Pano roof question
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Pano roof question
Whats up everybody, been browsing this forum for ages but its my first post, i have to thank everyone for the invaluable advice that this forum has provided, my pops wanted an e-class so we wanted to put an order for a 320, as it turns out us markets are taking up all the 320s and 500s so our dealer told us to forget about it if we wanted anytime soon, ditto the 240 with the australian markets, our dealer suggested a new factory that would be producing e55s, 200 kompressors and 320CDIs, so in the end we settled for the 200K which is a shame, the good news is we have alot more to spend on options, we had ordered the amg kit and rims intially but were told they were not available for the 200, so now with about 5k of extra dough were considering other options i am absolutley in love with the pano roof especially the two tone effect it gives with the body color (weve orderd tealite blue on blue leather) , but my pops dosent care much for sunroofs as its too sunny here for anyone to give a dam, so anyways im tryin to convince my pops and hes worried some kid with a grudge might break the whole roof with a pebble or somethin........ive searched all the posts and mbusa and have found nothing on the material or strenght of this pano roof, can somebody please help as weve already been given a prod/delivery date but i want to try and make last minute changes
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I am not familiar with the 200K...what is available for options?
I agree that you have to take what is available if your first choices are just not going to be there.
Will you be using the car mostly in city or out on the highways?
I agree that you have to take what is available if your first choices are just not going to be there.
Will you be using the car mostly in city or out on the highways?
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if someone can break your pano/moon roof, he can break your windows, too.
pano roof uses the same material as the moon roof which is strong enough to protect you when the car rolls over. if someone try to break it, i think he should save time to break your windows first.
but your father is right -- it is too sunny there, why do you buy an option that you never use. remember, it is your father paying for the car so he is always right.
but your father is right -- it is too sunny there, why do you buy an option that you never use. remember, it is your father paying for the car so he is always right.
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Originally posted by etenn
I am not familiar with the 200K...what is available for options?
I agree that you have to take what is available if your first choices are just not going to be there.
Will you be using the car mostly in city or out on the highways?
I am not familiar with the 200K...what is available for options?
I agree that you have to take what is available if your first choices are just not going to be there.
Will you be using the car mostly in city or out on the highways?
by 200k i was referring to the 200 kompressor, a supercharged intially 2 litre engine that for 2003 has been reduced to 1.8 making it the smallest engine available for the w211 however they reduced displacement to increase fuel economy and via variable valve timing and other gizmos have managed to keep the power output the same i think, its about as powerful as a 240 but obviously not as torquey, basically all the options except for the amg kit are available weve ordered leather,bixenon,keylessgo,adaptive suspension,,5 speed auto,adaptive seats,nokia phone,four zone climate amogst other stuff i cant remeber
Otto,
thanks for the info dude, your right it is my fathers choice, but god dam that black roof on blue would just look soooooo good wouldnt it?
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I recently read a review of an E class which had the pano roof and the magazine reviews said that there was extra wind noise b,coz of the pano roof. Is this true that pano roof brings in more wind noise ???? (plz say no) 
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Originally posted by Mellow
...Otto,
thanks for the info dude, your right it is my fathers choice, but god dam that black roof on blue would just look soooooo good wouldnt it?
...Otto,
thanks for the info dude, your right it is my fathers choice, but god dam that black roof on blue would just look soooooo good wouldnt it?
I thought they'd like hang you or something for saying that in Kuwait.
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there was extra wind noise b,coz of the pano roof
I have not heard any extra wind noise from my pano roof -- compare with the moonroof in my bimmer. (truth is, I only open it around 5 days in a year, the rest of 360 days, it is closed.)
the only thing that I don't like the pano roof is -- you either open or close sunblind for both front and back seats passengers. but my 3 years old son says "dada, looks! airplane!" very often while I drive car. (Mellow, I think this is a good reason that you could ask your father for ordering a pano roof.)
the only thing that I don't like the pano roof is -- you either open or close sunblind for both front and back seats passengers. but my 3 years old son says "dada, looks! airplane!" very often while I drive car. (Mellow, I think this is a good reason that you could ask your father for ordering a pano roof.)
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Mellow, What new factory is building those 200K's? I thought all E's are coming out of the same factory.. Don't tell me that they'll have your car built in the new egypt factory?? - Tealite blu with Blue leather mm... you are much braver than me, I was gonna order that combo first but then backed out cause I didn't know how the blue was - take a look here for my pics https://mbworld.org/forums/showthrea...threadid=22290 I ended up ordering tea lite blu with charcoal.. As for pano-roof - with the humidity / heat and sun thats in Kuwait, you are better off not ordring it (although you can cover it up in the sun) then open it up at night (the shade that is) but if you open the actual roof then you are faced with humidity!! so I'd say put it off and just get a regular sunroof. Maybe you could get blue Nappa leather instead of regular leather... I got that and its great. Will be interested to see pics of your car when its done.. I drove the old CLK 200K and it was powerful but unfortunately very noisy (4-cyl) the 240 is much much smoother. If you care about smoothness that is, it is powerful though...
