StevethePilot

I live in Arizona and I'm aware of the restriction of 7500 miles on a CDI before it can be registered (as a 'used' car) in California. I am wondering what the restrictions are in the other states that are restricting new car registration of CDIs, particularly New York?

AdvTHANKSance!

uberwgn

the rules seem to be similar/same in the other CARB states:

• Previously titled
• 7500 miles

StevethePilot

Danke!

harkgar

7,500 miles is easy to clock on a diesel. Buy a demo from MB. If you are looking for a CDi this would be a bigger problem - everybody wants one. The Bluetecs are a first year in North America and not available in Europe yet.

StevethePilot

As you may notice from my MP, I'm already driving a CDi. However, I may know someone who wants one in New York! That's why I'm asking.

STP

Green E-300 DT

There are several stupid N E states that follow our dumb C A R B
rules, and it seems like New York is one of them!

Sorry. Best to do a search like I did for the other states.

See: http://www.nydmv.state.ny.us/vehsafe.htm#diesel

Also See: The E320 BLUETEC does not meet emissions requirements for California, Maine,
Massachusetts, New York or Vermont, and is not available in these states.

Straight from the MBZ site. But you already knew that!

So one of the ways around that stupid rule, at least here in Kalliforneia, is to buy used
or register one new out-of-state in any other state (AZ?) until the odometer
shows more than 7500 miles and then transfer title into New York state.

HTHs

uberwgn

Most demos won't qualify as they're still on CoO

Untertürkheim

I seem to have actualy found a way around the stupid CARB restrictions, at least there have been no bumps in the road...my car is ordered.

First off, I took European Delivery so this was very easy to pull off and I didn't need to travel to purchase the car. You can either rent a mail box in another state or use a friend's address, use this address to purchase the car and pick it up. The car will be shipped back to the dealer that sold it, regardless of the address used for registration. Then you can pick up your car drive it until it has 7.500 miles, then go to the California DMV and tell them you moved.

Green E-300 DT

Let's say you go to a local dealer here in Southern California and order a CDI for ED.
The vehicle is built and you go over to the factory and take delivery, drive it there
and then turn it in for shipping here to that dealer in Southern California.
The local dealer here cannot deliver it to you without titling it to you,
and if he does, the vehicle will need license plates.
If the dealer delivers the car to you with a shipping permit, and you have a shipper come to that dealership and pick it up for shipping out-of-state without paying the local state and city sales taxes, the California Franchise Tax Board will be on you like bees on honey. I know, because it happened to my son-in-law.
They ran his name through the DMV and found out that he had a California Drivers' License, so therefore
he was a California resident and therefore owed all those taxes, license fees plus penalties.

They never gave up, and eventually he had to pay everything.

Now, my question is:

Is it possible to order the car here at a local dealer for ED, and when it is being shipped stateside,
have it shipped directly to another dealer out-of-state thereby avoiding the California hassle?

Tricky question to be sure, but just perhaps someone here knows the correct answer?

uberwgn

No, CA dealers can't sell the product new and it's not offered. There are some significant fines at the dealership level if they get caught up in this. I'm sure the owner could faces fines including charges of fraud and mis-representation.

Call a CA dealer and inquire about Euro Delivery of a diesel.

Green E-300 DT

The reason I wanted to be able to order locally, is that my local dealer has a really knowledgeable German gentleman who is their ED specialist and not only would I get the seven (7) percent ED discount,
but he indicated to me that the dealership could and would do even better than that!

I must take the time to drive the 35 miles down to Escondido and have a little chat with him.

'Course, if I wait much longer, it will not matter as the 2008s should be
able to be ordered soon as they supposedly will be 50 state legal.
I just do not want that 'urea fluid' business or whatever it is called.

Untertürkheim

They told me that they would issue a title to me (from Nevada) on the out of state address I used in the case I brought the car back with less than 7.500 miles.

Untertürkheim

Well, I guess Simonson will have to answer to someone...they've been around a long time though, which leads me to believe they know what they can and can't do.