggers my OCD ;)). The H&R's had even fender gap but they do seem to sit lower, so ya have to compensate for that when considering the wheel/tire set.

irokdastar 05-17-2019 11:38 AM

Any advice where I can get a good camber kit for this car ?

Fatz 05-17-2019 01:33 PM


Originally Posted by irokdastar (Post 7757801)
Any advice where I can get a good camber kit for this car ?

K-MAC - They are also on the sponsor list I believe.

irokdastar 05-21-2019 11:24 AM

I checked and they want $400 for a kit . I was at a tire store and they suggested that I put spacers to fix the camber issue . Is that true?

Bmo Pete 05-21-2019 12:13 PM

I see there's a less costly kit by SPC - perhaps lesser quality and functionality? ...but better than "spacers"?

SPC Kit on ebay

irokdastar 05-21-2019 03:01 PM

I found these what do you think ? https://www.ebay.com/itm/Mercedes-Be...wAAOSwax5Yt2C7

Fatz 05-21-2019 05:10 PM

I don't understand how spacers will correct the problem to too much negative camber. The ebay link referenced adding the caster bushings ($140) in addition to the arms. Would both be needed?

I don't have any experience with other ways to address the rear camber adjust issue. I searched around a few years ago before going with K-Mac. They have performed well - no issues - doubled the rear tire life to about 22K-24K miles.

waveterrorist 05-22-2019 11:52 AM

I have adjustable rear camber rods on my D2 racing setup. To get a good ride height in the back I had to use some bigger spring pads.

irokdastar 05-24-2019 04:49 PM

What size did you get the pads? and where did you get them ?


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