** Evosport CLK63 Black Series Project **
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I was ready to ship my car to Renntech in Florida but this car caught my eye. Any info ASAP would be appreciated
Finally, I am not very familar with evosport. What little I do know about them is that I thought they were BMW tuners. Do they engineer and manufacture there own stuff, or do they just resell Kleeman, Brabus and Renn stuff?
Finally, I am not very familar with evosport. What little I do know about them is that I thought they were BMW tuners. Do they engineer and manufacture there own stuff, or do they just resell Kleeman, Brabus and Renn stuff?
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I was just checking out all the photos of the project car a little closer, why is the front end blurred out in all of the exterior profile shots? Are they developing a new top secret nose or bumper cover? Has the car already been crashed? Just caught my eye and made me a bit curious.
Earlier this evening I did speak with someone at evosport about sending my Black Series to them for similar work. He seemed friendly and knowledgable. I see that the person posting above me would recomend evosport, how about the rest of you, anyone else care to share their experiences with evosport with me? Any input would be appreciated. Quality and timing are my two biggest concerns. Do the deliver what they promise? Do they meet deadlines?
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Earlier this evening I did speak with someone at evosport about sending my Black Series to them for similar work. He seemed friendly and knowledgable. I see that the person posting above me would recomend evosport, how about the rest of you, anyone else care to share their experiences with evosport with me? Any input would be appreciated. Quality and timing are my two biggest concerns. Do the deliver what they promise? Do they meet deadlines?
Thanks
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I was just checking out all the photos of the project car a little closer, why is the front end blurred out in all of the exterior profile shots? Are they developing a new top secret nose or bumper cover? Has the car already been crashed? Just caught my eye and made me a bit curious.
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Earlier this evening I did speak with someone at evosport about sending my Black Series to them for similar work. He seemed friendly and knowledgable. I see that the person posting above me would recomend evosport, how about the rest of you, anyone else care to share their experiences with evosport with me? Any input would be appreciated. Quality and timing are my two biggest concerns. Do the deliver what they promise? Do they meet deadlines?
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You can also do a search on the forum for more info as I can only share with you my personal experience. Feel free to PM me if you have any specific questions as well. Best of luck!
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I was just checking out all the photos of the project car a little closer, why is the front end blurred out in all of the exterior profile shots? Are they developing a new top secret nose or bumper cover? Has the car already been crashed? Just caught my eye and made me a bit curious.
Earlier this evening I did speak with someone at evosport about sending my Black Series to them for similar work. He seemed friendly and knowledgable. I see that the person posting above me would recomend evosport, how about the rest of you, anyone else care to share their experiences with evosport with me? Any input would be appreciated. Quality and timing are my two biggest concerns. Do the deliver what they promise? Do they meet deadlines?
Thanks
Earlier this evening I did speak with someone at evosport about sending my Black Series to them for similar work. He seemed friendly and knowledgable. I see that the person posting above me would recomend evosport, how about the rest of you, anyone else care to share their experiences with evosport with me? Any input would be appreciated. Quality and timing are my two biggest concerns. Do the deliver what they promise? Do they meet deadlines?
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As for your dead-line question. My car is the first BS that they have touched, I'm sure there is a lot of R&D and experimentation going on. When I initially sent them the car I told them I needed the car completed by the 1st week of February. However, I threw quite a few additional large projects at them once they got started (roll bar, wheels and a few other things). I then gave them another dead-line of the end of February, it appears they are on track (no pun intended) for a late February completion.
If you would like to send me a private message with your number I would be happy to fill you in, in greater detail.
P.S. I hope it's not crashed...it looked fine when it left me LOL!
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Awesome car. I still haven't seen a BS at the track up here in Washington... or on the road for that matter. How often do you track the V? I'm excited to see what the '09 V can do out on the track.
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I don't track the V very often...it is a very unreliable car. I am on my 7th rear end and 3rd tranny. When it runs it's fast (11.60's not hooking up in the 1/4), In fact my brother blew the rear end at the drag strip in the burnout box lining up against me in my BS back in September. I have taken it to a few road courses, it loves to stretch it's legs at Road America in Wisconsin, thats a HP track if there ever was one. I can run about 1.5 seconds a lap faster in my V than in my M3 at Road America but that is at the razors edge and it feels out of control at times, it will carry 22-25mph more than the M3 on the front straight and back straights...but then you have to stop it. The laps in the M3 feel effortless. On tighter courses the M3 is as fast or faster. I run the stock brakes with EBC pads, but get a lot of fade in just a couple laps. The brakes are a real weak area on the V. Let's hope the 09 is more reliable with better brakes.
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I still haven't seen a response to my previous inquiry. I prefer not to ship my car to California for a roll cage installation and would really like to know the difficulty level of the install and whether you can recommend anyone in the CT/NY area to do the install.
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Dymag Update
Look what a little English birdie dropped off today:
19x10 Front, 17lbs
19x11 Rear, 17.5lbs
*No realize, the weight is all in the middle, so these perform like a much lighter wheel then even that
I know some people were concerned about the pics we posted earlier as they had a little yellow tint to the clear - well that was with the early production ones. These should match the car perfect!
