Turbo Hood Mod ????
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Oddly enough the car hasn't been garaged for many, many years....it was the "red headed step sister" to other stuff.
Now it's my favorite driver and will have it's own place in the garage come winter
I'll install a fine wire mesh beneath any venting I do....mainly to keep leaves, dirt, critters out....should also almost "atomize" any water that hits it when hot.....excluding a heavy down pour or direct stream of water....
Think of the aerodynamics when your driving, how rain moves rapidly across the surface of the hood and up the windshield.
I actually like your idea of using the wiper pumps !!!
ERL in the U.K. is big with their Aquamist water Injection....carry over from WWII fighters
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okay, I will modify my previous disenting opinion.
Those Mosselman cars are sweet. I think some of the appeal of the hood vents on that car is the fact that it looks like a race machine. Body kit, powdercoated rims... decals, the works.
Your car is just too clean... it's an everyday driver.
But if you do this, can I suggest a few things? maybe make them smaller. I don't know if that means you'd have to get something fabricated or what. Also add more slats and make them smaller as well.
The other thing is the angle... if you follow the OEM line/ridge down the hood to the grille, and see the angle of the grille vs. what the angle of the vent would be, they contrast in such a way that they won't flow.
But I've definitely come around a bit on this
Those Mosselman cars are sweet. I think some of the appeal of the hood vents on that car is the fact that it looks like a race machine. Body kit, powdercoated rims... decals, the works.
Your car is just too clean... it's an everyday driver.
But if you do this, can I suggest a few things? maybe make them smaller. I don't know if that means you'd have to get something fabricated or what. Also add more slats and make them smaller as well.
The other thing is the angle... if you follow the OEM line/ridge down the hood to the grille, and see the angle of the grille vs. what the angle of the vent would be, they contrast in such a way that they won't flow.
But I've definitely come around a bit on this
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Thank you...great work !!
What I notice first is that I need to reverse it so the louvers slant inwards if I use this set.
There is a set of Pontiac Trans Am vents fairly cheap on EBAY...a bit smaller and the louvers run front to back, more like the Mosselman...
This is trial and error in finding something that will work....
What I notice first is that I need to reverse it so the louvers slant inwards if I use this set.
There is a set of Pontiac Trans Am vents fairly cheap on EBAY...a bit smaller and the louvers run front to back, more like the Mosselman...
This is trial and error in finding something that will work....
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You car looks amazing already,Just please do both sides so it look uniform..Because of the location of my Turbo the 300D diesel fender will work perfectly,But I need to spend a lot of time to make the driver side fender the same as I want a uniform look....But that is way down the line,I still have not been able to find the time to put it back on the dyno for final settings.
Do it--you car no longer is a stock car, and at this point you likely could care less about selling it at some point...
on a side note I finally realize why you are so impressed with H&R springs and sport bils...I have a silver coupe here that has just that suspension with shortest springs pads with 18x8 inch wheels all around and it travels the road just as smoothly as a stock suspension car and corners at least twice as good as my cab,so H&R are in my future maybe...
yeah I know the background is dirty as heck,but pay attention to the car...
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You car looks amazing already,Just please do both sides so it look uniform..Because of the location of my Turbo the 300D diesel fender will work perfectly,But I need to spend a lot of time to make the driver side fender the same as I want a uniform look....But that is way down the line,I still have not been able to find the time to put it back on the dyno for final settings.
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.Topic: RB, I think the vent would take some of the car's class away but I don't think your going towards to total hardcore luxury look anyways right? If steering towards the tuner/performance category the vent will look just fine
imo
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You car looks amazing already,Just please do both sides so it look uniform..Because of the location of my Turbo the 300D diesel fender will work perfectly,But I need to spend a lot of time to make the driver side fender the same as I want a uniform look....But that is way down the line,I still have not been able to find the time to put it back on the dyno for final settings.
Parts cheap enough on EBAY, but difficult at times to get dimensions.
