C CLASSE COUPE TO GET BLACK SERIES VARIANT !!!
 

Gents Mercedes are planning a C Coupe to rival 3 series and A5 . This will later spawn a Black Series version . I dont know about you guys but I just made sex wee :zoom:

heres a photoshop of a coupe : ( this weeks autocar shows a picture of an amg coupe in disguise , it looks awesome )
http://www.egmcartech.com/wp-content...te_coupe_1.jpg

Isn't there already a C-Coupe .... It's called the E-Coupe ?

G

No matey thats the E coupe . There will be no E coupe black series variant .
The C on the other hand will have an amg version , a performance pack version ( in Europe at least ) then a Black Series version " in the spirit of the clk amg black series " .

heres a spy shot :
http://www.carsuk.net/wp-content/upl...-Coupe-Spy.jpg

a quote from " CAR " mag :

By Georg Kacher
Motor Industry
12 April 2010 11:27

Mercedes is readying a new coupé version of the C-class for launch in 2011. Aimed squarely at the Audi A5 and BMW 3-series Coupé set, the new 2011 C-class coupé will revive the CLK range which many had written off after the arrival of the new E-class Coupé.

In line with the new CL being rebranded S-class Coupé, the new two-door C will be badged C-class Coupé. It's due for launch in March 2011.

So it'll be a mini E-class Coupé?

Pretty much, yes. Our sources claim the two models will look quite different, despite sharing plenty of hardware under the skin. In fact, they're more more closely related than Mercedes would like us to know. How close? Well, why don´t you check out the wheelbase which is an identical 2760mm for the C-class, the C-class Coupé and the E-class Coupé?

Although beauty is in the eye of the beholder, the C Coupé promises to be much prettier than the overstyled two-door E-class. We haven't yet seen the car, but the main image above show an early design sketch for the two-door E-class – giving a flavour of current coupé thinking in Stuttgart. The front and rear ends will be adopted from the C-class saloon/wagon which are to be facelifted early in 2011 anyway. This explains the more sculptured bonnet, the restyled lights and the enlarged nasal air intakes.

Will the 2011 C-class Coupé be a two-pairs-of-pants-and-a-toothbrush weekend-away car?

Far from it, our sources suggest. The boot of the new two-door C-class holds the same 475 litres as the four-door model. And the revised interior happens to be almost identical in space to the C and E coupés.

Inside you'll find major improvements over today´s C-class. There's a repositioned and enlarged sat-nav monitor, an easier to use Comand system and a host of extra-cost driver assistance systems such as lane guidance, lane departure warning, blind spot warning, traffic sign recognition, night vision, automatic parking aids, cornering lights and cruise control with brake actuation.

The E coupe is 2 door version of the E class in other words a CLK, there is hatchback version of the c class called the clc they were everywhere in greece kind of like the hatchback w203

Mercedes is trying to simplify it line up. The E coupe has the same wheelbase as the C class but borrows some of the componets from the E. Don't think we'll see a C coupe as it would be redundent.

Usually the AMG models arrive within 9 mos of release of a MB model and with a switch to the turbo V8 it'll be a another year before it trickles down to the E coupe. Don't think we'll see a Black Series E coupe.

more details here :
http://www.autocar.co.uk/News/NewsAr...llCars/251745/

and here :
http://www.autocar.co.uk/News/NewsAr...llCars/251760/

UPDATE !
 

This weeks auto express has an update re the new clk black . It says it will be a run out model the black series version of the c class couple will be anounced in the summer with the car available in 2012 .
there are computer gen images and a pic of a test mule testing at the ring .

interesting ...

No link WT?
We like being hand fed! :D

Sorry sir i forgot to say they put it on the site a week after the actual mag . ill get a piccy on my i phone and post for you .

here you go :
 

http://i404.photobucket.com/albums/p...g?t=1288993858

http://i404.photobucket.com/albums/p...g?t=1288993856

http://i404.photobucket.com/albums/p...g?t=1288993856

http://i404.photobucket.com/albums/p...g?t=1288993855

Will there be a US version?

I saw an E coupe today and thought, "Wow, that would look nice with Black Series trim".

Thanks for the pics!!!

yes :)

no probs mate . apparently amg not wanting to make an e . not suited or so they say .:nix:

The E coupe has nothing to do with the C class or C coupe.

