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Old Dec 31, 2002 | 07:27 PM
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Just waiting for a sunny day for photos. So.Cal has been blustery and chilly the last couple (plus I work during all day light hours, need a holiday or weekend to take photos).

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Old Dec 31, 2002 | 08:03 PM
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Rain in Southern California and sunshine in Seattle?????

Look forward to seeing the pictures.

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Old Dec 31, 2002 | 10:33 PM
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Originally posted by etenn
Rain in Southern California and sunshine in Seattle?????

Look forward to seeing the pictures.

Happy New Year!!
etenn, did you use z-2, or z-5, and did you spray a little z-6 b4 and after coats? that car looks like it has less than 3 coats, you will get it much much more nicer, just put on 6-7 more, and you will love it, i have to wash our car tomarrow, and it is very very dirty right now, mainly because we drove over 50 miles in the last couple weeks, so it has a lot of dust, but even with that, it looks very very good
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Old Dec 31, 2002 | 10:40 PM
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etenn, did you use z-2, or z-5, and did you spray a little z-6 b4 and after coats? that car looks like it has less than 3 coats, you will get it much much more nicer, just put on 6-7 more, and you will love it, i have to wash our car tomarrow, and it is very very dirty right now, mainly because we drove over 50 miles in the last couple weeks, so it has a lot of dust, but even with that, it looks very very good
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I put on 3 coats of Z5 (Z6 between each) and 2 coats of Z2 with Z6 between and finished with Z6.
That is 5 coats of Zaino and a bunch of Z6.

How should it look? I thought it turned out pretty good and was a lot of work. Hope it was a wasted effort.

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Old Dec 31, 2002 | 11:01 PM
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I put on 3 coats of Z5 (Z6 between each) and 2 coats of Z2 with Z6 between and finished with Z6.
That is 5 coats of Zaino and a bunch of Z6.

How should it look? I thought it turned out pretty good and was a lot of work. Hope it was a wasted effort.

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that looks awesome, it looks different from mine only because i use all z-2. i have 8 coats of z-2. so overall yours will be more wetter looking, i thought you only put one or the other, i would just start layering more and more z-5, itllget really wet looking, and especially with all the curves itll look very very nice
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Old Jan 1, 2003 | 09:45 AM
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Originally posted by etenn
I understand you should add a coat or two of Z2 after a month or two. Do you just put it on over the existing Zaino or do you have to go thru the whole dawn and clay thing

What point to you have to start over or is there someway to just keep it up?

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Try to add a coat of Z2 or Z5 when you aren't happy with the water beading pattern or to hide minor scratches....just wait a day between coats to let it cure or add the ZFX to do multiple coats in one day.

Only use Dawn to start from scratch. If the surface starts to feel a little rough, use any clay bar over the Zaino with Z6 as the lubricant. You won't strip off any layers.

You shouldn't have start over if you keep it up. I have been told to add the ZFX at every 10 coats or so to help with the bonding, but I don't think it is necessary since very coat is supposed to bond by itself anyway.
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Old Jan 1, 2003 | 07:28 PM
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Put on another coat of Z2 today followed by a Z6. That makes 3 coats of Z5 and 3 coats of Z2.

Dodged a bullet today! I went out to put on the coat of Z2 and forgot that my wife drove the car around yesterday. Kept wondering why the applicator looked black when it hadn't with the other 5 coats. Did not figure it out until I had the Z2 on. Hated to even look when I wiped it down. Luck was with me and it did not scratch..whew!!!

I guess if hadn't had a memory lapse I could have used Z6 to clean it up before the Z2.

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Old Jan 1, 2003 | 10:05 PM
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Put on another coat of Z2 today followed by a Z6. That makes 3 coats of Z5 and 3 coats of Z2.

Dodged a bullet today! I went out to put on the coat of Z2 and forgot that my wife drove the car around yesterday. Kept wondering why the applicator looked black when it hadn't with the other 5 coats. Did not figure it out until I had the Z2 on. Hated to even look when I wiped it down. Luck was with me and it did not scratch..whew!!!

