I could use some sage advice here...
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I could use some sage advice here...
Okay here is my predicament.
I am really torn over what to get. I currently have a 2003 E320 Sport. Its great. Love the car. I pay $600 a month. Its has a few options (sport pack, CD changer, trunk closer, sunroof, heated seats.) But, I'm getting a little burnt out of E-classes. My lease is up in 5 months.
It really bothers me to pay $600 a month for an expensive car that still doesn't have bluetooth or NAV or some other goodies. Something I can get in an Acura or a Lexus an pay less than $600 a month.
So, I've priced out a new E, one with the sport pack, then without and with 4-matic. Then a e500. Nothign seems to work. Basically, for $600 a month I'll have to drive a stripped E. That sucks. Why is MB pricing themselves out of the market? I mean the name is great - but not THAT great.
I guess what I am wondering, at $600 a month. Is it realistic to think a new E with 4-matic or a sport pack is even feasible? I don't really want to put down a zillion dollars. Moreover, should I even get another E? Maybe its time to think of something else.
I don't know. Anybody have any sage advice here? Anybody recant a deal to me that might make me feel better about my trip to the dealership this coming Firday? Should I just throw the towel in and go visit my Acura dealer and kiss MB good bye.
Thanks in advance.
I am really torn over what to get. I currently have a 2003 E320 Sport. Its great. Love the car. I pay $600 a month. Its has a few options (sport pack, CD changer, trunk closer, sunroof, heated seats.) But, I'm getting a little burnt out of E-classes. My lease is up in 5 months.
It really bothers me to pay $600 a month for an expensive car that still doesn't have bluetooth or NAV or some other goodies. Something I can get in an Acura or a Lexus an pay less than $600 a month.
So, I've priced out a new E, one with the sport pack, then without and with 4-matic. Then a e500. Nothign seems to work. Basically, for $600 a month I'll have to drive a stripped E. That sucks. Why is MB pricing themselves out of the market? I mean the name is great - but not THAT great.
I guess what I am wondering, at $600 a month. Is it realistic to think a new E with 4-matic or a sport pack is even feasible? I don't really want to put down a zillion dollars. Moreover, should I even get another E? Maybe its time to think of something else.
I don't know. Anybody have any sage advice here? Anybody recant a deal to me that might make me feel better about my trip to the dealership this coming Firday? Should I just throw the towel in and go visit my Acura dealer and kiss MB good bye.
Thanks in advance.
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05 w211 w/appearance package and 19" presidentials
Have you looked at any pre-owned, Im sure that you can find one without having to pay $600 a month, I pay just a little below 300 but I had a 25k trade in. How about a CLK or even a C, down grading isnt fun and it hits your your pride I know, but I had a loaner C230 sport. I enjoyed it even for just a day. Not as classy but people still do check out the car, even Acura owners.
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well 600
is not that much, i mean do the math. my other car is an o5 pathfinder which retails for about 35k. ok no one pays retail but mathematically if you bought it without interest for 60 months you are looking at 583.00, again with 0% interest.
so now you are looking to lease a 60K+ vehicle for 600??? anyhow unless you work for MB do not expect it and be ready to pay for what you want.
lastly of course the benz is more, no one said they were cheap but you definitely get what you pay for. an acure is cheaper cuz it is an acura....
so now you are looking to lease a 60K+ vehicle for 600??? anyhow unless you work for MB do not expect it and be ready to pay for what you want.
lastly of course the benz is more, no one said they were cheap but you definitely get what you pay for. an acure is cheaper cuz it is an acura....
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You might want to check again during the winter clearance sale they are having in January. Let's face facts though, getting a car that lists for 60k+msrp to cost the same as an acura rl for 48k is a stretch. I have seen a few e500's for 8-10 k off sticker recently, and that's bound to get you close to 600-650.
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I don't think you would be happy going to a C class. I think if you look around you can find a new 05 E Class that the dealers will be willing to work with you on a price.
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600 isnt that much. its basically a 60k car, if you have any decent amount of options. I have never owned a car that wasnt fully loaded - a stripped E320 and a loaded E500 are completely different cars. I wouldnt even consider a stripped E320. If you are worried about the money, you might want a different car that gives you more, like lexus. A value, the MB is not. Why would you get another one if you are burnt out on it??
Stock E-classes are like Camrys and new Bimmers are coyote ugly. You will wake up one morning and be like omg what did I just buy..
If you want a good car, and are on a tighter budget, go buy a 2002 BMW 540i Sport. You could own it for less than 600 a month and get extended warranty to 100k. Beautiful well made car.
Stock E-classes are like Camrys and new Bimmers are coyote ugly. You will wake up one morning and be like omg what did I just buy..
If you want a good car, and are on a tighter budget, go buy a 2002 BMW 540i Sport. You could own it for less than 600 a month and get extended warranty to 100k. Beautiful well made car.
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Where did you come up with the lease rate for the new cars you put together? On mbusa.com? If so, talk to a dealer. They are likely to give you a better deal than the one on the internet. Tell them that what you are looking for and what you are willing to pay, and also drop a hint that you are looking at other brands as well. In my local paper I have seen E350s advertised for 500 dollars a month. 600 should be possible with a few options.
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Originally Posted by Frank Wiesmann
Where did you come up with the lease rate for the new cars you put together? On mbusa.com? If so, talk to a dealer. They are likely to give you a better deal than the one on the internet. Tell them that what you are looking for and what you are willing to pay, and also drop a hint that you are looking at other brands as well. In my local paper I have seen E350s advertised for 500 dollars a month. 600 should be possible with a few options.
In contrast, I drove an Acura RL yesterday. Nice car. For $50K it has pretty much every gadget in the world, including all-wheel drive and adaptive cruise. A similarly equipped E would be 60-65K.