Marketing wise and wrt positioning in the lineup you are right. Technically (chassis et al), you are wrong.

Yes, You are right. I should have clarified it.

[QUOTE=forhamilton;4338590]Will there be a US version?[/QUOTE

My answer would be a big YES!!! considering we (US) are the largest part market share for AMG by a huge margin.

+1

How much is the C Coupe going to vary in size from the E Coupe? I drove a new E Coupe Cabrio and it did not feel much bigger than the CLK and when parked side by side the E Coupeappeared to be only a couple inches longer than the CLK. I'm not really sure where a C coupe would fit into their lineup size wise.

It'll be squeezed somewhere where it makes no sense at all as all makers seem to be doing...for instance BMW have the X5, X6, 5 series GT and 5 series Touring xi...I reckon MB/Audi/BMW have figured out confusing the customer is their best weapon:smash:

my understanding is the clk's will be a sportier drive than the more luxurious e classe and lower in cost . think 3 series coupe .
the amg's will sit with the m3 and the black will tower above all as a runout limited edition special .

I understand what you are sayong but my point is that the current E coupe is already competing both size and price wise with Audi A5s and BMW 335s, introducing a new C coupe will surely kill sales of the E coupe. An E coupe is not on par with a BMW 6 series so MB missed the boat if that was their goal.

AMG is launching a new model at the LA auto show next week. Might be interesting but it won't be a C coupe AMG.

Probably an econobox A Class to help meet the upcoming EPA fleet mandates for fuel mileage. MB has the 3rd worst fleet mileage of any car maker which sells automobiles in the U.S. Wouldn't suprise me if they started badging Smarts Cars as Benzes.

That's going to be the GL63 AMG with new bi-turbo V8, as I've been told...

smart counts for Daimler Benz as Mini counts for BMW for fuel milage. That's probably the sole reason they brought smart to the US. Effectively, smart already is a Mercedes Benz.

The way I understand it they will not be combined after 2012, they will both be there own seperate entities, EPA and NHTSA websites have all the info in detail. Everything changes after 2012, SUV's will be lumped into passanger vehicle numbers, as of right now they are alllumped in with vans and light trucks. Get ready for some real exciting vehicles being introduced so that EPA 35.5mpg averages can be attained. Honda, Nissan and KiaOne the plus side we are going to start seeing lots of turbos and SC's, but limited access to the electronics/ECU's means they will all be stale and boring with no possibilities of tuning.

If different brands in one corporation aren't allowed to compensate for each others emissions anymore, then a rebranding of smart to Mercedes-Benz is imminent. Same goes for Mini, although BMW is currently much 'greener' compared to Mercedes Benz.

Brands like Jaguar and Aston Martin will really have a challenge under these new regulations...

Lambo, Porsche, Bentley and Bugati are owned by Audi AG/Volkswagen Group and from what I understand they will not be lumped in with Audi and VW's mpg figures. Even if you lumped in the most fuel efficient brands from Audi AG/VW Group (VW and Audi) it would be impossible to acheive a net average of 35.5mpg. I'm not sure how Bugati is going to average 35.5mpg considering they offer one vehicle which gets less than 8mpg. Think about it, why else would Porsche be so focused on Hybrids:crazy:, the 2011 Cayanne S Hybrid was avaiable before the non-hybrid Cayanne S, and Porsche is already kicking ass with their 997 GT3 hybrid, the average Porsche owner could car less about fuel economy or MPG but they are building, racing and marketing these cars because they have to if they want to continue to sell cars in the U.S. As for Jaguar, they have already released info on some small displacment supercharged engines which look promising.

It's obvious that Obama and the EPA have not taken a serious look at the numbers because I think it's going to be impossible to acheive (no different than the rest of Obama's visions I guess)

Let me put it into terms everyone will understand, for every S 550 (15/19 mpg city/hwy) that Mercedes sells in the U.S they will have to sell 7 vehicles that get better than 39 mpg and according to the MB USA website Mercedes currently offers ZERO vehicles that can attain mpg rating of 35mpg or greater. How about a GL 550, try 9 cars that average 39mpg or greater. If the EPA sticks to their guns we all better get ready for the 2014 136hp AMG Bluetec A Class...enjoy :zoom:

wow you have some strange laws coming your way .

is this country wide and anyone have a link with more information please ? this sounds terrible :eek:

good luck ...