I guess if hadn't had a memory lapse I could have used Z6 to clean it up before the Z2.

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your applicator was black and you used zaino on it? if it was black go get a new one, i would get a lot at one time, like 4-6
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Old Jan 1, 2003 | 11:02 PM
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My applicator was black FROM Zainoing. I don't know what the black was. It did not wash out with dawn. Really don't know what it was. Looked like I washed my tire with it. It was new when I started. I have more from Walmart. Maybe I can use this one to Zaino my rims.

Whatever it was, it did not scratch or do any damage. Probably just dust mixed with Z2 from driving around and not cleaning (like a moron) before putting on more Zaino.

Like I said, I was lucky...stupid but lucky.
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Old Jan 1, 2003 | 11:20 PM
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My applicator was black FROM Zainoing. I don't know what the black was. It did not wash out with dawn. Really don't know what it was. Looked like I washed my tire with it. It was new when I started. I have more from Walmart. Maybe I can use this one to Zaino my rims.

Whatever it was, it did not scratch or do any damage. Probably just dust mixed with Z2 from driving around and not cleaning (like a moron) before putting on more Zaino.

Like I said, I was lucky...stupid but lucky.

it is probably dirt, this is what i do when i zaino....put the # of coats of z on the car, then do zaino on my rims with that applicator, when im done i throw it away
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Old Jan 2, 2003 | 02:09 AM
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Your applicator should never get dirty. If it does, it means you didn't wash the car well enough.
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Old Jan 2, 2003 | 10:33 AM
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Your applicator should never get dirty. If it does, it means you didn't wash the car well enough.
Justin..the car had been driven and not washed or cleaned before I put on the last coat of Z2

You can see in my post above that I forgot my wife drove the car the afternoon before. I was thinking that I was just putting another coat of Z2 over the original.

Stupid but lucky.
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Old Jan 2, 2003 | 12:34 PM
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Originally posted by etenn
Justin..the car had been driven and not washed or cleaned before I put on the last coat of Z2

You can see in my post above that I forgot my wife drove the car the afternoon before. I was thinking that I was just putting another coat of Z2 over the original.

Stupid but lucky.
errr, your gonna get scratches like that, you should get the CCD-california car duster, make sure its the original, its about 20 bucks. you jst wrap it in news paper for 2 days then you can use it, only use with your xar if it has very light dust
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Old Jan 2, 2003 | 01:32 PM
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Yep you will definitely see some scratches in your paint, hopefully they are only limited to the zaino layers.
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Old Jan 2, 2003 | 01:45 PM
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How about it EDJ and Rock....any pictures after all your hard work?

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hey etenn,

i have some pics at the url in my sig. the last few pictures of the bunch are post zaino.

the digital camera isn't so good so i don't really like the pictures but i guess you'll get an idea.

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Old Jan 2, 2003 | 05:56 PM
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Yep you will definitely see some scratches in your paint, hopefully they are only limited to the zaino layers.
I know I should have seen some scratches, but none!!

Lucky...won't make that error again. It wasn't that I didn't know any better, just that I didn't know my wife used the car and I thought it was still sitting in the garage waiting for me to put on a last coat of Z2

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Old Jan 3, 2003 | 01:44 PM
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Clarification please... As I understand it, you use Z1 the first time you Zaino (with Z2 or Z5) but not each time you apply additional coats of Z2 or Z5. What period of time is acceptable in between using coats of Z1 with Z2/Z5? Thanks, Brad. (Picking up new Black E320 any day now and want to Zaino immediately).
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You can either use Z1 or ZFX. If you use Z1 you will use it with the first coat. Drying time will considerable and you must wait a day to put on more coats of Z2.

If you use ZFX, you do not use Z1 and the drying time is cut to almost nothing. You can apply many coats right away.

Check out the Zaino Bros. Site for tips and application instructions.



http://www.zainobros.com/

It takes time but is really quite easy...must be or I wouldn't had put on about 7 coats :p

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