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19x10 Front, 17lbs
19x11 Rear, 17.5lbs
*No realize, the weight is all in the middle, so these perform like a much lighter wheel then even that
I know some people were concerned about the pics we posted earlier as they had a little yellow tint to the clear - well that was with the early production ones. These should match the car perfect!
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So in actuality these Dymags you posted pics off which doesn't have that "yellow" CF effect will be produced like that? The finish or clearcoat on it looks amazing as well. Are the prices on these posted on evo.com?
So in actuality these Dymags you posted pics off which doesn't have that "yellow" CF effect will be produced like that? The finish or clearcoat on it looks amazing as well. Are the prices on these posted on evo.com?
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Brad - very nice work on the cage. The attention to detail is fantastic. The Dymags are really nice and will make the car that much more fun to drive, not to mention removing unsprung weight which will make the car faster, more nimble and brake even shorter. However, I just do not like the yellow hue on the carbon barrel. Especially right next to the air extractors as you can really see the difference in the factory, non heat treated carbon.
Excellent work - now post a sound clip of those headers
Excellent work - now post a sound clip of those headers
The yellow hue is gone. Ours were apparently an earlier one and the process has been much refined. They came out with the CF almost perfect to the car.
Brad,
I have several questions on the chrome moly roll bar. What is the diameter and wall thickness on the tubing? Secondly, are the mounting points to the floor, frame rails or seat belt pick up points.
Although my car will see light track use, some clubs scrutinize safety equipment with very little flexibility and I don't want to have them drill a leather wrapped bar.
I have several questions on the chrome moly roll bar. What is the diameter and wall thickness on the tubing? Secondly, are the mounting points to the floor, frame rails or seat belt pick up points.
Although my car will see light track use, some clubs scrutinize safety equipment with very little flexibility and I don't want to have them drill a leather wrapped bar.
Yea, the guy we use is a true artist for sure. The best thing is that he is quick and reasonable!
They attach via the factory anchor on the rear seat back location and you need to drill one hole on the floor.
419whp on a dynojet 248c
*I had put 422 before, but that was with smoothing turned up inadvertently. 419 is with smoothign at 0*
It is all coming.
You are local - come by and say hi. If you are in OPA, I am in Cowan Heights - we are practically neighbors!
Nice rollbar especially the wrap. Looks very much like the tequipment bolt in Porsche one however that's aluminum- you might try that it weighed NOTHING! Also are there seat belt points to bolt it in? You might do it just like they do making it a true bolt in, although you have to bend them a little for fit usually to line up the holes-
It would drop the weight by 2/3.
It would drop the weight by 2/3.
We have someone working on Ceramic rotors for us as we speak! Middle of the year!
Thanks!
We certainly can send them out for non-local cars (that was the intention). I would estimate 12-16 hours depending on the tech's level of familiarity with the car (ie: pulling apart the interior)
That looks like it's going to be an amazing car. I am brand new to this forum today, I did not even know it existed. I just took delivery of my Black Series last month. I am looking to try to get some more HP out of her. I have been reading that none of the 63 motors are easy to squeeze much HP out of. I have a heavily modded CLS 55, which is tame enough for everyday driving but it's a rocket when I want it to be. Has anyone done anything that has given them any increases in HP or torque to any 63 motor? What kind of dyno numbers have you seen from this Black Series. Can you break down the HP increases for me. How much did the headers add, how much did the pulleys add, how much for the ECU, etc. What kind of mufflers did you run on this car? How much for the cage? Is that something you can ship me and I install myself or do I have to ship the car to California? I was ready to ship my car to Renntech in Florida but this car caught my eye. Any info ASAP would be appreciated
Finally, I am not very familar with evosport. What little I do know about them is that I thought they were BMW tuners. Do they engineer and manufacture there own stuff, or do they just resell Kleeman, Brabus and Renn stuff?
Finally, I am not very familar with evosport. What little I do know about them is that I thought they were BMW tuners. Do they engineer and manufacture there own stuff, or do they just resell Kleeman, Brabus and Renn stuff?
We do manufacture parts for and tune Mercedes as a profession, just like BMW. Although our racing is focused on BMW (due to the nature of the market), Mercedes is a major focus. We have extremely well trained engineers and techs (including one who was a lead US Brabus tech).
FYI, for those that do not know our BMW work, here is one thread on one car we recently built that is fun reading: TURBO e46 RACER
I was just checking out all the photos of the project car a little closer, why is the front end blurred out in all of the exterior profile shots? Are they developing a new top secret nose or bumper cover? Has the car already been crashed? Just caught my eye and made me a bit curious.
Earlier this evening I did speak with someone at evosport about sending my Black Series to them for similar work. He seemed friendly and knowledgable. I see that the person posting above me would recomend evosport, how about the rest of you, anyone else care to share their experiences with evosport with me? Any input would be appreciated. Quality and timing are my two biggest concerns. Do the deliver what they promise? Do they meet deadlines?