I am planning on telling my dealer that I'm considering other models. But, this is a mathematics problem. They aren't going to sell me a fully loaded E with 4-matic, NAV, etc. for 50K.
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The best way for you to decide is to drive all the cars you are truly interested in, and then determine what attributes are most important to you in a car, and which car delivers those attributes in the combination you want. If you want extensive gadgetry at a lower price, then buy Japanese. If you want the cache and solid ride of a Mercedes, then you will have to pay more, or get a lesser model (C or sripped E). It's a trade-off decision. I always say, pony-up the extra dollars to get what you really want, or you will kick yourself in the *** everytime you look at the one you bought instead, especially when you see the one you really wanted.
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The question is how much are you paying for the car?
Monthly payment is not a gauge how good of a deal you get from the dealer. Your deal is based on plus or minus from the dealer's invoice, not the sticker price or discount from the sticker price. Shop around and use the internet to help you to get a good deal 
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$600 a month means nothing. You have to compare apples to apples. That is, you have to figure out what it's going to cost you in total. $600 a month could be a great deal, or it could be an awful deal. Is it a lease for 36 months, or 72 months? Does the deal include any cap cost reduction? What are the mile limitations?
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If the E gets a redesign for MY 07 with production starting in July of 06; then shortly before it begins MB should have amazing lease deals on the current W211's...If you can wait until then and that is in fact when the body stlye change occurs, it would be perfect tming for you.
Can anyone verify when the change will occur?
Can anyone verify when the change will occur?
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Originally Posted by RJC
If the E gets a redesign for MY 07 with production starting in July of 06; then shortly before it begins MB should have amazing lease deals on the current W211's...If you can wait until then and that is in fact when the body stlye change occurs, it would be perfect tming for you.
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Originally Posted by revstriker
I've yet to see an "amazing" lease deal offered by Mercedes Benz. Most of the deals through them require significant cap cost reduction payments which, IMO, are anything but amazing.
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For 600 a month, your not going to get a decent E class..maybe a stripped dow 320 but why bother.
If you want to stay in that price range with little down, look at an Acura or Infinity..or even Lexus...You will get more for your money. I have driven C class cars as loaners, and they are **** in my opinion. Like one guy said, a loaded up E 500 and a stripped down 320 are TOTALLY different machines. The only similarity is that they look similar from the outside.
If you want to stay in that price range with little down, look at an Acura or Infinity..or even Lexus...You will get more for your money. I have driven C class cars as loaners, and they are **** in my opinion. Like one guy said, a loaded up E 500 and a stripped down 320 are TOTALLY different machines. The only similarity is that they look similar from the outside.
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Originally Posted by Silvergt02
For 600 a month, your not going to get a decent E class..maybe a stripped dow 320 but why bother.
If you want to stay in that price range with little down, look at an Acura or Infinity..or even Lexus...You will get more for your money. I have driven C class cars as loaners, and they are **** in my opinion. Like one guy said, a loaded up E 500 and a stripped down 320 are TOTALLY different machines. The only similarity is that they look similar from the outside.
If you want to stay in that price range with little down, look at an Acura or Infinity..or even Lexus...You will get more for your money. I have driven C class cars as loaners, and they are **** in my opinion. Like one guy said, a loaded up E 500 and a stripped down 320 are TOTALLY different machines. The only similarity is that they look similar from the outside.
Benz really needs to offer a 50K E350 model with NAV, heated seats, and xenons. Then they would be a decent buy over Acura and Lexus.
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Originally Posted by aplato
Benz really needs to offer a 50K E350 model with NAV, heated seats, and xenons. Then they would be a decent buy over Acura and Lexus.
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IF you get the Acura RL( which is a nice car, but not a Benz), you must turn in your forum credentials and promise NEVER to look longingly at a new Benz and wish you had purchased it. EVERY new car, even a Japanese one, will ride pretty good for awhile, but when you look in your rear view mirror, and see a Benz, you will know that you should pull over and let it pass.
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Aw c'mon... He'll enjoy the Acura, And when MB gets its act together he'll check it out again. Ya gotta love what you drive, or you're driving it for the wrong reason.
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I don't think MB is pricing themselves out of the market, they are pricing themselves into an "exclusive" market. The MB star is probably one of the most recognized emblems on an automobile. I think their pricing keeps the integrity of their trade brand.
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Its a double edge sword. Yes it makes that brand exclusive, but they need to sell more and more cars in an increasingly more crowded arena of luxury cars from all over the world to stay # 1.
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There are E and CLK special incentives from MB through the end of the month...ask your dealer about them as some of the guy's on this CLKW209 forum got some very attractive leases...ie; a $61,000.00 CLK500 for $690 a month incl'd tax for 39 mo's and 12k per year w/no money or very little down...that's a very, very strong deal. These leases require tier 1 credit and you need to negotiate the money factor with the dealer, the CLK 500 had a 61% residual and a 0.00135 M/F. Another was a 350 w/premium,navi and lighting, leased with the same terms (39mos & 12k) for $610 per month. The CLK500 was an incredible deal as its almost $225 less than my lease. Both car were 2006's. I spoke with one of the dealers and he informed me the E's are included in the special, but again it ends this month.
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edit/update I just got off the phone with the Sales MGR for one of the dealer's, the special ended Jan 6th which is also confirmed by the person that bought the 500. Like anything in life timing is so,so important!
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I'm sure you can do an E350 properly equipped for around $600/month because that's what I'm paying right now.
2006 E350
Sports Package
Premium Package
Xenons
Wood Steering Wheel
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Paying $605/month including Tax
2006 E350
Sports Package
Premium Package
Xenons
Wood Steering Wheel
Parktronic
39month lease
3k drive off
Paying $605/month including Tax
