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Hi I'm going to be installing vogtland springs into my 1999 e300td and according to vogtland it says total drop will be 40mm. I was wondering if speedybenz still sold camber kits because I dont want to go through tires fast.
Hi I'm going to be installing vogtland springs into my 1999 e300td and according to vogtland it says total drop will be 40mm. I was wondering if speedybenz still sold camber kits because I dont want to go through tires fast.
This kit should work, just verify with the seller.
Also, your ride height drop (after installing the lower springs) may vary slightly. Look into the various spring pads (pads #1-#4) to fine tune your height.
Check what Pad # you presently have on your sedan. Look up into the spring perches to see how many dimples are on the pad underside or feel for it.
This kit should work, just verify with the seller.
Also, your ride height drop (after installing the lower springs) may vary slightly. Look into the various spring pads (pads #1-#4) to fine tune your height.
Check what Pad # you presently have on your sedan. Look up into the spring perches to see how many dimples are on the pad underside or feel for it.
Yea, i was planning on switching to all #1 pads with the new vogtland springs. I should be fine with 18in amgs with lowprofiles right? no rubbing? Im also changing out old bushings and replacing them with polyurethane bushings i ordered from strongflex. Expecting to have no body roll and great handling. Ill check tomorrow what my stock pads are.
Yea, i was planning on switching to all #1 pads with the new vogtland springs. I should be fine with 18in amgs with lowprofiles right? no rubbing? Im also changing out old bushings and replacing them with polyurethane bushings i ordered from strongflex. Expecting to have no body roll and great handling. Ill check tomorrow what my stock pads are.
Pad choice will vary with each w202. Do not assume what others have used will apply to your sedan.
On our C230K, the original oem pads were #5 in the rear and #3 in the front. Intended swap was to go with #1 in the rear and the same in the front.
When we trialed, It was WAY too low. Finished it with #3s in the rear and #2s in the front (for 18" monoblocks). Still had to install a rear camber kit for adjustment.
The 18" monoblocks SHOULD work. Ours is a staggered setup. Still check the ETs on the wheels. As well, check all fender lips to see if they are already factory rolled or not. Our w202 lips were rolled already.
Tire sizes? - 225 40s front / 255 35s in the rear.
Ideally, 17" wheels are the best. 18"ers will definately be a more "road feedback" ride (depending on your road/highway conditions) (ie.NYC streets and 18" in an w202? - not recommended - unless it's just an "shelf queen".
Our streets/highways are fine here.
you're not going to know if you'll develop rubbing until you are presented with a combination of factors: lowered ride height (which will undergo settling over weeks/months), wheel selection and dimensions, tire make/model/size
because you are also refurbishing your bushings, you can't necessarily measure your current ride height and projecting a 40mm drop from there. I'm guessing the static ride height will be higher initially before slowing dropping over time as the springs and bushings settle
it is not realistic to program your current 'given' and expect a clinical result in height at this time. this means that if you attempt to extrapolate the 40mm plus 1 dot spring pads, you're not likely to find the aesthetics to be 'ooh, just right' at this time. of course, you can gamble a little on that and expect something close a few months down the road but do not be surprised if you find that you're needing to exchange the pads again.
I found the Vogtland purple springs (don't have model # right now) to be way too harsh and resold them after a month in exchange for Eibach - looks like model 90511. you shouldn't get much body roll with the Vogtlands, that's for sure.
you're not going to know if you'll develop rubbing until you are presented with a combination of factors: lowered ride height (which will undergo settling over weeks/months), wheel selection and dimensions, tire make/model/size
because you are also refurbishing your bushings, you can't necessarily measure your current ride height and projecting a 40mm drop from there. I'm guessing the static ride height will be higher initially before slowing dropping over time as the springs and bushings settle
it is not realistic to program your current 'given' and expect a clinical result in height at this time. this means that if you attempt to extrapolate the 40mm plus 1 dot spring pads, you're not likely to find the aesthetics to be 'ooh, just right' at this time. of course, you can gamble a little on that and expect something close a few months down the road but do not be surprised if you find that you're needing to exchange the pads again.