Earlier this evening I did speak with someone at evosport about sending my Black Series to them for similar work. He seemed friendly and knowledgable. I see that the person posting above me would recomend evosport, how about the rest of you, anyone else care to share their experiences with evosport with me? Any input would be appreciated. Quality and timing are my two biggest concerns. Do the deliver what they promise? Do they meet deadlines?
We are a younger company and we certainly have some customers with missed expectations or time-lines in our past. No company is perfect and sometimes it is impossible to please anyone. However, we strive to do the best we can, and we try not to hide from issues, rather address them head on. The more honest and direct we can be, the better for everyone!
Thanks all!
Brad
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We are a younger company and we certainly have some customers with missed expectations or time-lines in our past. No company is perfect and sometimes it is impossible to please anyone. However, we strive to do the best we can, and we try not to hide from issues, rather address them head on. The more honest and direct we can be, the better for everyone!
About the Dymags - It's my understanding that the yellow hue in previous wheels was as a result of the heat treating process.
Are these new carbon barrels heat treated ???
Thanks Brad !
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Yes, thanks. The Eisenmann issue is a tough one. I had heard rumors, but to hear that it is confirmed really sucks.
Yes, it was with the treatment, they have simply refined and updated that process and they are able to have an end product that looks like this!!!!
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Yes, it was with the treatment, they have simply refined and updated that process and they are able to have an end product that looks like this!!!!
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Wow....those are going to look amazing. And I can attest to the bolt on hp improvement with the Dymags. We saw a 37hp increase after putting them on one of our GT3 Cup cars. Reducing that rotating mass at the hub is key. The other benefit is greatly reduced braking distance allowing you to really carry lots of speed in and out of the turns.
This Black Series is going to be a F'ing beast on the track. I'd guess it'll turn laps in the 20's on the big track at Willow, possibly even teens if really pushed....
This Black Series is going to be a F'ing beast on the track. I'd guess it'll turn laps in the 20's on the big track at Willow, possibly even teens if really pushed....
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It just keeps getting better and better. Those wheels are insane! Are they available in a deeper lip offset? I know this is a Black Series thread, but are those wheels avaiable in a 19" fitment for a CLS 55? I'm rollin with a pair of one-off Fikse's, and I thought those were bada$$! Are Dymags custom built to order, or are they something I can get shipped in a few days? VERY INTERESTED FOR BOTH OF MY MB's!
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Wow....those are going to look amazing. And I can attest to the bolt on hp improvement with the Dymags. We saw a 37hp increase after putting them on one of our GT3 Cup cars. Reducing that rotating mass at the hub is key. The other benefit is greatly reduced braking distance allowing you to really carry lots of speed in and out of the turns.
This Black Series is going to be a F'ing beast on the track. I'd guess it'll turn laps in the 20's on the big track at Willow, possibly even teens if really pushed....
This Black Series is going to be a F'ing beast on the track. I'd guess it'll turn laps in the 20's on the big track at Willow, possibly even teens if really pushed....
Very cool that you saw similar gains. We run them on a few of our cars (especially last year testing them on a bunch of different race cars) just have not dyno'ed with them. You can feel the difference on track, that is for sure.
Turn in, braking, acceleration - everywhere!
It just keeps getting better and better. Those wheels are insane! Are they available in a deeper lip offset? I know this is a Black Series thread, but are those wheels avaiable in a 19" fitment for a CLS 55? I'm rollin with a pair of one-off Fikse's, and I thought those were bada$$! Are Dymags custom built to order, or are they something I can get shipped in a few days? VERY INTERESTED FOR BOTH OF MY MB's!
Split 5 spoke:
Here they are on one of our race cars:
They are VERY unique which is hard to do today in a quality wheel. And you are buying performance.
They are custom built to order in England. They take form 2 to 6 weeks depending on the size and options.
You can read more here: DYMAG SITE
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How much loot are we talking about here? Even if we are talking about $12,000 ( I would assume that is a high guesstimate) for a set I would consider that a relative bargain. If what everyone is saying about HP gains are true, 30-40 HP, plus improved handling, braking and killer looks...thats a bargain in my opinion. Hell, I paid $8800 for a set of headers that only gave me 26 HP, thats $338 per HP. If the wheels cost $12k and you see gains of 35 HP that equates to $342 per HP, thats a near equal investment. Sign me up!
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I was just on the Dymag website and I did not see a 19" x 11" fitment on their chart. Are you sure the wheels in the photo are 19"x 11"? Are you sure an 11" wide wheel is going to fit and clear everything?
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How much loot are we talking about here? Even if we are talking about $12,000 ( I would assume that is a high guesstimate) for a set I would consider that a relative bargain. If what everyone is saying about HP gains are true, 30-40 HP, plus improved handling, braking and killer looks...thats a bargain in my opinion. Hell, I paid $8800 for a set of headers that only gave me 26 HP, thats $338 per HP. If the wheels cost $12k and you see gains of 35 HP that equates to $342 per HP, thats a near equal investment. Sign me up!
Pics on the car hopefully next week. We are going to try to go 285 front and 305 rear!
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