It all depends how this law is going to be enforced how we'll see the lineup of the carmakers change. Either strict (bye bye AMG) or by penalty (gas guzzler tax 2.0).

In Europe emissions regulation is also getting a lot stricter. Yet over here they opt to just tax the hell out of politically incorrect behavior (like Black Series). So the Bugatti's of this world just get more expensive, but not illegal. For now... But my guess is this will remain due to Germanies interest in the car industry in the European Union.

BTW, I'm also interested in links to sites with info about these regulations out of professional interest.

Here you go, links to both governement and private sites, let me know if you need more links.

Feel free to Google keywords such as 2012 EPA mpg mandates, 2012-2025 EPA CAFE, or Obama 2012 MPG mandate.


This first one is the best and easiest link to understand, everything is spelled out.

http://www.eia.doe.gov/oiaf/aeo/othe...cafe_stds.html


http://thehill.com/blogs/e2-wire/677...-fuel-standard

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...040101412.html

http://www.nhtsa.gov/staticfiles/rul...A_04012010.pdf

Here is the "New Model" being shown in LA, the 2012 CLS63, 5.5 L twin turbo V8 544 hp and 590 ft lbs tq, it says there is also an "AMG Performance Package" option that bumps the output to 571hp and 664 ft lbs tq, if it's true that's not bad...At least it's not an A Class LOL

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sourc...U3D0E_pOlL1GQw

Upsetting :( I would go to the show just for the new C coupe AMG.

E coupe is too soft looking this looks great its like like the C-class and SLK had a baby. Its got hips like the SLK black.

Doesn't a manufacturer have to produce a specific number of vehicles per year, (100,000?), before they are subject to any fuel economy standards? In this way, small auto makers, like Jaguar; Lambo, AM, etc. can continue to produce and sell their limited production vehicles to crazies like us who love them all. We in turn can then spend more on fuel tax which is very fair imho. lol

Bish

The fuel tax will be passed along to the consumer if and when it ever happens

I was actually referring to the fact that 'we' will spend more on fuel tax already due to the cars average economy being about 14mpg! lol

Bish

You bring up a very good point, about 25% of the price of a gallon of gas is local, state or federal tax, so by eventually doubling the average fuel mileage for vehicles they would be cutting their revenue in half.

Last month the national average for a gallon of regular unleaded gasoline was 2.59 per gallon, there is a $.184 per gallon fed tax, the state of IL (where I live) has a $.258 per gallon tax as well as a $.06 per gallon county tax, that's over $.50 per gallon going to big brother so it makes you wonder why they are shooting themselves in the foot with these types of mandates, what do they have up their sleeve? They are not going to take any money out of their own pockets so look for another HUGE gas guzzler take or HUGE increases in plate and sticker fees.

I would bet on a large increase in federal tax per gallon; something like 25c/gallon. IF that went only to repair the terrible roads we have to live with here in the USA I wouldn't mind paying it to be honest.

Bish

But don't forget, you are presuming that the tax money collected will be spent wisely and efficiently.

That requires quite a leap of faith.

I don't think the track record is very good on this one.

JDB

Fact: Less than 25% of the 18.4 cent per gallon federal gasoline tax goes back to supporting and maintaining highway infrastructures, makes you wonder where the rest of it goes :nix: The State of Illionois (where I live) has several toll roads, in 2009 those toll roads generated over $700 million, in addition to that Illinois has one of the highest state gasoline taxes in the country, you would think we would have some amazing roads here...nope, old, bumpy and filled with potholes and crappy repair jobs. The govenment just keeps spending and they use excuses like "greenhouse gases" and "global warming" to scare us all into believing thier crap and thats how they slide these taxes and stupid laws past the masses.

I am under no illusions guys as to how an increased federal gas tax might be spent. If you notice I capitalised the 'IF' in my comment. Perhaps I didn't stress it enough! lol

Bish

thanks for the links , very interesting and a little worrying .

update pics leaked on line
 

c class coupe pics leaked , a black version rumoured ...http://images.pistonheads.com/nimg/2...-c-class-L.jpg
http://images.pistonheads.com/nimg/2...-c-class-L.jpg

heres the c coupe . black series incoming !!!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9Dsm...feature=relmfu