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amusicianslife 01-05-2014 12:48 PM

W140 Monoblocks on W210 fitment issues
 
I've researched this topic and found some information but can't seem to find any solid answers or pictures. I was able to pick up a set of W140 monoblocks 18x8.5 et47 all around for a steal and am trying to figure out what size spacers I will need to run these and get them flush. I'm thinking maybe 20mm F and 25mm R?

The car is a 2000 E430 sport. I'm currently at stock height but will be on lowering springs eventually. Also debating whether to go with 235/40 or 235/35 tires. Any help is greatly appreciated!

siopaolover 01-05-2014 03:13 PM

You're going to rub on the control arm bolt in the front with ET47 and 8.5 width. My setup with ET37 and 8.5 rubbed slightly with 235 40. Also, you'll need pretty large spacers to get even close to flush with those specs.

Here's my fronts, 18x8.5 ET20 (because of 15mm spacers):
http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3674/9...1640e3e7_c.jpg
DSC_0855 by fbaladad, on Flickr

And my signature is the same specs, just lower.

amusicianslife 01-05-2014 06:34 PM

Thanks for the reply! It looks too like your fenders are rolled all around and slightly pulled up front. I haven't even checked to see if my sport has rolled fenders from the factory like the AMGs. I guess it's a possibility since it's the same body. Do you think 20mm front and 30mm rear would get close to flush?

And also, what size tires are you running now and how wide are your rear wheels if not the same as your fronts?

siopaolover 01-06-2014 01:12 AM


Originally Posted by amusicianslife (Post 5896590)
Thanks for the reply! It looks too like your fenders are rolled all around and slightly pulled up front. I haven't even checked to see if my sport has rolled fenders from the factory like the AMGs. I guess it's a possibility since it's the same body. Do you think 20mm front and 30mm rear would get close to flush?

And also, what size tires are you running now and how wide are your rear wheels if not the same as your fronts?

Actually, my fenders hadn't been rolled at all yet in this picture. I got them rolled the weekend after though :D

And I think 20mm front would get you pretty flush for the fronts, especially if you had 225 or 235. With my 25mm rear spacers, it brought my final offset to 10, which let me run 225/40 or 235/40 with rolled fenders.

Currently, my wheels are 18x8.5 all around and I have 215/40 Continentals on.

Let me know if you have any other questions :y

illest 01-06-2014 03:34 PM

A 15 or 20 mm spacer should get you close in the front.

devo540 01-06-2014 04:09 PM

I have same car same wheels and offsets as you (good to know they are from w140). it did hit control arm up front. I bought a 12mm spacer and its close but not flush with one coil cut in the front. im afraid 20mm would be mexiflush. I wish I would have gotten 15mm for front and 20mm for rear.


tires on mine are
225 40 f
245 40 r


edit: I change my response, I think 20mm up front would be perfect

siopaolover 01-06-2014 10:37 PM

A 20mm spacer would look good, especially if you are going to go lower. I thought 15mm looked great until I lowered it more, which gave me more negative camber in the fronts. lol

amusicianslife 01-06-2014 11:35 PM

Thanks guys for the help! I think I'll try 20mm front since I am planning on lowering on springs eventually. The rears appear to have more room and would need bigger spacers to sit flush. Not sure if I should go 25 or 30mm R.

devo540- Do you have any pictures? It would be really helpful to see what your set up looks like. Did you have to roll your fenders?

siopaolover- How much camber are you running now? I'd like to not go past -1.5 since this is my daily.

siopaolover 01-07-2014 02:29 AM


Originally Posted by amusicianslife (Post 5898213)
Thanks guys for the help! I think I'll try 20mm front since I am planning on lowering on springs eventually. The rears appear to have more room and would need bigger spacers to sit flush. Not sure if I should go 25 or 30mm R.

devo540- Do you have any pictures? It would be really helpful to see what your set up looks like. Did you have to roll your fenders?

siopaolover- How much camber are you running now? I'd like to not go past -1.5 since this is my daily.

I think 30 would be good, especially with -1.5 camber. And my rear camber is around -4.2 and my fronts are around -3.7

amusicianslife 01-08-2014 09:46 PM

Thanks for all the help! Any recommendations on spacers? I know I need hubcentric but how long do the lugs need to be if my fronts will have 20mm and my rear will have 30mm spacers?

If by any chance anyone has pictures of a w210 on w140 monoblocks please post them!

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