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Muhri,
Thanx for the advice dude, ill let you know that your tealite blue e-class pics were in the center of our desicion process believe it or not, i used the pics of your car to convey the true look of the tealite blue to my parents since the pics on the mbusa site look nothing like any color on the brochure, plus i love the way you hooked it up with the amg package again i used your pics to explain to my pops the value of 18 inch rims and why he needed a three thousand dollar aero package! , so besides the fact the 200k was noisy is it powerful enough, i mean this is goin to be a city driver, no long distances here, as for the noise i am expecting that, you can only ask so much of a four banger
Otto again thanks for the personal insight
Both your opinions verify my iniatial thought on this option , its of no use pratically to us , but its the image im after , i guess
Eldiablo.......what are you talking about?
Thanx again all
Thanx for the advice dude, ill let you know that your tealite blue e-class pics were in the center of our desicion process believe it or not, i used the pics of your car to convey the true look of the tealite blue to my parents since the pics on the mbusa site look nothing like any color on the brochure, plus i love the way you hooked it up with the amg package again i used your pics to explain to my pops the value of 18 inch rims and why he needed a three thousand dollar aero package! , so besides the fact the 200k was noisy is it powerful enough, i mean this is goin to be a city driver, no long distances here, as for the noise i am expecting that, you can only ask so much of a four banger
Otto again thanks for the personal insight
Both your opinions verify my iniatial thought on this option , its of no use pratically to us , but its the image im after , i guess
Eldiablo.......what are you talking about?
Thanx again all
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Hey muhri,
i forgot to mention about the interior colors, well what happened is we iniatally ordered tealite blue with a biege interior which is marked in the mb order form as 'not recomended' , but we saw one in the dealership here and it looks pretty cool, then we changed our mind since it looked like it would be a ***** to clean, obviously tealite blue on charcoal rocks, but in a country where you regularly have temperatures in the 45 degree range, buying a black car is questionable, a black interior on the other hand is suicide,...we used to have a 2002 s-class (totalled) that was black on grey, it was a ***** when you parked it in the sun.
i havent seen what the blue interior looks like in person yet there was a post some time back that referred to the latest road and track , checked it out, cant say im tooooo impressed, buts its alright, as for the nappa were better off with hard wearing leather here
i forgot to mention about the interior colors, well what happened is we iniatally ordered tealite blue with a biege interior which is marked in the mb order form as 'not recomended' , but we saw one in the dealership here and it looks pretty cool, then we changed our mind since it looked like it would be a ***** to clean, obviously tealite blue on charcoal rocks, but in a country where you regularly have temperatures in the 45 degree range, buying a black car is questionable, a black interior on the other hand is suicide,...we used to have a 2002 s-class (totalled) that was black on grey, it was a ***** when you parked it in the sun.
i havent seen what the blue interior looks like in person yet there was a post some time back that referred to the latest road and track , checked it out, cant say im tooooo impressed, buts its alright, as for the nappa were better off with hard wearing leather here
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Mellow, I hope the blue leather stands up to your expectations but from my experience blue and black are the same in hot weather (My golf has blue/black combo) and the blue is in the center and it s just as hot.. BTW, AMG does offer the kit for the 200K (I read your post more carefully now) the only thing you won't get is the Exhaust cause its only for V6 and V8 models. I'm still interested to know which factory will build your 200K (I hope its not egypt)
PS glad you like the car and it made it possible for you to convince your folks about your new car
PS glad you like the car and it made it possible for you to convince your folks about your new car
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I love my pano roof too and so do my children in the back seat. They think it is so cool that they too can look up and see sky above them. The electric cover that comes with the pano roof works great except I agree with a previous post that it would be nice to control the front and rear cover separately. Also there is no difference in wind noise from the regular sun roof that my ears can detect anyway. I highly recommend this option. Few cars on the road have it and I get many positive comments on it. Living where you live the weather may be a factor. Are there many cars there with sunroofs? Use that as your guide. As far as the strength of the roof I would not be concerned about that either. Good luck.
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IF you get the Pano roof also get the sun powered cooling
If I recall correctly with the Pano roof you can also specify sun powered cooling fans which operate by solar power to keep the interior of the car cool even when parked and the engine is off. This feature is so "cool" (pun intended) that it is standard on the Maybach. Living in Kuwait I would think it is a must have option for you if you go with the Pano roof.
