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Old Feb 4, 2018 | 11:16 PM
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Maybe I miss understood you. I thought u meant gt3’s would depreciate by 50% over 3 Years. This 996 gt3 that u highlighted is 14 Years old and has depreciated almost 50% assuming it sells for a good bit less than advertised
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Old Feb 5, 2018 | 04:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Surge
Here’s a 997 GT3 asking $69K:
https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-...rIds=100020486

Don’t forget: asking price vs sold price are two VERY different data points.
The owners can ask for whatever they want. Doesn’t mean they will ever change hands at those prices.
There’s a mint blue one with PCCB on Autotrader that’s asking $89K. Has been for sale at least since July.

The GT3s do hold their value well. But that means 50% depreciation after a couple of model generations. The GT3 is not made in low enough volume to depreciate less. Porsche does a good job of holding back allocations so the public perceives the cars as being really hard to get and rare.
LMAO, this is a 14 year old car with 60,000 miles, and still the asking/selling price is not 50% of msrp(current GT3 msrp base is 143k) I would love to see any AMG GT car(gt, s, c or r) 14 years from now and what the price would be.
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Old Feb 5, 2018 | 06:12 AM
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Originally Posted by RobbieRob
LMAO, this is a 14 year old car with 60,000 miles, and still the asking/selling price is not 50% of msrp(current GT3 msrp base is 143k) I would love to see any AMG GT car(gt, s, c or r) 14 years from now and what the price would be.
I'm not saying a GTR would depreciate the same as a GT3! And you can't go by # of years for a GT3 since they only make them for 1 model year every 4-5 years.
The point is that a GT3 will depreciate quite a lot... it's not really rare.

Check out Bring a Trailer - quite a few GT3s with the highly acclaimed "Mezger" engine sold for less than 50% of new MSRP. And these are just one gen old.
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Old Feb 5, 2018 | 08:30 AM
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A GT is essentially a 2nd gen SLS. 7 year old 35k SLSs are in 130-140 range and have come down recently.

Yes the GTR was introduced at a lower price point, but that reinforces its value IMO. As such, no way your buying a GTR at 80k in 2 years. Maybe not in 5.
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Old Feb 5, 2018 | 08:48 AM
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I’d love to agree with you but the SLS is a completely different car from a historical, and future value perspective. The SLS was the first car entirely designed by AMG. And it has the last NA engine ever made by AMG. And the gullwing doors!

If the next gen GT cars bomb, the current GTs will have stronger resale.
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Old Feb 5, 2018 | 10:38 AM
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Surge, I’m sorry but RobbieRob is 100% correct re: GT3 residuals and you’re wrong. For a mass produced high performance vehicle there is probably not one other car that holds it’s value as well as a Porsche GT variant. They consistently hold at least 80% of their MSRP through the first 3-5 years, and some of them, (think an RS) hold far more and can/will even appreciate long term.

When you talk about a 996 GT3 it’s first of all the least wanted GT3 out there for many potential buyers, and it’s 14 years old as RobbieRob states. How many other cars can you point to that are retaining 50% of their MSRP after 14 years?

Whatever: historically AMG vehicles have not experienced decent residuals except for the BS cars and a GTR buyer like myself bought it to drive, track and enjoy knowing that yes, 3-5 years from now I’ll be lucky to realise a trade-in value of 50%; whereas a 991.2 GT3 might well be worth 75-80%. But I don’t care enough for it to devalue my enjoyment of the GTR one bit.

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Old Feb 5, 2018 | 12:56 PM
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Bish, yeah, I'm not debating AMG GT depreciation. (Unfortunately, they will depreciate more than a 911 GT3... I'd still rather have a GTR though!).

The GT3s DO depreciate more than 50% after a couple of generations. Take a look at BAT - that's the only site that shows the values the cars actually sold for.
You can't really argue that the car I mentioned is "14 years old" -- ya, but it's not the same as a typical car that is produced every year. A 997 911 GT3 is 1 generation old, even though its 4-5 years old... it's semantics and perhaps we are saying the same thing.

Bottom line, as I was going to get a GT3 but turned down my allocation:
if you plan to keep the cars for 5+ years, you are going to lose more than 50% of the new price with a GT3. A GT3 that is $200K today will be under $80K two generations from now.

A GTR that is also $200K today may be $50-60K after 5 years... that's the difference. It's not that much of a difference!
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Old Feb 5, 2018 | 01:59 PM
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Production Cars are not purchased as an investment . They are for use and driving pleasure. They depreciate with use.

if you are looking for resale value, you need to get a rare vintage car in perfect condition and then put it in a climate controlled garage and don’t drive it.

Who cares what the resale would be? It is a F-U money purchase . If you need the resale , these cars are not for you and you should consider a Volvo or Hyuandi
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Originally Posted by RobbieRob
LMAO, this is a 14 year old car with 60,000 miles, and still the asking/selling price is not 50% of msrp(current GT3 msrp base is 143k) I would love to see any AMG GT car(gt, s, c or r) 14 years from now and what the price would be.
Deja Vu

Go to post 37 in this thread--- I had addressed bad logic yet it appears to have not worked as he is back here pushing the same misinformed intel.

https://mbworld.org/forums/amg-gt-gt...oing-us-2.html

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Old Feb 5, 2018 | 09:31 PM
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Deja Vu

Go to post 37 in this thread--- I had addressed bad logic yet it appears to have not worked as he is back here pushing the same misinformed intel.

https://mbworld.org/forums/amg-gt-gt...oing-us-2.html
I tried as well. I even posted data points for reference, but it didn’t work. I’ll head back to Rennlist unless I get a GT R someday!
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Old Feb 6, 2018 | 11:47 AM
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Bish, yeah, I'm not debating AMG GT depreciation. (Unfortunately, they will depreciate more than a 911 GT3... I'd still rather have a GTR though!).

The GT3s DO depreciate more than 50% after a couple of generations. Take a look at BAT - that's the only site that shows the values the cars actually sold for.
You can't really argue that the car I mentioned is "14 years old" -- ya, but it's not the same as a typical car that is produced every year. A 997 911 GT3 is 1 generation old, even though its 4-5 years old... it's semantics and perhaps we are saying the same thing.

Bottom line, as I was going to get a GT3 but turned down my allocation:
if you plan to keep the cars for 5+ years, you are going to lose more than 50% of the new price with a GT3. A GT3 that is $200K today will be under $80K two generations from now.

A GTR that is also $200K today may be $50-60K after 5 years... that's the difference. It's not that much of a difference!
I highly doubt in 5 years the GTR will be priced at $50-60K that would depreciate faster than all other AMG models and we need to take into account the production numbers are lower on these vehicles than they are your other AMG products.
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Originally Posted by Surge
Bish, yeah, I'm not debating AMG GT depreciation. (Unfortunately, they will depreciate more than a 911 GT3... I'd still rather have a GTR though!).

The GT3s DO depreciate more than 50% after a couple of generations. Take a look at BAT - that's the only site that shows the values the cars actually sold for.
You can't really argue that the car I mentioned is "14 years old" -- ya, but it's not the same as a typical car that is produced every year. A 997 911 GT3 is 1 generation old, even though its 4-5 years old... it's semantics and perhaps we are saying the same thing.

Bottom line, as I was going to get a GT3 but turned down my allocation:
if you plan to keep the cars for 5+ years, you are going to lose more than 50% of the new price with a GT3. A GT3 that is $200K today will be under $80K two generations from now.

A GTR that is also $200K today may be $50-60K after 5 years... that's the difference. It's not that much of a difference!

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