The Z34 Lumina's might require too much sheet metal work, looking for something that will "pop in" to a hole and sit fairly flush.
Leaning now toward a 78 280ZX set which are rectangular and appear to be an easier install.
Would prefer a metal type so if need be it can be tacked in !
Do it--you car no longer is a stock car, and at this point you likely could care less about selling it at some point...
I'm trying to stay with body mods of the period and the heat extractors will help the performance.
If you recall even some of the AMG's had some "ricer" looking body kits...not to mention the EVO 190"s.
Probably won't ever sell it, but if I do, the fact that I'm attempting to maintain "provenace" will help in the valuation !
on a side note I finally realize why you are so impressed with H&R springs and sport bils...I have a silver coupe here that has just that suspension with shortest springs pads with 18x8 inch wheels all around and it travels the road just as smoothly as a stock suspension car and corners at least twice as good as my cab,so H&R are in my future maybe...
yeah I know the background is dirty as heck,but pay attention to the car...
yeah I know the background is dirty as heck,but pay attention to the car...
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No real front end lift on acceleration, keeps a great balance.
I'm not building a "how low can you go, drive slow, won't handle" machine...looking for optimum performance in using the chassis that MB provided !!!
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I crossed the line with the twin turbo install.
Remember the TT kits were designed for the U.K. market where you rarely see 90+ degree temps.
Mosselman used a top mounted intercooler and that's the reason for the twin extractors on the Silver Arrows.
They even recommended opening the hood after you run hard to dissipate heat.
I'll quote from an article in the September 2006 Mercedes Enthusiast Mag from the U.K.
"There are stainless steel heat shields on each turbo but there is no doubt that under bonnet temperatures are far higher than on the standard car. The black paint finish on the cam cover is usually very durable, but most of this car's has flaked off due to the heat "
The article was on Martin Traynor's TurboTechnics M103-12V sedan with 167K+ miles on it. ( The latest issue features his W124 Hammer which is the only RHD example left in existence ).
Heat can do long term damage to anything under the hood.
The W124's have a pan under the engine and with the hood closed you are capturing everything the turbo puts out.
Fortunately my cooling system has been well maintained since new, so even in high summer temps I rarely see 90C engine temp and yet to have the aux electric fan come on !!
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I'm really not sold on the vent idea so here's a couple of options off the top of my head.
Would removing the engine undertray help airflow when stationary or moving slowly? Is its purpose to reduce noise or improve aerodynamics at speed?
I wonder if you could rig up a switch inside the cabin to switch on the aux fans when in traffic even when the engine is not too hot to keep air flowing in the engine bay? Maybe even have them on a timer so they keep going for a while after you park up?
Would removing the engine undertray help airflow when stationary or moving slowly? Is its purpose to reduce noise or improve aerodynamics at speed?
I wonder if you could rig up a switch inside the cabin to switch on the aux fans when in traffic even when the engine is not too hot to keep air flowing in the engine bay? Maybe even have them on a timer so they keep going for a while after you park up?
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In the absence of the underbody shield water can splash up and cause a belt to slip. In the snow regions you also need to worry about salt and other road treatments getting into the engine bay.
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Absolutely loved the idea from the very beginning !! Now with the photoshop done to it, it looks soo good !!
Honestly, yeah it might not look as classy, but who cars !! Its time to be different and you are doing it because you need to !! Dissipating tubro heat is serious business and I say two thumbs up and then some more.
Yeah two hood vents would look perfect !!
Honestly, yeah it might not look as classy, but who cars !! Its time to be different and you are doing it because you need to !! Dissipating tubro heat is serious business and I say two thumbs up and then some more.
Yeah two hood vents would look perfect !!
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Hey boys, sorry been off for a week and just getting caught up. If your thinking about going for heat extraction then how about this? You should be able to do something similar to the w124 hood.
Sorry I don't have any better angles.
Sorry I don't have any better angles.
Last edited by joef; Jan 10, 2011 at 09:56 PM.