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Originally posted by muhri2
Mellow, I hope the blue leather stands up to your expectations but from my experience blue and black are the same in hot weather (My golf has blue/black combo) and the blue is in the center and it s just as hot.. BTW, AMG does offer the kit for the 200K (I read your post more carefully now) the only thing you won't get is the Exhaust cause its only for V6 and V8 models. I'm still interested to know which factory will build your 200K (I hope its not egypt)
PS glad you like the car and it made it possible for you to convince your folks about your new car
Mellow, I hope the blue leather stands up to your expectations but from my experience blue and black are the same in hot weather (My golf has blue/black combo) and the blue is in the center and it s just as hot.. BTW, AMG does offer the kit for the 200K (I read your post more carefully now) the only thing you won't get is the Exhaust cause its only for V6 and V8 models. I'm still interested to know which factory will build your 200K (I hope its not egypt)
PS glad you like the car and it made it possible for you to convince your folks about your new car
Sorry for the late reply dude ive looking through all the papers for ages and finally i found the copy my dealer gave me, as it turns out its not much use sine there is no factory stated, but according to him a new factory that was to start in november was providing these three cars and ordering one of them in advance would gurantee early delivery rather than trying to compete with the high load on international orders on the engines already available , those bieng the 240,320 and 500, as you can see from the pic the factory builds the e55 as well, or at least thats what he said, i wouldnt worry about mercedes entrusting such a car to egypt, and i know about the factory there muhri, the egyptians wouldnt know a thing about quality control if it slapped them on the face and said 'im quality control', so no way we would get something out of there, that factory deals mainly with the local market as apparently egypt is one of mercedes benzs largest international markets
As for the AMG kit, you gotta have the dual chrome tips, i was never really impressed much with the details on the front bumper or the side skirts, without the exhaust IMO its a waste of money id rather spend 3k on rims! but thanks for the advice anywways!
ive attached the image of the paper that was faxed in to the dealer from mercedes, i dont have a scanner so i took a pic with my finpix, sorry about the focus!
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Re: IF you get the Pano roof also get the sun powered cooling
Originally posted by northbenz
If I recall correctly with the Pano roof you can also specify sun powered cooling fans which operate by solar power to keep the interior of the car cool even when parked and the engine is off. This feature is so "cool" (pun intended) that it is standard on the Maybach. Living in Kuwait I would think it is a must have option for you if you go with the Pano roof.
If I recall correctly with the Pano roof you can also specify sun powered cooling fans which operate by solar power to keep the interior of the car cool even when parked and the engine is off. This feature is so "cool" (pun intended) that it is standard on the Maybach. Living in Kuwait I would think it is a must have option for you if you go with the Pano roof.
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Originally posted by Mellow
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Eldiablo.......what are you talking about?
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Thanx again all
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Eldiablo.......what are you talking about?
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Thanx again all
Originally posted by Mellow
Otto,
thanks for the info dude, your right it is my fathers choice, but god dam that black roof on blue would just look soooooo good wouldnt it?
Otto,
thanks for the info dude, your right it is my fathers choice, but god dam that black roof on blue would just look soooooo good wouldnt it?
Anyhow, don't mean to take this off-topic, I was just surprised, and then curious.
No harm meant.
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Originally posted by ElDiabloJoe
I simply meant that I thought Kuwait was a very strictly religious society, and that your using the term god dam:
was kindof a forbidden thing.
Anyhow, don't mean to take this off-topic, I was just surprised, and then curious.
No harm meant.
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I simply meant that I thought Kuwait was a very strictly religious society, and that your using the term god dam:
was kindof a forbidden thing.
Anyhow, don't mean to take this off-topic, I was just surprised, and then curious.
No harm meant.
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As long as you dont get it from the factory thats in egypt - I'm fine with that hehe.. Well, if you must get the pano roof - like the guys advised do get the solar fans.. How long will it take for them to build your car at that new factory? Mine took 5 months because of the delay of the wood wheel (Oh yeah, do get a wood wheel) its superb.. I'm assuming you are ordering the avantgarde version.
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Originally posted by muhri2
As long as you dont get it from the factory thats in egypt - I'm fine with that hehe.. Well, if you must get the pano roof - like the guys advised do get the solar fans.. How long will it take for them to build your car at that new factory? Mine took 5 months because of the delay of the wood wheel (Oh yeah, do get a wood wheel) its superb.. I'm assuming you are ordering the avantgarde version.
As long as you dont get it from the factory thats in egypt - I'm fine with that hehe.. Well, if you must get the pano roof - like the guys advised do get the solar fans.. How long will it take for them to build your car at that new factory? Mine took 5 months because of the delay of the wood wheel (Oh yeah, do get a wood wheel) its superb.. I'm assuming you are ordering the avantgarde version.
