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Old 06-03-2018, 11:32 PM
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I fixed the common oil cooler keak and upon reassembly realized how the egr is clogging up everything. It was a nightmare cleaning all the gunky ports. It's something I don't want to do again.

I blocked off the egr at the turbo and at back of intake, got it retuned for egr delete. I'm having issues with code P2413 "exhaust gas recirculation system performance". I have tried both leaving all the egr devices plugged in and unplugged and same code keeps coming back.

​​​​​​Has anyone done egr delete on newer om642s?
Any advice is greatly appreciated.

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Originally Posted by IvanWNY
Hi,

I fixed the common oil cooler keak and upon reassembly realized how the egr is clogging up everything. It was a nightmare cleaning all the gunky ports. It's something I don't want to do again.

I blocked off the egr at the turbo and at back of intake, got it retuned for egr delete. I'm having issues with code P2413 "exhaust gas recirculation system performance". I have tried both leaving all the egr devices plugged in and unplugged and same code keeps coming back.

​​​​​​Has anyone done egr delete on newer om642s?
Any advice is greatly appreciated.

Thanks.
I'm right in the middle of replacing the two oil cooler seals on our 2008 ML 320 CDI and yes, the intake manifolds are gunked up. Also, the connection between the swirl flap linkage and one of the swirl flaps is worn and I don't think the swirl flap motor is in good order either. All of this due to the EGR and PCV. The PVC on its own would probably not be so bad because it's only a bit of oil coming into the manifolds, but it's a mess with the oil in combination with the carbon/soot from the EGR.

Can you post details of what you did please?
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My Jeep had a MAF and a throttle plate of sort to restrict clean air intake and allow more post plate EGR flow which on the ecu ir saw as a decrease in air mass (lower voltage) while EGR active. Might help. In the end deleted, MAF (it was only used for EGR calculations on that car) castbportion of pipe containing egr throttle plate thing, all physical traces of stupid EGR...I was angry at it then lol.
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I'm not sure I'm quite following. Anyway, is your vehicle now running with or without modifications and with or without any error codes? What is the bottom line recommendation with this?

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I just deleted EGR solenoid and Flapper solenoid in mapping on my Benz. I was just saying that if you didn’t want to spend big money a lot of the Jeep crowd makes various delete circuits to block off EGR while making stock computer think it’s still there. I’ve been running this was for about 130-140 k miles now with zero check engine lights. Total mileage on car is now 215k.

Venting engine breather hose hose to catch tank instead of inlet side of turbo is turning off EGR keeps things pretty clean inside manifold and intercooler.
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I have a green diesel tune on my 08 gl320cdi. I have the egr turned off. When the time comes I plan to remove all the plumbing. I am not sure if they tune after 08 they did not at the time but that was 3 yes ago.
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I just deleted EGR solenoid and Flapper solenoid in mapping on my Benz. I was just saying that if you didn’t want to spend big money a lot of the Jeep crowd makes various delete circuits to block off EGR while making stock computer think it’s still there. I’ve been running this was for about 130-140 k miles now with zero check engine lights. Total mileage on car is now 215k.

Venting engine breather hose hose to catch tank instead of inlet side of turbo is turning off EGR keeps things pretty clean inside manifold and intercooler.
Very useful information to know that such a modification can work successfully over such a long period of time (130 to 140 k miles). Thank you.
I think I can live with the manufacturer's stock PCV setup of venting the engine breather hose into the air intake stream because all you get is some oil in the inlet manifold and inter cooler. For me the much bigger problem is the EGR because the EGR brings soot into the manifolds and that soot combined with the oil from the PCV causes a thick grimy paste to build up in the inlet manifolds.
In my vehicle, this build-up of thick grime also caused the Swirl Flap linkage to wear out and may have been a contributing factor to the Swirl Flap Motor error codes and fuse being blown.
I'd be interested to know how the EGR and Swirl Flap Motor mapping is done.
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Originally Posted by smiledr996s
I have a green diesel tune on my 08 gl320cdi. I have the egr turned off. When the time comes I plan to remove all the plumbing. I am not sure if they tune after 08 they did not at the time but that was 3 yes ago.
My vehicle is a 2008 ML 320 CDI so the tune should hopefully be available.
Do you mind sharing more details around the green diesel tune and how well it has worked so far? You only did the EGR delete? Are the Positive Crankcase Ventilation, Swirl Flap and Diesel Particulate Filter Regeneration functions unaffected? Do you know if your vehicle is running cooler and more fuel efficiently? Thank you.
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I’ve done GDE to a few of my diesel cars. On my OM648 v1.0 EGR is definitely gone, swirl valve does nothing other than keep valves wide open, didn’t trigger any alarms when I did open down pipe on my other 648 and really didn’t seem to car if wideband lambda/o2 sensor was plugged in or not...I hade a nice port and holder for it so kept it....just saying.

I dont have a later OM642 that runs right now...always looking, would prefer another W211 or W212 for CHEAP. My OEM Sprinter OM642 is down for count but it’s or was a work truck van. Coworker fixed that.
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I'm speaking to GDE right now about their Eco Tune. I don't want the additional power and torque in the ECO Tune if it comes at the expense of possible costly premature failure. The existing power through the factory settings is more than enough for our purposes. My concern is more with avoiding error codes and breakdowns, reducing unscheduled and ad hoc maintenance work and improving reliability and longevity. If others here who have done this type of modification, have also had good results and overall experience with their modifications, I may do the same.
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Every BS system eliminated is a potential failure point eliminating in my mind. Granted I don’t have a cow pee injection car but IF I did it wouldn’t be for long.
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I'm starting to see it that way too. I'll report on my experience here when I'm done.
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Originally Posted by Micah / AF1 Rac
Every BS system eliminated is a potential failure point eliminating in my mind. Granted I don’t have a cow pee injection car but IF I did it wouldn’t be for long.
I'm sorry, but I'm very new to diesels. Where is this MAF located? I'm still having EGR issues. When you did the deletes on your car, what did you tune out in software?

I'm still trying to get a CEL free car and I'm up for inspection soon. EGR is tuned out and deleted but still triggers a CEL, I'm thinking removing the MAF might fix this. Also wont set monitors.
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At that time I used GDE (Green Diesel Engineering) for reflash. Not sure if they still mess with MB but understand Malone does though it is off the menu. My MAF is located after airbox about 12 linear inchches from turbo compressor entry on u shaped pipe? I have the inline six though, the OM648 and my my OM642 may be totaled so I may not ever see it again (no huge sense of loss really there).
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Originally Posted by IvanWNY
I'm sorry, but I'm very new to diesels. Where is this MAF located? I'm still having EGR issues. When you did the deletes on your car, what did you tune out in software?

I'm still trying to get a CEL free car and I'm up for inspection soon. EGR is tuned out and deleted but still triggers a CEL, I'm thinking removing the MAF might fix this. Also wont set monitors.
How is your EGR 'tuned out and deleted'? To simply blank off the exhaust feed to the EGR valve on such diesels that have come out in the last 13 or so years, does not work I understand. The GDE (Green Diesel Engineering) Eco Tune works but not on 2009 and later models.
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How is your EGR 'tuned out and deleted'? To simply blank off the exhaust feed to the EGR valve on such diesels that have come out in the last 13 or so years, does not work I understand. The GDE (Green Diesel Engineering) Eco Tune works but not on 2009 and later models.
Give Malone a call, I'm sure they'll be able to help you out.


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