I found the Vogtland purple springs (don't have model # right now) to be way too harsh and resold them after a month in exchange for Eibach - looks like model 90511. you shouldn't get much body roll with the Vogtlands, that's for sure.
Good luck with your mods
Well i don"t care too much for how low it is. Thinking about getting 4 dot pad for rear and front instead, i don"t want any rubbing when loaded. But yea looking to get rid of body roll
Well i don"t care too much for how low it is. Thinking about getting 4 dot pad for rear and front instead, i don"t want any rubbing when loaded. But yea looking to get rid of body roll
Then lowering springs should not be your first consideration if body roll is your main concern. Check the condition of your shocks and the bushings to both stabilizer bars. Using lowering springs only without considering the present state of your oem? shocks is going to cost you more $$ to only have them swapped out later.
If you don't want any body roll, and are happy with the 4x4 look. Throw some Koni yellow shocks on there and crank the dampening up to max stiff. Literally zero body roll. I did it for ****s and giggles.
odd thing is that the first replacement shock I matched with the Vogtland springs was the yellow tubed,
3-way adjustable Koni. I was disappointed that even when I cranked it to the highest setting, I didn't
feel that it was firm enough, specifically the compression dampening was softer than I'd like. so I
sold it on this forum and bought Bilstein Sport, which had the same dampening rate ad their HD model
(but shorter). I've been very happy with that model on my 99 E320 RWD (again, swapped out the
Vogtlands for Eibachs.)
Then lowering springs should not be your first consideration if body roll is your main concern. Check the condition of your shocks and the bushings to both stabilizer bars. Using lowering springs only without considering the present state of your oem? shocks is going to cost you more $$ to only have them swapped out later.
I want the springs for the cornering and handling too. Also I just got brand new bilsteins shocks, I want car to be lower just not too low. Currently I can fit 4 fingers between fender and 18in tire... might get koni shocks later on.
I'm not kidding: after the suspension modifications, I still smile when I'm approaching a cloverleaf
intersection or freeway off-ramp and feel how well the car handles, tracks and it's speed is when
compared to stock configuration. The trade-off, of course, is that the overall factory plush ride is
a thing of the past. But my other cars included a british sports car and a 4x4 pick up truck (and
both with manual trans) so the E320 still feels like a whole new world anyway. Not for everyone
will enjoy the tighter ride but for me, it was well worth the 2-3 years in suspension product changes.
Eibach springs, Bilstein Sport shocks, 2/2 spring pads, 235 front, 265 rear tires on 18 wheels
(it has settled another half inch both ends since the photo)
I want the springs for the cornering and handling too. Also I just got brand new bilsteins shocks, I want car to be lower just not too low. Currently I can fit 4 fingers between fender and 18in tire... might get koni shocks later on.
And your just telling us this now?
It would be prudent for you to list all the things you've done already prior to you wishing for lowering springs and asking for recommendations.
odd thing is that the first replacement shock I matched with the Vogtland springs was the yellow tubed,
3-way adjustable Koni. I was disappointed that even when I cranked it to the highest setting, I didn't
feel that it was firm enough, specifically the compression dampening was softer than I'd like. so I
sold it on this forum and bought Bilstein Sport, which had the same dampening rate ad their HD model
(but shorter). I've been very happy with that model on my 99 E320 RWD (again, swapped out the
Vogtlands for Eibachs.)
Odd ive never seen 3 way adjustable koni yellows. Only the koni yellow sport 12 way adjustable. I had bilsteins on my car before and the konis have outperformed them in every possible way. I have like a 3.5-4 inch drop and my car handles like a dream on corners. I have even out-turned a e92 m3. One member here also had issues with the koni yellows, but i believe he bought used units. No telling how old they were.
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